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Dd wants to do a levels in geography, politics, English lit

188 replies

Worriedagainmum · 05/01/2023 14:05

She has no real idea what she wants to do with these land it worries me she has no plan

OP posts:
pa1ace · 05/01/2023 14:54

"The likelihood is the jobs she may do may not even exist yet."

Absolutely this!

MrPickles73 · 05/01/2023 14:54

I would get her to do some work experience in different environments to see what she enjoys including a primary school. This might help to guide her choices.

Marigoldandivy · 05/01/2023 14:57

Good choices. There are many career options, from public administration to education or heritage/museums. The important things are good grades, and good choice of university.

TheMarzipanDildo · 05/01/2023 14:57

barneshome · 05/01/2023 14:12

All very interesting.
But if she does humanities at uni it is a total waste of time - not respected by employers and are soft

Bollocks

ToWhitToWhoo · 05/01/2023 14:59

barneshome · 05/01/2023 14:12

All very interesting.
But if she does humanities at uni it is a total waste of time - not respected by employers and are soft

Not true at all. If you get a good degree in a humanities subject, employers will respect it! And I wouldn't call most such degrees soft- they are hard work if studied seriously.

Greatly · 05/01/2023 15:00

She could do Law with those A levels.

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/01/2023 15:01

barneshome · 05/01/2023 14:12

All very interesting.
But if she does humanities at uni it is a total waste of time - not respected by employers and are soft

Utter nonsense. You quite clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
magic circle law,finance,NHS,property companies all recruit graduates with arts/humanities. Firms attend milk rounds at university to recruit graduates
conversion courses into surveying, IT,Law, land economics
i have multiple friends who all did arts degrees eg philosophy, English literature, Geography and they have proceeded to well paid jobs in law,property, business and finances

ToWhitToWhoo · 05/01/2023 15:02

SleeplessInEngland · 05/01/2023 14:43

Easy there rishi sunak.

Actually, despite his promotion of maths. Rishi Sunak's own degree is in PPE, which is considered as a humanities degree.

BabyOnBoard90 · 05/01/2023 15:04

They're quite generalist subjects, so it's good she chooses that as opposed to something very specific

SS1983 · 05/01/2023 15:06

This is great, i did similar and went to a red brick uni, and onto a finance grad scheme. History is always looked very favourably upon too

You don't have to do subjects related to your choice of career, it just helps if they are good choices / core subjects. This is only the case if you are considering something like Medicine, Dentistry , Optometry , Actuary, where you need the sciences / Maths

She sounds great, don't worry :)

FeedMeSantiago · 05/01/2023 15:08

I did similar A levels (geography, religious studies and English lit) and am now a Civil Servant.

Lots of my friends did humanities subjects Uni and have gone in to the Civil Service, teaching, academia, banking and financial services, law, the music industry and the heritage and museums sector.

Those who did sciences have gone into similar careers, especially banking and the Civil Service, plus nursing and medicine.

She should choose subjects she's interested in and will do well at. I had no firm idea of what I wanted to do when I chose my AS and A levels but knew where my strengths lay and chose accordingly.

lieselotte · 05/01/2023 15:11

barneshome · 05/01/2023 14:12

All very interesting.
But if she does humanities at uni it is a total waste of time - not respected by employers and are soft

What a load of nonsense.

In any event geography isn't a humanity, it's a social science and I'd argue that along with data science it is the most useful degree course out there, given the state we're in with climate change!

The combination sounds excellent OP - English lit is a good essay subject and teaches analysis, geography I've mentioned and if more people studied politics we might not be in the mess we're in.

SS1983 · 05/01/2023 15:12

lieselotte · 05/01/2023 15:11

What a load of nonsense.

In any event geography isn't a humanity, it's a social science and I'd argue that along with data science it is the most useful degree course out there, given the state we're in with climate change!

The combination sounds excellent OP - English lit is a good essay subject and teaches analysis, geography I've mentioned and if more people studied politics we might not be in the mess we're in.

