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or am I losing my mind? Can anyone advise please?

52 replies

Cherrytreez · 22/12/2022 23:11

Hi, I’m wondering if any of you could help me wrap my head around this and how I should move forward please. I will try to give you as much relevant info as possible so as not to drip feed - I am so sorry if this is lengthy. Please bear with me and do please comment if you feel you can help me with your perspective.

Earlier today I took a call from my DM in regards to Xmas dinner.
She’s a difficult woman who I am in low contact with and often try to keep the conversations short. She’s aware my DH and 3 DC’s are in a predicament at the moment regarding finances and housing due to the landlord putting the rent up an extra £300pm and my current work placement ended 3 weeks ago and so we are currently relying solely on DH’s wage which just does not even come close to covering necessary expenses never mind the extra cost of Xmas. She was ‘dangling the carrot’ of saying how much money she has (inheritance and hefty divorce settlement from her second husband) and how if she was well enough she would drive me to the supermarket and put it on her credit card for me to pay off in monthly installments. I remained quiet throughout her monologue of her illnesses and financial status until she said that her car may be due for the garage in a couple of months and that she wants to be certain that I would pay for this if she needed me to. I asked her to clarify what she meant by this and she stated that she’s too poorly to help me out (her gallbladder is playing up), but as she has offered she wants to know if I will help her out in a couple of months if she needed it as she’s certain I will definitely have a new job by then (of which I agree I will be working again soon - I don’t care what as long as my family are kept afloat).
I told her I wasn’t getting into hypothetical mind games of which she called me a ‘selfish git’ and I told her ‘not today, thank you’ and put the phone down. This conversation irked me, but did not put me in a bad mood. On a scale of horrid things she’s said and done this a 1 out of 10.

Here’s where my problem lies. 30 minutes after this conversation came to an end my DH nipped in on his lunch ( he often does as he works in and around our area ) My phone was a flurry with abusive text messages from my DM (I’m financially incompetent, I’m too sensitive, she’s only like she is with me because she loves me yadda yadda yadda). My husband asks if it’s my DM by any chance as she’s rang him up (she loves a good old bit of triangulation). He asks me to tell him my side of the story. My eldest DS (18) who heard the whole thing (I take all calls on loud speaker at home so I can continue with whatever chores I’m doing when the calls come through and she had caught me in the middle of changing bedding) decided to ‘stand up for me’ and explain exactly what he had heard and that his nan was the one shouting and calling names by the end and that I didn’t engage with her and ended the call. My DH told him to shut up and that I can defend myself. I confirmed what DS had said and told him the contents of the text messages that were coming through and asked him why he asked me what my side was as it felt he was being oppositional to me and DS. He told me what she’d said to him (I’m cruel, selfish, she’s only trying to help us) and I said everything DS has told you is true, he was witness. I have nothing to justify to anybody. He let the conversation go and went to get himself a drink. I finished off what I was doing and came down to ask him if he could drop me off at the shops on his way back into work so I could pick up some milk and bread and some pasta for tea. He agreed. When we were belted up in the car (I was sat beside him) he grabbed my knee and forcefully shook it side to side. I have no idea why. He does do rough physical things like this sometimes. I asked him to ‘please not do that’. I did not shout. I was not off. I simply asked him not to do it. So he grabbed my leg again but this time shook it violently hard hurting my groin when I tried to pull my leg back. He stopped when I raised my voice and said ‘why are doing it harder when I’ve asked you not to?!’ I was upset and scared at the confrontation ( I’m only just truly starting to speak up for myself and keep boundaries and it’s hard but I will not bounce out on myself anymore) so I didn’t look at him but kept my eyes on the dashboard. With such contempt in his voice he told me he was only playing and put his hand close to the side of my face without touching me and told me to fuck myself. I asked him if he’d just put his middle finger up at my face to which he
replied ‘yeah, I fucking did’ and did it again to prove his point and reiterated that I can fuck myself. I rode in silence for a couple of minutes until he decided he was going to chirpily chat about other things as if nothing had happened. Sensing I was upset (obviously!) he said ‘oh you gonna be like that for the rest of the day?’ And I said ‘yes,you need to say you’re sorry’. He was infuriated and demanded to know why. I said for being unkind and being disrespectful to me. He told me he wasn’t fucking sorry, he’s got nothing to say sorry for and I can fuck off. I got out of the car at the shop and he went back to work.

