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Woman arrested in Birmingham for praying outside abortion clinic

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bagthoughts · 26/12/2022 10:17

How on earth can someone be arrested for silently praying?

Is there more to the story perhaps that is not being reported because if not I find this ridiculous and scary - what is the world coming to?

We can get arrested for our thoughts WTAF. Whether you agree or not with abortion this is just wrong.

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Isahlo · 27/12/2022 15:39

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 26/12/2022 10:24

Because she had breached a legal exclusion zone and was enforcing her religious belief and condemnation upon staff and clients going about their legal way.

If God is omniscient she could have stayed at home and prayed with equal effect. But she chose not to. She chose to ostentatiously pray somewhere she was explicitly excluded from.

Religion being used as a weapon is never a good thing.

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This.

AnorLondo · 27/12/2022 16:01

Blondlashes · 26/12/2022 20:18

@AnaBannanna Well that’s your perspective. It’s not anti women to offer alternatives to abortion - a place to live, nappies, clothes etc. Life for their baby. I accept not every woman want that. But some do, they accept it and have their babies. That’s a valid choice. Maybe if this was promoted more then women would see they have a real choice. Not every woman walking into an abortion clinic is there because it’s a choice they are ok with. Some want to keep their babies but feel (for a variety of reasons) they cannot.

A 2018 government review into the work of pro-life volunteers outside of abortion facilities found that instances of harassment are rare, and police already have powers to prosecute individuals engaging in such activities.

The most common activities of pro-life groups were found to be quiet or silent prayer, or offering leaflets about charitable support available to women who would like to consider alternative options to abortion.

The censorial provisions of the parliamentary bill drew substantive criticism from members of the House of Lords, including Liberal Democrat Peer Lord Beith, who deemed the clause “the most profound restriction on free speech I have ever seen in any UK legislation”.

Lord Farmer called the clause “fundamentally flawed”, and aske: “When one walks past, one sees that vigils are often small groups of harmless, mainly female, pensioners. Why should they be banned and silenced?”

The group whose website you are quoting are a disgusting, hateful organisation. They actively campaign for the criminisation of homosexuality. They like to get involved in cases removing children from the custody of same-sex parents. And of course, they want a woman's right to abortion removed completely.

LaLuz7 · 27/12/2022 16:06

TeamRR · 27/12/2022 15:18

Wait, my post was deleted simply for pointing out that OP also started the Andrew Tate thread and that the may not have the most innocent of intentions?

Apparently we're not supposed to use advanced search to look through a poster's history as MN "thinks it's not in the spirit of the site" 🙄

It's stupid

Miss03852 · 27/12/2022 16:11

LaLuz7 · 27/12/2022 16:06

Apparently we're not supposed to use advanced search to look through a poster's history as MN "thinks it's not in the spirit of the site" 🙄

It's stupid

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Wow that’s so ridiculous, why do they give the option of searching for posters history then? 😅

UsingChangeofName · 27/12/2022 16:50

Why on earth was @TeamRR 's post deleted ?

It is pretty relevant to the thread, if this OP is just trying to stir up outrage with Fox News headlines, rather than - as some of us gave her the benefit of the doubt - just a bit {how can I put this without it being deleted for being seen as a personal insult .....} ..er 'naive' ?

Tiltedandwilted · 27/12/2022 16:54

bagthoughts · 26/12/2022 10:18

@Hoppinggreen what do you mean what's the exclusion zone?

So you’ve formed an opinion on something you have 0 understanding of?

weird

Soubriquet · 27/12/2022 16:55

Serves her right. Whether you agree with abortion or not (I’m pro-abortion), she broke the law by breaching the exclusion zone.

She did it deliberately in the hopes her presence would put women off having their abortions.

TeamRR · 27/12/2022 16:56

LaLuz7 · 27/12/2022 16:06

Apparently we're not supposed to use advanced search to look through a poster's history as MN "thinks it's not in the spirit of the site" 🙄

It's stupid

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I didn't, I just recognised the username.

ElspethTascioni · 27/12/2022 17:12

@SerendipityJane

just being a barrister, doesn’t qualify you to give a professional opinion on any area of law. And nothing on this guy’s chambers’ we store suggests he’s qualified to give an opinion on this. And that’s even though he says he’ll accept instructions in a far wider range of areas than you’d expect someone to be competent in. And he’s pretty newly qualified. Holding yourself out as an expect in something you’re not an expert in, is doubtless in breach of his professional ethics. So, if so were you, I wouldn’t be relying on his “opinion” that thought crime now exists in England and Wales…(that’s the only jurisdiction he’s a barrister of, he couldn’t even pretend to comment on the UK as a whole).

