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Plane landing

396 replies

Atadconfussed · 04/01/2023 16:28

Trigger warning flying for those that may not be keen … x

Am I being unreasonable to think that the below was a bit concerning / any pilots want to enlighten me?!
have flown a lot when younger / pre children but felt this was different

budget airline flight, approx 300 passengers Boeing 737
landing very wobbly on approach ( think close to runway)
huge bang on landing / touch down landing gear
worst bit!!! Very very intense what felt like attempts to break without slowing …. Loudest reverse thrust noise ever and the cabin shaking so so much
I felt pinned back in my seat and awaited a huge issue!
afterwards everyone was studded … one women crying and a few choice words heard through the cabin….
Thoughts please

OP posts:
fajitaaaa · 04/01/2023 17:39

DobbyTheHouseElk · 04/01/2023 17:38

The airport isn’t really Bristol. It’s quite a way out. I always think of it as a bit past Weston.

Is that the Weston Super Mud Weston?

KimberleyClark · 04/01/2023 17:40

ILoveeCakes · 04/01/2023 16:35

In strong winds there might be a need to land it a bit more "firmly" than usual

Also when the runway is wet, to avoid hydro planing (skidding on water) and airlines prefer rougher landings as smoother ones wear the tyres out more.

Georgeskitchen · 04/01/2023 17:40

Weather conditions and length of runway maybe? Some shorter runways can be quite scary withe thrust.
I too have had a very scary take off in fog from Manchester Airport. Terrifying not being able to see anything but I'm sure if it wasn't deemed safe they wouldn'take off!!

fUNNYfACE36 · 04/01/2023 17:40

On a recent flight very similar. The captain said he hoped we enjoyed the signature Ryanair landing, and 'look forward to smashing you into Leeds bradford Airport again soon'

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 04/01/2023 17:41

It's not fun but it's not uncommon either. I used to fly a lot (think 10-12 times a year) and the worst was landing in Kuala Lumpur in the middle of a thunderstorm - the plane was shaking all over the place.

The stewards looked totally non-plussed though so I assume it's quite normal!

fUNNYfACE36 · 04/01/2023 17:41

LIZS · 04/01/2023 17:37

Sounds not great if not unusual. Had an aborted landing into Salzburg with crosswinds then a bumpy successful retry with hard braking/reverse thrust.

Oh yes Salzburg , similar

Malbecfan · 04/01/2023 17:41

Minfilia · 04/01/2023 17:05

Just to add as well that the more junior pilot usually lands the plane (not the captain) unless there are extenuating circumstances (although the captain will take back control if the FO does something dramatically wrong!)

I have several friends with hard landings recorded in their log books when they first started flying passengers commercially. Probably a combination of weather/short runway/inexperienced pilot.

I'm not sure this is completely true. Normally aircrew take it in turns. So the FO is Pilot Flying on the outbound flight and the Captain is Pilot Monitoring, then they swap for the return flight. The Pilot Monitoring is in charge of comms.

OP, I just watched a video of the very lovely Captain Dave on Twitter who flies for BA. His SFO was in charge of the take-off and landing when they flew out on Sunday. Captain Dave landed it today when they returned. He has some really informative videos on YouTube, including when he used to fly out of London City - now that's a short runway!

Identifyingasadolphin · 04/01/2023 17:43

Interestingly the BBC Weather App has shown it as “slight breeze” in this area all day.

Since 6 a.m. it’s been utterly howling up the Bristol Channel and onwards over the Cotswolds - it’s most definitely not in any way a “breeze”

tweedlee · 04/01/2023 17:44

@Confrontayshunme oh my gosh - how did you cope? I would be soooo scared!

Pothoswithasparkle · 04/01/2023 17:44

I have to stick up for Ryanair. I was nervous flier and they were not bad. The heaviest landing I had was with no lowcost.

Don't land at Leeds Brandford btw. Always windy!

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 04/01/2023 17:46

Bumpiest was a Thai airways into Langkawi. Felt like the pilot got it about 50 feet off the runway and then dropped it out of the sky.

Smoothest award goes to Etihad and Singapore. There have been a couple of times I wasn’t even sure we’d landed!

PollyCreo · 04/01/2023 17:46

I was rather shocked a few days ago when I landed in my home country and the pilot turned out to be a guy from my gym 😲😂 Little stocky fella with loads of tattoos, I always thought he was a bouncer 😅

Cariadz · 04/01/2023 17:46

GasPanic · 04/01/2023 17:18

Flown a lot and had quite a few of these.

