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What does this country have going for it? UK

258 replies

Haveagentlechristmas · 11/01/2023 16:18

Sorry if this is a goady thread, but with the awful weather we have had for weeks, the astronomical electricity prices, the uncaring and mismanaging government, an NHS that is absolutely crumbling despite those working in it giving their body and soul to the job, locked down borders where we can no longer as easily work, travel and live in 20 something countries, could people please help with positives of this country. I'm feeling like all my pride and patriotism has vanished.

OP posts:
NooNakedJacuzziness · 11/01/2023 17:00

No-one is currently bombing the shit out of us
Wotsits

Kinnorafron · 11/01/2023 17:01

ThighMistress · 11/01/2023 16:55

Christmas. It’s crap in other places.

Countryside. Try going for a country walk in Europe… it’s all privately-owned land where hunters abound. In the US there’s plenty of land, but official “trails” (footpaths) are very antiseptic. No stiles and hedges etc etc - and no pub at the end!

The footpaths are really an amazing resource - anywhere you go there will be a network of public footpaths you can explore. We take this for granted but as the quoted PP says, this is just not so in many places. I was a bit shocked at how limited public access was in places in New Zealand and the USA.

Peckhaminn · 11/01/2023 17:02

I think you don't truly know the issues of what other countries are going through until you live there. I think you'd be surprised. We are actually a very switched on level headed country to most. Look at America, 1 in 2 households have firearms! Fuck that

NorfolkinExile · 11/01/2023 17:02

Gun control and our police don’t carry guns as a matter of course
Democracy
NHS - free at the point of entry
A welfare state
Yorkshire tea
Marmite
Roast dinners
BBC - including the outstanding Happy Valley!
Cities that are diverse
Beautiful countryside
Temperate climate but with proper seasons
The rest of Europe just a hop and skip away
I don’t think it’s so bad for a small island

Peckhaminn · 11/01/2023 17:02

PermanentTemporary · 11/01/2023 16:44

I love living here.

My first date with DP was a walk on the Ridgway. We parked in the National Trust car park, said hello and walked up the hill to the White Horse of Uffington and Wayland's Smithy. We wandered on with the cloud shadows rolling over us and the occasional shower of rain freshening the grass. We stopped for a picnic just looking out at the huge valley views. We were on a path that has been travelled as long as humans have been here, with the chalk and the close cropped turf underfoot. I like to think our first kiss was on a ley line [old hippy emoticon] The other people on the hill minded their own business and pretended not to notice us snogging madly. They were mildly lumpy unglamorous types out for family walks with dogs. Every group was telling jokes and laughing (not about us).

Mild weather, seasons, collective organisations for the public good, the chalk hills, the green and pleasant. There's plenty wrong with the culture here but there's plenty right with it too.

This sounds like a paragraph out of a Jane Austin novel. How wonderful!

Dillydollydingdong · 11/01/2023 17:03

The weather (not so hot that half the countryside is destroyed by fire, as in France and Oz).
Not so cold that we are trapped indoors by snow drifts, or drowned/blown away by hurricanes and tidal waves (US).
English is our mother tongue
Our history
The NHS (even in it's current parlous state)

Kinnorafron · 11/01/2023 17:04

MrsTag · 11/01/2023 16:59

Once you have lived in corrupt countries where you can be scooped up by the police at any time on someone's whim then you realise how good it is to live in the UK.

Or when I worked in Kuwait with an Indian colleague. He wanted to regularise his driving licence so in order to do the right thing, he applied for a driving test. When he got into the car the Kuwaiti examiner asked if he was Indian, he said yes and the examiner said you've failed - no way you will get a licence. So he just had to drive illegally and take the risk. We mostly don't allow such blatant discrimination - although I know we are far from perfect.

QuentininQuarantino · 11/01/2023 17:04

Not RTFT sorry.

i left the UK 10 years ago for a better quality of life so I understand your complaints, BUT there’s no place like home for:

a) theatre/culture
b) humour/banter/comedy
c) days out (park farms, castles, arboretums…)
d) VARIETY of food
e) music scene
f) choice (of fashion, music, culture, food etc)

NorfolkinExile · 11/01/2023 17:04

I forgot to say - good maternity leave compared to a lot of countries!

RobinRobinMouse · 11/01/2023 17:04

I like the weather and the fact we have proper seasons, I feel safe for the most part, the countryside is stunning. We have access to food and water. Most people I meet are good people, bad ones are out there but that doesn't change whatever country you are in. We are mostly free to express ourselves. We have some lovely traditions her too. I've lived in 5 countries and the UK is still my favourite and the only place that is really home.

