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To be totally put off when childminders have dogs?

141 replies

MickeyMouseShithouse · 15/01/2023 07:06

and have them around the children?
maybe it stems from my slight fear of dogs - or the number of reports of children being mauled in the news.. but I would never want to hand my baby over to someone who has their dog around children. We have dogs in the family, all lovely and have never hurt a fly but I still keep the majority of my attention on them if the dogs is nearby as you just never know what could happen (especially with grabby baby hands)

It makes me feel awful that I can’t trust but sending my children off to a house with dogs in that I don’t actually know give me a sicky feeling.

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Ericaequites · 15/01/2023 16:50

C.1915, my grandmother had severe eczema as a toddler. The doctor recommended her parents get a puppy to sleep with her and lick the affected areas. I was brought up with dogs and cats, and would rather choose a childminder with dogs and cats. I’d want my child’s early care to be in a family home, not an institution.

Kanaloa · 15/01/2023 17:05

Msstakes · 15/01/2023 12:07

Don't be silly that is not how research works. But there is research that shows that if you are fearful around dogs they pick up on it and are more likely to bite.

So no research that you can share then? How surprising.

Msstakes · 15/01/2023 17:53

Kanaloa · 15/01/2023 17:05

So no research that you can share then? How surprising.

There are two below from Liverpool university and the BMJ. More around if you can be arsed to look. Dogs and humans have co existed for millennia. They can literally smell fear, they relate this to danger and so can respond aggressively. It's not exactly ground breaking stuff
It's not the only cause of course but is a factor. Not sure why you would dispute this.

www.google.com/amp/s/news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/02/02/anxious-personality-may-linked-heightened-dog-bite-risk/amp/

jech.bmj.com/content/72/4/331

Kanaloa · 15/01/2023 18:35

Msstakes · 15/01/2023 17:53

There are two below from Liverpool university and the BMJ. More around if you can be arsed to look. Dogs and humans have co existed for millennia. They can literally smell fear, they relate this to danger and so can respond aggressively. It's not exactly ground breaking stuff
It's not the only cause of course but is a factor. Not sure why you would dispute this.

www.google.com/amp/s/news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/02/02/anxious-personality-may-linked-heightened-dog-bite-risk/amp/

jech.bmj.com/content/72/4/331

Being afraid doesn’t cause a dog to maul a child. Being left along with an aggressive dog leads to a child being mauled. Whether your child is afraid or not there is a very easy way to keep your infant child safe from dogs - just keep them away from being left near or alone with a dog!

Kanaloa · 15/01/2023 18:36

And the research you’ve shared isn’t even focused on how not being afraid will stop you from being bitten - it’s focused on how far more people are bitten than is reported.

Kanaloa · 15/01/2023 18:38

The one study that does briefly mention personality trait specifically says also that no firm conclusions can be made to link fear with being bitten. So the research you’ve cited proving that being afraid makes you more vulnerable to being bitten doesn’t exist.

Noodles1234 · 15/01/2023 18:50

I grew up with dogs and used to be fine, but I have become increasingly scared of dogs as I have grown into an adult having kids.
I would not either want my child in care with dogs around, kids can be hard work and dogs can just snap especially in the hot weather we have a lot more of now.

other than that I see more dogs now out on control, off leads and with no recall. What happened to that lady this week and all other events in the news doesn’t help.

Just this year I’ve had Rottweilers, Dobermans and other husky looking dogs run barking and jumping on me not on leads, it’s scary and I’m scared for the kids taking them to parks all the time teaching them to ask owners if their dog is friendly to have a stroke etc so not putting fear into them.

namechangetheworld · 15/01/2023 18:58

YANBU. I wouldn't trust any dog around my young child if I wasn't there with them. When we went to view a local preschool with DD2 the 'nursery dog' met us at the front door. I had no problem with the chickens and guinea pigs in the garden but a dog? Not a fucking chance.

roundaboutflo · 17/01/2023 09:57

I think it all depends on your style of parenting I understand why you wouldn’t but I’m afraid I’m completely the opposite I want to get DS into a farm nursery or a childminder with animals and I think both choices are fine it’s Your child your choice!

LoveBluey · 17/01/2023 10:03

I agree. For me it's about risk management and while the risk is small I'd rather not take it.
I would however quite like a childcare setting with small animals like rabbits or Guinea pigs

OoooohMatron · 17/01/2023 10:10

Purpleparsley · 15/01/2023 09:00

All dogs smell and all dog owners houses and their clothes smell. They don't know it though because they are used to it.

They don't actually. I say that as someone who doesn't have a dog.

cracktheshutters · 17/01/2023 12:14

100% agree YANBU, I would be very paranoid about leaving any child in a home with a dog, I wouldn’t want a toddler crawling around on a floor with the dirt and hair dogs cause. And yes, peoples houses with dogs do smell, I always know when I walk into a house where someone has a dog, definitely some more than others, but it’s always obvious enough. My MIL has a dog and the state of my child’s clothes from her floors in comparison to my parents (no dogs) is massive. I have to send in dark clothes and socks so I don’t have to bleach or throw anything away. Some people might be fine with that, it makes my skin crawl. We’re all different 🤷🏻‍♀️

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/01/2023 12:49

Ericaequites · 15/01/2023 16:50
C.1915, my grandmother had severe eczema as a toddler. The doctor recommended her parents get a puppy to sleep with her and lick the affected areas. I was brought up with dogs and cats, and would rather choose a childminder with dogs and cats. I’d want my child’s early care to be in a family home, not an institution“

🤣🤣🤣
Thankfully, medicine has moved on since 1915.

So a home without a dog isn’t a family home? Weird take.

GettingItOutThere · 17/01/2023 13:30

Oysterbabe · 15/01/2023 07:20

There is zero chance I'd leave my kids with a childminder with dogs. We don't even do playdates to households with dogs.

i agree with this but any playdates with housess/dogs i stay.

any sign of something like these awful xl bullys - we all dont go. no compromise

OdeToBarney · 17/01/2023 22:53

LoveBluey · 17/01/2023 10:03

I agree. For me it's about risk management and while the risk is small I'd rather not take it.
I would however quite like a childcare setting with small animals like rabbits or Guinea pigs

You say that, but a guinea pig shat on my leg and then bit me when I was about 7 and in still not over it nearly 30 years later 🤣

Happilyobtuse · 24/09/2023 23:00

I have always had a dog while growing up but I rejected a few childminders who had dogs at home as I just wasn’t comfortable with sending my DC there. My parents have two very large labradors but I have known them since they were pups and I am quite comfortable with my DC being left there. My parents dogs are well behaved and love children. They have been around my nieces since they were babies so they are well adjusted to children. But I still keep an eye on my kids when they are at my parents home as I think my kids might trouble the dogs, rather than the dogs biting my kids! 🤣 My parents are also always careful and vigilant and do keep an eye out. But an unknown dog is a strict No from me!

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