People in small boats

[EndlessRain1]

With everything that is going on in the UK at the moment, can it really be true that one of the top 5 priorities in the country is to stop "people in small boats"?

I mean, I know a lot of people are against immigration in this form, but in the grand scheme of the shit show this country has been in the last couple of years that is in the top 5 priorities/ actions?

AIBU to think that's insane?

Yeh you’ve lost me now.

You seem a bit attached to something I haven’t said. I’ve been pretty clear on why it’s an issue and she be resolved.

Should be..

I think this hits the nail on the head.

I think someone pointed out on one of these threads before how a lot of the misery in these countries that people are emigrating from has probably been caused by the UK in the first place. If you want to stop people coming on small boats, stop exploiting their countries.

Whether it should be a top five issue or not is irrelevant really. This is just a typical Conservative pledge - like them claiming they are a low tax party and then raising taxes to the highest level for 70 years.

Rishi is only promising to pass some new laws.

He may or may not pass them, but people will keep on coming in small boats, because it's almost impossible to stop it even if the government wanted to - which they don't, actually.

People who say stuff like "just send them back" haven't bothered to educate themselves on the real practical issues.

This government seems to be a master at claiming they want one outcome, delivering the exact opposite but getting people to believe they were a success.

Well if you live in Kent the bodies washing up on the beaches are a problem, yes. As is the organised crime many of the surviving arrivals go straight into.

@Mamamia7962 any chance of a reference for where you found that information? Thanks.

Ah the word woke which means being aware of racism it was used by blacks people first.
so tell me when you use the word woke as a word like that are you a racist?
there is a debate going on right now and mumsnet are not stopping it.
However people like you fail to see history which is being repeated right now. Hitler used to use words that made Jews etc seem that they weren’t human like cockroaches etc.
yet I see that same shite again about these the horrible attitude folks have to wards bloody humans.
if you want to debate debate this the tories have been in power they have cut border force and therefore it’s taking much longer to process claims . We still ta else’s than Germany have and other countries. We have a job shortages we have folks needing nurses, or picking fruit we could be getting some to work and contribute to our society but the gov is not doing this.
Is that a case of gov inability or is it as I suspect to keep it stringing on so they can get ignorant people like the ones that use the word like woke like you did to be very angry all the time. So you fall for this divide and conquer bullshit all the time.
Also for those thinking that this gov would put money to us instead tyink again they won’t

Less not else dam predictive text lol

It’s like this country has been taken hostage by the Brexiteers and anti-immigration mob who take us done these ideological rabbit holes. They are clearly intent on maintaining a post-Brexit dialogue that most people don’t want. Small boats is not a top 5 priority for most people. A fair immigration system that does not put peoples lives at risk and doesn’t cost unnecessarily is achievable now but the current government don’t want to implement it.

Here you go Rishi, I can do ur job for you mate - priorities:

1. The demise of the NHS and other public services including the education system and social care
2. Cost of Living Crisis to address UK as home to fair wages and working conditions, work must pay properly and a windfall tax that puts the nation not business first
3. A post pandemic and post Brexit recovery plan (is there one), to include catch up education for children, business investment for small business
4. Strengthening the Union - to include NI protocol, constitutional updates and a new, fair model of governing across many nations
5. The Environment

You’re welcome Rishi.

I live in Kent. I'm pretty sure that no migrant bodies have washed up here, at least in recent years ('weve been here for 6 years, I'm fairly sure it would make at least local news). It's not like we are dodging the corpses when taking a stroll in folkestone.

I will vote for you and you are spot on depressing isn’t it?
I say this as a working class person from the red wall

@Oher that rubbish and I live in the thick of the 'action'

On the Brexit thing I’m not particularly Brexit-y in that I voted remain and would prefer a party to address SM upfront at the next GE as an option on which to vote.

I’m also fine with skilled immigration- which seems to be the case for the majority of public

But just hearing the Brexit line reappear not from the party who used it originally has just made me go huh?!

So yeah we seem to have fully embraced Brexit as a bi partisan message using the same line.

@Stopclutchingpearls If you want to see the catastrophic effects of Germany's open borders policy, have a look online at what happened there on New Year's Eve. . .

There's somewhere between Germany's policy and Australia's (which is what the current governement seem to be seeking inspiration from).

By SM I assume you mean Single Market. It's far from clear whether the EU would let us rejoin the Single Market - and if they did, we'd have to reinstate EU freedom of movement - in which case we might as well not have left surely? (Except for the costs and upheaval and ending up with a worse deal than remaining). Do you think that would be popular electorally for Labour?

I don’t know maybe not. I see links to polls on here about changed feelings on it but it’s quite remain-y on here generally, very hard to know if Labour are right to worry about losing Brexit vote.

I think it was hearing that Take Back Control line yet again that threw me. By Labour this time.

Not one person is saying open borders we were never part of Schengen any way. The point is processing time in the U.K. it’s taking years that’s why it’s costing so bloody much because they can’t work but it works on the daily mail readers that don’t seem to realise this

Just heard labours speech they are reclaiming that line to be about control on local issues giving powers to local areas rather than centralised thinking

Yep. Odd though.

Use another line not the Brexit one. I’m sure they can think of something original…

They want to appeal to my area the red wall. I see so many comments on this post that sound like some from my area

Yes I agree they do. Which is why I think we’ve really embraced Brexit now both parties are using the same line.

Not sure Brexit voters see control of borders as same as control by local governments though!

think you r right

You probably don't live in folkestone if you can't see the issue @EndlessRain1 ,