I suspect some of the less "smooth" landings are due to inexperienced co-pilots having a go for the first time or in difficult conditions.

Basically whether we like it or not everyone has to learn somehow.

They’d have spent many hours in the Sim beforehand.

Georgyporky · 04/01/2023 17:46

Somewhere upthread, instrument landing in fog was mentioned.
I flew into Madeira recently & twice the attempt at landing was aborted because of low cloud. We ended up in Fuerteventura, via Porto Santo , overnight.

Any ideas why landing with instruments is OK in fog, but not cloud ?

Cariadz · 04/01/2023 17:48

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 04/01/2023 17:46

Bumpiest was a Thai airways into Langkawi. Felt like the pilot got it about 50 feet off the runway and then dropped it out of the sky.

Smoothest award goes to Etihad and Singapore. There have been a couple of times I wasn’t even sure we’d landed!

My son, a pilot, tells me passengers actually applaud what they consider to be good landings.

notprincehamlet · 04/01/2023 17:49

Martin from Cabin Pressure says to Carolyn: 'For your information, a firm landing is generally the safest.' And Carolyn replies: 'If that landing had been any safer it would've killed us!'

WisteriaLodge · 04/01/2023 17:49

Ex Cabin crew here, It's really not unusual for Bristol airport, it has one of the shortest runways in the UK so when you're landing the pilots concentrate on stopping the plane on the short runway, and when it's windy it will feel doubly violent for passengers, not ideal but that's the way it is. Take off from there is the same, engines are up to full thrust before you've moved and then ping! Off you go! It's always feels like a faster take off because the pilots will need to use every length of the runway, It felt we were being launched from a catapult when I flew from there...

Babsexxx · 04/01/2023 17:49

I had this in October and the take off was very bumpy! It was almost like the tyres where flat! Ryanair!

lieselotte · 04/01/2023 17:50

DobbyTheHouseElk · 04/01/2023 17:38

The airport isn’t really Bristol. It’s quite a way out. I always think of it as a bit past Weston.

Yes the charmingly named Lulsgate Bottom. It's years since I flew in or out of Bristol, though.

Wikipedia says Lulsgate Aerodrome was a motor racing circuit at the former RAF Lulsgate Bottom airfield, which in 1957 subsequently became Bristol Airport.

I didn't know it had been a racetrack.

Cariadz · 04/01/2023 17:51

@WisteriaLodge - I have been known to apply my very own set of imaginary brakes when landing at Bristol.

PearlclutchersInc · 04/01/2023 17:51

Don't forget the pilot also has a vested interest on landing in one piece too😬

Daddydog · 04/01/2023 17:54

Could have been a first officer (or captain having a bad day) practising a manual approach. A lot are automated these days but sometimes they need the practice! Could have also been a crosswind landing... It's almost like the hover then #SLAM! Had one while I was learning - thought it was pretty standard stuff until I and saw the whites of my instructors eyes as he took control off me to land our plane. All pretty routine if you don't see the crew panic!

WisteriaLodge · 04/01/2023 17:55

Just to add as well that the more junior pilot usually lands the plane (not the captain) unless there are extenuating circumstances (although the captain will take back control if the FO does something dramatically wrong!)

Not true at all, I'm not sure what Airline or country you're in but that is not industry standard, not in the UK anyway, various factors come to play on who lands the plane, I know this because my DH is also a Captain for Virgin on the A350 and he's landed the plane many times..

stormywaves · 04/01/2023 17:55

Had similar and one time the plane 'landed' with a thud and then suddenly took off again. Pilot decided to circle back round for a second go 😀. The ground staff watching were less than impressed and were not very complimentary about his flying skills. Lufthansa was the airline I think.

Mumtofourandnomore · 04/01/2023 17:59

I fly from Bristol to the Isle of Man reasonably often - both ends are a bit sketchy !

I’ve had a mid-flight emergency when an engine caught fire, emerged through cloud to find no more runway left, a captain announcing ‘the cross-winds are too dangerous to take-off at present but we can see a five minute gap in the weather coming up’ 😬, three-time fly arounds, etc etc

I only stress if the crew are stressed……. I watched a documentary about planes flying through tropical storms and that was a whole new level - I found it strangely comforting !