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AIBU to feel so hurt by my mum?

40 replies

Evawales · 04/01/2023 18:33

It's taken a lot to start this thread because I already feel guilty for talking badly about my mum. 😔

I am in my early 30s and my mum is in her 70s. She's always behaved weirdly towards me for as long as I can remember. Growing up, I didn't have my own bedroom until I was 10 (not a space issue - there was bedroom I could have had). Until then, my mum made me sleep in her bed, I didn't have a bedtime and went to bed with her after 10pm so I was always late for primary school. When I went to high school, she would not let me walk to the school bus by myself, even at 16 she insisted she came with me. I was bullied an awful lot through high school, I couldn't keep friendships and my mum would never allow to do normal teenage stuff like shopping or cinema with friends so people would stop inviting me. I used to pretend to be ill a lot to stay home and never put in a full week at school during year 10 or 11 and as a result did really badly at my GCSEs. My mum never once asked me what was making me not want to go to school, she never asked if I was ok or if something was happening that was upsetting me.

She never gave me the growing up talk and I had to shoplift pads and hide the dirty ones in my bag until I could throw them in the school bin.

She used to babysit my older brothers' children while he went out drinking and, on several occasions, ended up walking 2 miles home in the early hours of the morning, when I was around 8-12. I remember being very scared we were going to be attacked and on one occasion I got bitten by a dog.

My teenage years were very lonely, I spent a lot of time in my room with music and books. We never went anywhere, and I rarely interacted with other people outside school. When I was 14, I tried to take my own life alone in my room. It failed and I never told anyone. I also self-harmed.

I have never met my dad, she won't tell me who he is, but she did have an affair with my uncle (her sister's husband) around the time she became pregnant with me, so I do wonder if it's him.

So fast forward to now, our relationship is very difficult. I am seeking a private ADHD diagnosis and asked her if she had any old school reports I could look at or if she would be willing to write a short paragraph about some of the difficulties I had. She went mental at me. She told me she would not being talking to anyone about our private business, no less doctors (she was a weird thing around doctors and police officers), that I was ridiculous and was accusing her of bad parenting. She said no child of hers has "something like that" and eventually told me that I should be grateful I'm even here because my older brother, sister and grandparents all told didn't want me and told her have an abortion. She said, "you're only here because of me."

Today I took my children to visit her, and she made a comment about someone asking her what her children all did for a living. She would only have a vague idea about me (I am doing an Access to HE course and have applied to uni for September), she literally never asks how I am or what I have been up to. I pointed out she's never really asked and she snapped and said why should she. She insisted she will never ask how I am or what I'm up to because it's my place to tell her and she shouldn't have to ask.

When my car broke down last year and was going to be an expensive fix, I was a bit upset and had a teary eye when I was talking about it. She turned to my niece and said "I don't understand why people squawk about their cars breaking down."

On my 30th birthday and the only family meal we've ever had, she complained non-stop and said "I don't even know why I come to these places, I can't stand them."

I feel so hurt by all of this. Many times in my life I could have benefited from someone asking me if I was ok and did I need support (hence why I'm trying to get my quals and getting my diagnosis only now at 33...) and think my mum should have been the one to do this. I have felt so alone for so long, I have a long history and depression, was in an abusive relationship, I had a breakdown in 2021 and I'm only now in a place where I'm trying to look forward to the future.

I've tried to raise with her how I feel but she either pretends she does remember, claims she has dementia (she doesn't), says I have false memories and today told me that I make her feel like a waste of space. That's never been my intention. I just want to feel like my mum is a mum, one that asks me what's going on in my life, one that cares, encourages me and is proud of me. I've got no other family other than my 2 children. One that acknowledges and apologises when she says something mean.

I sometimes feel like a bit of a child when I think about this, like I should be over it by now. I am in counselling but sometimes it brings the feelings back stronger. I think I am so fixated on the idea of a warm, supportive family that I can't come to terms with not having one, especially over Christmas and New Year watching others around their family meals and get togethers.

AIBU for wanting my mum to acknowledge and apologise for some of the stuff mentioned above?

