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You aren't even my friend .....she knew I had been reported ...aibu ?

43 replies

railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:13

Il start by saying I have posted before -so if that bothers you please don't be nasty just scroll past (as i don't need any nasty comments today please )
I had a long-standing friendship over 15 years with a girl we will call her Lucy ... but I'm a pushover and was always the one she took the mick out of and always commented on what I was wearing or my hair etc...saying she didn't like something then next week she wore it.
I went out on a Christmas night out and lucy introduced me to her friend who was single (and a bit of a player )
We hit it off and began seeing each other (she hated it as normally it was just sex with them and no feelings )
Anyway lucy caused so much trouble telling lies about me and the person I was seeing believed every word (they had been friends 10 years)
Lucy orchestrated a massive falling out blocked me everywhere (knowing that the person I was seeing would ditch me too -as it was too uncomfortable)(she was happy to loose a long standing friend to stop us dating )
We spoke daily for over a year even after lucy tried to stop us speaking.
Dates /slept together /met the sister and daughter.
Then she backed away but still continued to speak daily for months (Constantly)
There was still an attraction there.
Anyway I found out my ex friend (lucy )reported me to social services saying I was stealing from my grandad who I cared for (lies -and thankfully I could prove was lies-but they follow all reports even anon )
The person I was seeing knew about it and believed lucy (hence backing away from me)
When I was trying to show her that my "friend" was lying she didn't believe me ,were convinced I was lying and wouldn't hear a a bad word about Lucy "
I finally proved what I was saying was true and I hadn't stole from my grandad.
I sent a message saying I thought you had feelings for me-how could you do this,how could you know about this and be a part of it-if anything I thought we were friends,we spoke every day.
They replied "i have told you ,I don't have any friends""you are just someone I met about 12 times with and spoke too "
I'm hurt still
How Could they believe my friend?
After sleeping with me ,speaking daily?
Why not give me let me give my side ? When you knew my friend had it in for me
Why did they say I wasn't even a friend?
I'm so confused

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railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:21

Sorry I know that's a really long post
So if anyone can respond I would be very grateful

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Mabelface · 06/01/2023 11:30

Two nasty people you need to block and leave behind. Neither of them are your friends. Fuck 'em.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 06/01/2023 11:32

You've been shat on by 2 people.

My guess is that Lucy has always been awful to you but you just haven't recognized it, or have held your tongue to keep the peace. Has she done similar to others in the time you've known her?

Does Lucy have eyes on your now ex? I don't know why they chose to believe her over you but please don't beat yourself up or try to demonstrate your innocence. Whatever you do will be misconstrued and taken as evidence that they were right about you. The best revenge is a life well lived. Have you got other friends in RL?

Bananarama21 · 06/01/2023 11:33

Clearly your friend liked this man and you went out with him knowing they had been intimate. She's obviously at fault her but I think you need to take aowm accountability. Decent friends don't go with men they been with and have feelings for!

ditalini · 06/01/2023 11:34

I don't know what's confusing. They (either of them) are not nice people. This is too much drama and not good for anyone.

Other people exist in the world who don't do this sort of thing. Don't waste any more headspace thinking about the people who do.

As for why someone would do this? Shits and giggles most likely.

railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:36

It wasn't a male -it was her female friend and Lucy isn't gay or bisexual they are just friends.

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railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:36

Do you think it was easier for her to believe lucy ? Than loose the friendship with Lucy and deal with all the drama ?

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railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:37

I don't understand if she believed Lucy why did she continue to speak to me?
That's what I'm confused with

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railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:38

@StrictlyAFemaleFemale yeah Lucy has always been a bit two faced but this was awful.
She literally went on a vendetta to turn her against me.
The obviously reported me and told her all the lies
It's been horrible

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MichelleScarn · 06/01/2023 11:39

railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:36

It wasn't a male -it was her female friend and Lucy isn't gay or bisexual they are just friends.

But you said earlier Lucy and this friend were having sex?
We hit it off and began seeing each other (she hated it as normally it was just sex with them and no feelings )

CraneBoysMysteries · 06/01/2023 11:40

I think Op meant sex with them as in 'other women' as she described this person as a player. I don't think she meant Lucy and this person

Bananarama21 · 06/01/2023 11:40

Male female doesn't matter, they clearly were intimate if they were having sex likely feelings developed on your friends part.

railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:41

@MichelleScarn ah sorry I meant normally with this lady she would just sleep around and it was just sex -this time she wanted to go on dates with me etc and Lucy thought she was just going to use me for sex
Sorry my bad explanation

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CraneBoysMysteries · 06/01/2023 11:41

Agree with others you probably need to stop giving over this in your head as I've read your previous posts before.

They are both clearly not very nice people and you deserve better than both of them.

Try not to lament on the whys and what fors and instead focus on having a great 2023 and perhaps branching out and making new friends

Emmamoo89 · 06/01/2023 11:43

Block them and forget about them. Not worth it. Hope you're okay x

railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:45

When I found out and messaged her asking why she blocked me on WhatsApp
Then said via messenger ...I only blocked you on WhatsApp ,I chose not to block you anywhere else -don't you think I would of if I had wanted too
It's been a massive head ...
It's not worth it tho is it -putting myself through the whys

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MrsGhastlyCrumb · 06/01/2023 11:45

You said yourself she is a 'player'. This would indicate that she doesn't really bother much with other people's feelings. Lucy sounds similar. I'd say she (your ex) is likely comfortable in Lucy's company and can't be bothered with who is right or wrong.