QuentininQuarantino · 11/01/2023 17:05

Oh gosh yes, christmas!! Apart from maybe Germany, uk has absolutely amazing Xmasses!

SimonandGarfunkel · 11/01/2023 17:05

Tea. With the exception of Ireland, I can't rely on getting a decent cup of tea in other countries (especially mainland European ones). I need at least 8 cups a day 😁

smileladiesplease · 11/01/2023 17:07

You have won life's lottery being born in the uk op. You should be very grateful.

arghtriffid · 11/01/2023 17:10

They were mildly lumpy unglamorous types out for family walks with dogs

Is that you H?

Keyansier · 11/01/2023 17:10

OvaryActions · 11/01/2023 16:44

Why are you so keen on getting this information? Is it so you can list all the negatives you can think of for whichever country she chooses by any chance?

OP is clearly feeling low about the world around her so this type of reply is really uncalled for, why not reply with something you find positive about the country instead of sticking the boot in?

I cant, because the OP hasn't listed it. But i can guarantee that whenever country the OP is posting from will have their own citizens listing their many complaints...

Shampern · 11/01/2023 17:12

As probably already said -
Scenery, history, culture.

Humour, perseverance, innovation.
Education, opportunities.
Friendliness, community, kindness.

MushMonster · 11/01/2023 17:13

Same as any other country in the world, its people. The hard working ones.

Beautiful sunsets, the weather is not that extreme (just wet), tea, food from all over the place, good cinema and actors/ actresses, good attitude to new challenges (UK has and is a pioneer in many fields- not politics currently, at least we say that they are pioneers as being the most useless possible).
The National Trust, I just love visiting sites! Free entry to Museums.

Blueblell · 11/01/2023 17:17

We have plenty to moan about which we all love doing.

MushMonster · 11/01/2023 17:18

I second Christmas and sense of humour (once you get it, though, be patient with new comers...)

Kinnorafron · 11/01/2023 17:19

Ironic/sarcastic/satirical humour - I think we may be the leaders of the English speaking world at that - although maybe Australia and New Zealand are challengers.

Zippedydoo123 · 11/01/2023 17:21

We speak English.

Custard cream biscuits.

GPTec1 · 11/01/2023 17:21

I live here and France.

For me its extended family & friends, everything else can be had or similar in mainland Europe, apart from pubs.

Excellent network of footpaths in France.

The NHS is not considered at all good from across the channel.

But ultimately, you have to be happy or you will just pack up your troubles with you.

gingerhamster · 11/01/2023 17:24

I agree it's a lot bit of a shit show at the moment but things I like are

The changing seasons (I love long summer evenings, autumn colours, the frost in winter and the spring flowers)
Our old traditional pubs
Music/live bands - IMO we have the best in the world
British comedy
The seaside fishing villages
The Lake District
The green ness of it, the changing countryside
The different counties with their different accents/traditions/food
Theatres

JoonT · 11/01/2023 17:25

I think the U.K. is one of the most interesting places in the world. It has a cultural history that few places can match. Oxford alone is more interesting than most countries.

When I walk around Cambridge, for example, it gives me such a buzz to think “this is the place where DNA was discovered! This is where the atom was first understood. This is the town in which Nabokov, Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin, Wittgenstein, Bertrand Russell, Wordsworth and Milton all studied.”

When I go to Bath, I love the cafes and Georgian architecture. I love to think of Jane Austen characters walking the streets. Liverpool means the Beatles, the Yorkshire moors mean the Brontes, Edinburgh means the Scottish Enlightenment, Oxford is the place Oscar Wilde and JRR Tolkien lived and studied. It is endless. This island feeds the imagination like nowhere on earth.

Yes, the weather is awful atm. But it changes. This time next week it could be snow and sunshine. And anything is better than the kind of suffocating heat a lot of countries endure. Sunshine and heat come with a price. They mean snakes and giant spiders and swarms of biting insects.

In spite of the pessimism, we’re a pretty well run country as well. Never underestimate how corrupt a lot of places truly are. My plumber, for example, came here from abroad. I won’t say where he’s from, but he once said to me “I feel ashamed when I go home. Everything is so corrupt that nothing ever gets done. Bridges aren’t built and roads aren’t repaired because the money is siphoned off by corrupt officials. It’s so widespread and so ingrained that no one bats an eyelid. Even the police will ask you for bribes.”

Forfrigz · 11/01/2023 17:25

Compared to most other countries it's very safe from violent crime. The legal system is pretty much decent although it isn't always practised properly. Other than that, the temperate climate means I'll be one-off the only places humans will be able to live in about 40 years once the world's climate is fully fucked.
Bur yeah that's about it, it's an especially depressing place to be during economic depressions.