Please be gentle :)

OP posts:
Evawales · 04/01/2023 18:35

I realise I started the thread with a different aibu to the one I finished with 😅apologies. I guess I'm asking if I'm unreasonable to feel hurt by the way my mum can be.

OP posts:
Cherrysoup · 04/01/2023 18:40

Yanbu, no, but she won’t change and will forever gaslight you into believing that she was a great mum throughout your childhood. It’s pointless trying to get her to admit to anything.

MouseRoar · 04/01/2023 18:40

Your mother did not do a good job parenting you, and some of the things you mention are abusive. She also makes you feel guilty about your very natural feelings, so she is continuing the abuse into your adulthood.

Sorry Op, please persevere with your counselling.

Booboos1 · 04/01/2023 18:42

Hi OP. I could have written a lot of what you wrote myself- my mum was also very similiar in alot of ways; very bizarre about police and doctors, not wanting to provide me with sanitary items etc. I was also very isolated and kept disconnected from the outside world.

I made a thread earlier in the year asking if my experiences were normal and received an awful lot of support from others on here. Have you looked at the stately homes thread on here? I’m nearly 40 now and it’s only in the last few years I started to think about my childhood and how it was different to the way I parent my own children. It’s not silly OP.

ABigSalad123 · 04/01/2023 18:42

So sorry to hear you’ve had some very difficult and distressing things happen to you. How is the counselling going? Is it helpful? If it’s helping and you have the financial means to continue, I think that could be beneficial. However, if you don’t feel it’s working, you can certainly ask your counsellor to try a different approach or feel free to try a different counsellor.

Booboos1 · 04/01/2023 18:43

I’m also non contact with my mum now - this is something you could potentially consider? I don’t want to upset you but she sounds quite toxic and unless she brings something significant to you or your childrens lives I would consider either cutting contact or keeping it to a minimum.

Booboos1 · 04/01/2023 18:44

Also, I think you’re unlikely to get an apology or acknowledgement from her, sorry. However I absolutely understand you want one and you are absolutely not being unreasonable to want that.

ssd · 04/01/2023 18:45

You're not being unreasonable at all.
That all sounds very neglectful and hurtful.
I don't know how you'd deal with that, never mind get over it.
I'm just so sorryFlowers

Hazey19 · 04/01/2023 18:46

Im sorry your childhood was like this. It does sound like neglectful and abusive parenting, and it is not surprising you are struggling. I hope you now have loving people around you xxxx

Calvinlookingforhobbes · 04/01/2023 18:48

She is and was a poor mother. You recognise this, which is the first step. Get some counselling and ensure you break the circles of her neglect. I doubt you’ll get when you need from her ever so try and get professional help to help you come to terms with it all. Take care, OP.

Slimjimtobe · 04/01/2023 18:48

It’s amazing that you are heading to Uni on September as your mother did not nurture you or care for you properly.

try and keep a distance and don’t expect anything from her .. keep going forward with your own life and plans

rothbury · 04/01/2023 18:49

My childhood was incredibly similar, including not being able to have my own bedroom ( a room was available) right up until when I left home for uni.

My mother hates me. She rejoices in my failures and sulks if anything goes well for me.

Going NC was the best thing I ever did for myself.

Counselling helped me to forgive myself for wanting a mother who loved me, and to move forward. I hope you find a way forward too, but please never think the problem is you - it really isn't Flowers

Pleasecreateausername13 · 04/01/2023 18:49

OP - I really really hate to say this. But I’m learning boundaries with my counsellor because I had parents who abused me and now in my 30s tell me I have “false memory syndrome”
My counsellor advise I cut them out my life but I’m not strong enough to do that as they are really good grandparents and have mellowed a lot as they have got older however I set boundaries with them now. I stand up to them and they don’t like it but it’s made all the difference to my self esteem and my all round personality.

Keep with the counselling and just remembered there is nothing YOU could have done differently. You were a child and your needs were not met. Your mum will never change but the cycle can be broken with you. But maybe consider cutting her out and getting on with your life.

Good luck for the future.

Evawales · 04/01/2023 18:50

Booboos1 · 04/01/2023 18:42

Hi OP. I could have written a lot of what you wrote myself- my mum was also very similiar in alot of ways; very bizarre about police and doctors, not wanting to provide me with sanitary items etc. I was also very isolated and kept disconnected from the outside world.

