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People in small boats

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EndlessRain1 · 04/01/2023 14:58

With everything that is going on in the UK at the moment, can it really be true that one of the top 5 priorities in the country is to stop "people in small boats"?

I mean, I know a lot of people are against immigration in this form, but in the grand scheme of the shit show this country has been in the last couple of years that is in the top 5 priorities/ actions?

AIBU to think that's insane?

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CabernetSauvignon · 09/05/2023 22:41

cosmiccosmos · 11/01/2023 21:02

Is it foisted on the French though? Many of those living in the camps must have medical issues, shown by the recent problems of arrivals. They are clearly not accessing medical help and presumably getting immediate help on arrival - unlike the UK population who can't even get a GP appointment.

And yet members of the UK population are attending GP appointments daily in their thousands. Strange, that.

CabernetSauvignon · 09/05/2023 22:49

cosmiccosmos · 11/01/2023 20:43

Sorry but I don't agree about the language thing, I think it's something that trotted out by people looking to justify the influx. My local council are paying thousands on language classes and I'm no where near Kent.

I do think this is a priority. Immigration needs to be managed. I don't want the thousands of young men that are arriving, their culture is too different to ours.

I often hear how we should 'allow them to work' and they could fill all the vacancies we have - picking fruit, working in care homes. How many young men are going to work in care homes, how many have any qualifications, how many have good enough English? And so on ....,

Lastly, I have no doubt that expecting or asking these immigrants to fill these rolls will be against their human rights and the cries of 'you can't treat people like this' will ring around the country.

The millions of pounds quoted per day putting them up is a drop in the ocean compared to what the majority will cost the country in the long run - if you're a doctor, lawyer etc he well qualified you aren't hiding your quals.

Many young men can and do work in care homes, including the one where my father is. But, as you've pointed out, there are also vacancies in farming and numerous other industries. We have a long tradition of employing immigrants in things like construction and farming where language hasn't been a barrier, and indeed people from other countries are way better at learning English than we are at learning other languages.

We already have long-established rules in place about making access to benefits conditional on applying for work, so you have zero foundation for suggesting that anyone would object on human rights grounds

I must say, it puzzles me that you object so strongly to immigrants filling the vacancies which just aren't being filled by UK citizens. Surely it makes much more sense to process asylum claims quickly and, for genuine asylum seekers, get them into work and off benefits as soon as possible?

verdantverdure · 10/05/2023 05:39

Little boats wouldn't make it onto my first sheet of A4 of priorities, but it's in the Tory government's Top 5 so let's all watch them solve it shall we?

Gets Popcorn 🍿

Because I suspect it's going to go about as well as their "Brexit Contract With The British People"

Or indeed, the other 4 priorities Sunak announced.

What were they?

  1. Halve inflation
  2. Grow the economy
  3. Reduce national debt
  4. Cut NHS waiting lists
  5. Stop the boats

Failing on one and all.

verdantverdure · 10/05/2023 05:45

You know how Trump's

^"Build a Walll"
^
was just a slogan to manipulate the easily manipulated?

And that he didn't actually, at any point, intend to build a wall?

But he did do some performative cruelty involving separating children from their parents and detaining them in cages as a sop to the kind of people who rub their thighs over that sort of thing?

Well, in the U.K. we call that Stop The Boats and deporting children to Rwanda. .

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