To say the NHS does not have too many admin staff?

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/30/nhs-has-many-admin-staff-not-enough-managers/

We don't have enough staff to get the job done, hence the fact we are constantly offering admin and secretarial overtime. It seems that way in most other departments that I have dealings with. Plus it's really difficult to recruit to vacant posts.

Anyone have a different experience?

They can never get rid of staff,
they just promote upwards or sideways instead of just saying your services are no longer needed

I’d love more admin in my senior clinical role. My letters wait up to 4 weeks to be typed. The nurse practitioners spend 50% if their time doing organisational roles, arranging appointments , phoning patients . So much of this could be done by more secretaríal time.

current secretary has too much work to do in paid hours , feels stressed. Manager says no money for more hours . So we are in danger of her quitting due to stress / sickness. She won’t be the first.

Absolutely.

When I run the world NHS managers who are not in patient facing rules will have to spend one week a year working shifts in various departments.

I had to leave my NHS career because of disability, I could have been moved to admin but there was no option for that.

I'm one of these awful non clinical band 8s and my role is to improve patient safety. Its 8am and I've been at work an hour already. I had written a long post but I've deleted it because no one wants to hear it, band 8 management is the enemy after all. Suffice to say I'm burned out and am in the process of applying for jobs, if I don't get a new job I'm going to quit anyway, I've had enough.

@EddietheEagle admin within the NHS covers loads of different roles. Some are straightforward admin and some are quite specialised.
FIL does mental health admin and he has undergone a lot of training about legal aspects of detaining patients under the mental health act for example. He reviews the paperwork in a lot of detail to make sure that it complies with the law etc.
I don’t know what band he is but I know there are other staff in his department on higher and lower bands.

That's interesting

I wonder what band the straightforward admin is?