I made a thread earlier in the year asking if my experiences were normal and received an awful lot of support from others on here. Have you looked at the stately homes thread on here? I’m nearly 40 now and it’s only in the last few years I started to think about my childhood and how it was different to the way I parent my own children. It’s not silly OP.

I'm so sorry to hear you went through similar things. Were you able to speak with your mum about the way she was? Did she explain at all?

I will for sure check your thread. Thank you so much for replying.

OP posts:
ICanHideButICantRun · 04/01/2023 18:52

You should be incredibly proud of your achievements. You have a lovely family after a really sad start in life. I really feel for your earlier self.

Could you look at getting counselling with a view to going very low contact with her?

I wonder whether it would be a good idea to go to uni well away from home, too, for a completely fresh start.

Kevinyoutwat · 04/01/2023 18:55

Bloody hell OP, that was like reading my own life. Our childhoods/teenage years were startlingly similar. So many similarities (only it was my dad, not my mum, she died when I was small).

I am early 40s now, he’s 87 and in a care home with dementia. He’s ruined my life and now I am the only one who can sort out all his shit.

I just want to give you a hug.

FleasNavidad · 04/01/2023 18:57

So many shit parents. I'm so sorry to read this, OP you can distance yourself from her, you are not being unreasonable.

Brokendaughter · 04/01/2023 18:59

Please, please, spare yourself a lot of pain & walk away from this woman.

She will never love you the way you want, she will never change & she will just keep hurting you more.

Nothing you can ever do with change your position in her life, which is as the one on the floor who needs a good kicking.

In different ways to your mother, my mother destroyed me as a child, then did her best to destroy me as an adult.

The only peaceful times I ever knew were the years I went no contact with her.
It took a while, but after a year or so I started to realise just how bad she was for me & how much better my life was when the only difference was her not being in it.

If you can, find some counselling, but save a lot of harm to yourself by coming to terms with the fact you don't have the mum you wished you had.

Booboos1 · 04/01/2023 19:01

I hope you don’t mind OP but I have sent you a private message with a link to my thread. I hope the advice I was given by others is helpful to you.

no, she would never talk about it. Anytime I in any way tried to critisise her parenting or did something she felt was an attack on her she was defensive- similiar to you she would tell me I was lucky (she kept me alive but met none of my other needs basicallly). I don’t think you will get an explanation from her, but that’s ok as you are doing amazingly OP - you sound like you have made some amazing plans for yourself and I bet you’re a wonderful mum.

Scuttlingherbert · 04/01/2023 19:03

So sorry to hear this. You're doing brilliantly.

GiltEdges · 04/01/2023 19:12

AIBU for wanting my mum to acknowledge and apologise for some of the stuff mentioned above?

YANBU, but she won’t. If she was my mum, I’d be NC by now and you should probably give it some serious thought.

Perriewinkle · 04/01/2023 19:15

Am so sorry for what you went through , I think you should put some distance between you and your mother she wont discuss the past with you that will mean she has to face up to how badly she treated you . Consider going no contact you dont need her dragging you down

SpentDandelion · 04/01/2023 19:15

The only way l have found peace with my Mum is to believe she did the best she could with knowledge she had at the time, even though she put me in some very dangerous situations when l was very young due to her neglectfulness. Otherwise the hurt and anger can eat away at you.
I have forgiven her so l can move on, l stepped back, and focused on being the best Mum l can be for my children. She has never been the Mum l wanted and needed and never will be, but it's ok because she showed me exactly who l don't want to be.
My advice would be don't expect your Mum to change, she wont, but try and change the way you think and feel about her. We forgive others to set ourselves free, doesn't mean you forget, but means they no longer have the power to hurt you anymore.

Babooshka1990 · 04/01/2023 19:24

She’s not going to change, she will never be what you want and needed as a child and younger woman. As much as you can put it behind you and focus on being the Mum you always wanted.

Orangesandlemons77 · 04/01/2023 19:34

Have a look at the website Out of the FOG online, lots of helpful stuff there Flowers