Agree completely with this

MarisPiper92 · 05/01/2023 15:12

No issue with the subjects, but how academic is she? Regardless of the subject, a good degree (First/2:1 ideally) from a well-respected university can open a lot of career doors: teaching, grad schemes in a wide range of industries, accountancy, law, marketing, finance, tech, etc. Some more lucrative than others, but all with the potential for stable careers.

I'd only worry if she isn't very academic. You're correct that university is very expensive, and if you think she'd struggle to get in/do well then she may be better off looking at other options. But from what you've said it sounds like she'll be fine.

SnowlayRoundabout · 05/01/2023 15:15

Worriedagainmum · 05/01/2023 14:21

I suppose I just worry about the debt she will get into, how much do you have to earn before you start paying it back ?
we will support he as much as possible but we couldn’t afford to bank roll it

At this stage you don't even know if she's going to go to university. But, if she is, she'll get into the same level of debt whatever type of degree she takes - unless, of course, it's something like medicine or architecture which will raise the debt level even higher.

ilovesushi · 05/01/2023 15:16

They sound like a great mix of subjects and leave lots of options open for university if that's the route she wants to take.

pag2020 · 05/01/2023 15:17

OP I did Geography, English Lit, Welsh and Psychology A Levels. My Uni degree was Media Studies and I ended up being an Accountant 😅 I feel at that age, most teenagers don't know what they want to do.

Caplin · 05/01/2023 15:18

barneshome · 05/01/2023 14:12

All very interesting.
But if she does humanities at uni it is a total waste of time - not respected by employers and are soft

What a load of rubbish! I say that as an employer.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/01/2023 15:19

Stop putting so much pressure on her.

She doesn't have to 'know' right now what career she wants.

I did Geography, English lit and Psychology A levels, did a Journalism degree and side-stepped into advertising.

My brother started a Music degree, then changed to German and ended up graduating in History.

She will work it out.

Thepeopleversuswork · 05/01/2023 15:20

barneshome · 05/01/2023 14:12

All very interesting.
But if she does humanities at uni it is a total waste of time - not respected by employers and are soft

This is total balls. All perfectly respectable subjects and unless she wanted to do something very specific and highly competitive (medicine, economics, engineering) it would be fine. Basically as humanities go these are good strong subjects.

Also as others have said she doesn't need to know at 16 what she wants for a career. It would be great if she did but a good selection of strong humanities A levels in subjects that interest her is a pretty good grounding.

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/01/2023 15:20

Soft degree? Oxford PPE degree is a dominant degree in British politics with multiple PM inc Sunak and politicians holding PPE

I did a vocational degree and post grad (8 years in total studying) and humanities graduates I am friends earn more than me

StrawberryWater · 05/01/2023 15:21

It’s a good mix.

I wish I’d done more of a mix at A-Levels. Instead I was pressured into English Language, English Literature and Sociology. I got good grades but I’ve always felt they limited me in what I could do going forward.

Starlightstarbright1 · 05/01/2023 15:21

My ds is applying for criminology, geography and media..

I have just said just think what you would enjoy..

ThalhavaraGoter · 05/01/2023 15:24

I have linked a salary calculator here where you can play around with salary figures to see what she would pay per month. Just tick the "Repayment plan 2" under student loan red tab and it will show you exactly what she would pay.

So on £35k you pay £57 a month toward the student loan but you come home with £2,261.54 not taking into account any pension contribution. It is an investment in her future and she basically just pays a bit more tax.

www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php

The subjects look good. Just think that this is about grades at the end of the day, she does well then a lot of doors are open to her for uni. Those subjects leave it wide open for her. Just pull up any university and look at all the courses they offer.

Leftbutcameback · 05/01/2023 15:24

I would always say do ones you enjoy, and where the teaching is good. I did two a-levels which I hadn’t done at GCSE (sociology and economics) and it was great learning something brand new, which I assume is the case for politics. Loved my geography a-level too and use it in my current job!