In short, as someone else said- fuck 'em. Maybe a good New Year's resolution for you would be to have a wee think about why you've tolerated these absolute goons up until now?

Theunamedcat · 06/01/2023 11:47

New year new phone number don't settle for poor friendships and piss poor lovers

CraneBoysMysteries · 06/01/2023 11:49

It's not worth it tho is it -putting myself through the whys

Keep telling yourself this when feeling down. I had a friend of 10+ years where we were like sisters completely drop me and rewrite the narrative of our friendship. I never saw her again and even 20 years later I sometimes dream of seeing her and confronting her about it all

But the truth is when someone lacks empathy or has mental health issues or generally isn't very nice, it's impossible to understand why they are hurtful as often there simply is no reason other than to be selfish or just for the hell of it!

CockSpadget · 06/01/2023 11:49

You’re better off with both of them out of your life. It’s a very toxic set up.

railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:52

@CockSpadget it is-it didn't have to be
Any normal friend would of said good things about me not lied to turn the person off me.
It didn't have to be this way -il never understand why Lucy was friends with me and hated me

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Beautiful3 · 06/01/2023 11:54

Honestly, they're both as bad as each other. I know how it feels to be accused of something terrible. You lose sleep and worry about what people are thinking of you. Luckily in my case it only took 3 weeks to be dropped, and logged as a malicious call. That person (my sister!) was dealt with and banned from contacting social services regarding myself. I have a supportive partner, so I can't imagine how terrible you felt when yours abandoned you too. Trust me, your ex is toxic and not worth thinking about. She should have belived you and back your back. Don't contact either of them again. You can do better, because you deserve better. You will meet someone else, who treats you better.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 06/01/2023 11:56

You've posted about these two multiple times.

Move on, OP.

JoyPeaceHealth · 06/01/2023 11:57

Wow, that is so incredibly hurtful. Such a betrayal.
No wonder you're still processing. I think I do remember you actually but it's a pet hate of mine, that ''have you posted this before?'' accusation, as though mumsnet had a fee paying licence based obligation to provide fresh material Confused

I know it is precious little consolation right now but the people she smeared you to, they are public servants, social workers. You don't know them luckily. They have closed your case and forgotten you.

I think it is cognitive dissonance to minimise your relationship to ''just somebody I met 12 times'' in order to alleviate any feelings of guilt or shame. So in that regard, minimising your relationship is predictable. It's re-writing history though. Choosing to meet somebody and arranging to meet up 12 times is a relationship. One that ended, but still a relationship.

I think you need to heal the wound of betrayal. Apparently the basis of that healing work is to stand really really firmly in your own interpretation of events while practicing self - compassion.

Journal your thoughts but don't send it anywhere. Then work on self-compassion (there is a really good work book full of exercises by Kirsten Neff phd and Chris Germer phd) so work on that, do the exercises

I have done this journalling exercise over the last three years and I have boiled it down from about 15 pages of what she did what I said how she reacted et cetera et cetera down to ''it is a battle of two narratives'' but I had the support of a good therapist

You're obviously hurting a lot and that is understandable but posting on mumsnet is all venting and no direction. you can heal but you need to invest in to your future by going to a therapist. I really recommend the practice of self-compassion while you stand firmly in your own interpretation of what happened.

You don't need other people to believe your interpretation. YOU KNOW. Remember? But it's the wound that is making you yearn for people to understand what happened.

But people will believe what they hear, what they want to believe, what it suits them to believe.

I do understand the feelings of injustice that come with that. My own mother has done a prince harry on me! smearing me to all the neighbours and relatives. I have decided not to give oxygen to that smear campaign.

So I'm not typing this with no understanding of how much a betrayal hurts.
I had therapy which really helped. I see it now as a battle of two narratives. My mother's is that I'm crazy and mine is that she will not acknowledge that she has been hurtful.

When all is said and done, sometimes communication can merge the two narratives slightly but that isn't going to happen in your case (nor mine Sad but keep solid in yourself. You are the strong person in your own corner now.

But stay in your integrity. do not do anything that would give anybody anymore ''material''. Unfollow any of these eejits on facebook, instagram, twitter.
Sto trying to convince people of the truth. It never works! IN the case of my mother smearing me to aunts and uncles (who tell the cousins) I can see that it suits them to believe that because they can then congratulate themselves on their healthier relationships with their adult children. So I will just let them think what they think. None of them are going to be happy to wonder if there is dysfunction in a family. Sometimes you just have to give up and walk away but with strength. You sound like you've spiralled down and you need help getting back up so please treat yourself to therapy.
It's not such a big deal. I've done it twice.

railforsakeoe · 06/01/2023 11:57

I'm trying to move on
I struggle to get my head around how nasty they treated me
I expected it from Lucy but can't believe someone I was intimate with and grew close too could do this to me or at least know about it .

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