Marths · 28/12/2022 18:56

Maria Caulfield MP has just tweeted support of the woman. She's a minister for women and she's backing someone who harasses women.

MarysGirlChildWasLate4ChristmasDay · 28/12/2022 19:08

Marths · 28/12/2022 18:56

Maria Caulfield MP has just tweeted support of the woman. She's a minister for women and she's backing someone who harasses women.

What a twat.

Againstmachine · 28/12/2022 19:11

Nope my mp but someone local to me is supporting this mo he's getting his arse handed to him.

Angeldelight81 · 28/12/2022 19:53

Againstmachine · 28/12/2022 19:11

Nope my mp but someone local to me is supporting this mo he's getting his arse handed to him.

They wont care. i used to date the son of an MP who literally said you learn early on to block out the noise, the noise being the people that voted for him and fund his lifestyle 😳

pointythings · 28/12/2022 20:04

Maria Caulfield is a forced birther. It isn't surprising she'd back this person. It's shocking that she's minister for women, but that's Tories for you.

SinnerBoy · 28/12/2022 21:17

The arrested woman was already the subject of a banning order, wasn't she? She turned up to make a "martyr" of herself, to get publicity and to pretend that we're living in 1984.

She knew exactly what she was doing and fully intended to upset women going to the clinic.

She's one of these radgies who are pro life, right up until the electric chair is on offer, or until someone carries out a school massacre - Jesus said that everyone deserves a machine gun, right? Can't take them away.

These performative, faux virtuous religiose people ignore the vast amount of their Bible. She's missed, "Judge not, lest ye be judged," for example.

They go straight from Adam & Eve, talking snake, smite, smite, smite! to Jesus loves you all. Except for you, you and you; he hates you.

Changechangychange · 28/12/2022 21:38

Marths · 28/12/2022 18:56

Maria Caulfield MP has just tweeted support of the woman. She's a minister for women and she's backing someone who harasses women.

She’s my DM’s MP. DM is in her 70s, a dyed in the wool Thatcherite, has literally never voted for anyone except the Tories, and even she won’t vote for Maria Caulfield because she’s too misogynistic and unpleasant.

SellFridges · 28/12/2022 22:16

She also generally turns up with a film crew in tow nowadays. DH and I have argued with them at least twice about filming us, and children from the local Girl’s school, without permission. We report her to the dedicated police crime number every time she appears.

It is right she has been arrested.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 29/12/2022 01:58

pointythings · 28/12/2022 20:04

Maria Caulfield is a forced birther. It isn't surprising she'd back this person. It's shocking that she's minister for women, but that's Tories for you.

aT lEaSt tHeY kNoW wHaT A wOmAn iS

ILoveeCakes · 29/12/2022 02:03

i hate that these laws need to exist. But they do. I think protestors have become smarter in the way they protest over the years and these laws are responding to that.

Gathering en masse and praying or crying and all that batshittery they pull outside abortion clinics isn't on. It's a lawful thing, so people get to go about it in peace. if you don't like it, don't get an abortion. You do you etc

BenCoopersSupportWren · 29/12/2022 09:30

No one was praying for me, that day 20 years ago. They were praying for their own pious, smug, pity filled selves.

Nailed it.

I'm sorry you had to run the gauntlet of those sanctimonious woman-haters keepaweatheredeye.

Iam4eels · 29/12/2022 09:45

JustAnotherPoster00 · 29/12/2022 01:58

aT lEaSt tHeY kNoW wHaT A wOmAn iS

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Yup, a woman is a walking incubator.

Fucking Tories.

Readabookgroucho · 29/12/2022 12:12

Break the law, get arrested. Praying has nothing to do with it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/12/2022 13:13

Maria Caulfield's priority is the voices in her head the voice of the unborn, not the women of the UK.

Snowjive2 · 20/02/2023 11:22

She’s been acquitted - CPS withdrew the charges

triforcetotem · 20/02/2023 11:31

Ugh, hopefully that doesn't encourage others of her ilk.

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