He’s tried to be chirpy on and off again since coming in from work this evening. He has constantly kept trying to boop my nose and give me kisses. I haven’t engaged in his behaviour but neither have I ignored him as I hate stonewalling. For the past 3 hours he’s took himself off and sulked in our bedroom.

Am I too sensitive? Or what? What’s going on here?
Please can anyone advise me how I should move forward? My head and heart are struggling with everything I’ve described above that’s going off in my life right now. Thank you to any of you that give your time to help.

OP posts:
GreenLeavesRustling · 22/12/2022 23:15

Your mum is emotionally abusive. Your husband is physically and emotionally abusive.
you sound fine and reasonable. I am so sorry. I hope you can escape x

Keyansier · 22/12/2022 23:16

What the fuck? Your mother sounds like a psychopath and your husband not too far off.

Also, if your mother has enough money to entice you with an inheritance, then why was she asking money to borrow from you?

Notimeforaname · 22/12/2022 23:16

They are both abusive. Get as far away from then as soon as you can. Depend on them for nothing..

Notimeforaname · 22/12/2022 23:17

Them*

FionnulaTheCooler · 22/12/2022 23:21

Sounds like you handled things well with your mum. Your husband sounds like an absolute dick, I know it's a MN cliche but seriously, leave the bastard.

Michellebops · 22/12/2022 23:22

You poor thing!
I agree with the others, you need to get away or throw him out.

You and your kids are worth so much more ❤️

NRCOA · 22/12/2022 23:22

I'm so sorry you are being treated this way by people who are meant to love you.

Your mother is abusive but I'm relieved you don't have to live with her.

Your husband is seriously abusive and if I were you, I would be walking out of that door. How does DS feel about the way his Dad treats you?

ortonym · 22/12/2022 23:23

First 4 replies have pretty well summed up my thoughts. But I'm wondering if your mother has said - made up - something really bad about you to your husband to make him turn against you (and DS) more or less unprovoked?

Pixiedust1234 · 22/12/2022 23:25

You have ended up with an abusive and nasty man. Probably because your mother manipulated and abused you too.

Its time to open your eyes and see what else happens. Your son already knows you are being abused by your husband as he came to support you regarding the phone call before it was obvious you needed it. Thats screwed up. Time to leave and take your children. Who knows how much he abuses them too. I really hope you can Flowers

AkoraEdelherb · 22/12/2022 23:26

What’s going on here?

You grew up with an abusive mother.

You now live with an abusive husband.

Please leave and try to break this cycle, unless you want your children to also end up in abusive relationships (at the receiving end of it, or becoming abusers themselves).

determinedtomakethiswork · 22/12/2022 23:36

Your abusive mother and your abusive husband are in cahoots to make you think you are going mad. Do whatever it takes to take you and your children away from both of them.

Swannning · 22/12/2022 23:42

GreenLeavesRustling · 22/12/2022 23:15

Your mum is emotionally abusive. Your husband is physically and emotionally abusive.
you sound fine and reasonable. I am so sorry. I hope you can escape x

This. I am so sorry that you are being treated this way Flowers

NoSquirrels · 22/12/2022 23:45

What’s going on here?

Your husband is abusive.
Your mother is abusive.

You’ve mostly got your mother’s measure and have got away from her.

You need to get away from your husband.

NoSquirrels · 22/12/2022 23:48

Your son already knows you are being abused by your husband as he came to support you regarding the phone call before it was obvious you needed it.

Bears repeating.

I’m sorry you’re in this situation.

Christmas is a tricky time - abuse can escalate. Please keep yourself safe, but make (quiet) plans to get free.

Dionysiana · 22/12/2022 23:51

You have a horribly abusive mother, which set you up to fall for a horribly abusive man. Fortunately, you have an inner voice that questions their abuse. Trust it and listen to it. Easier said than done. I suggest you contact women’s aid.

NRCOA · 22/12/2022 23:58

OP, are you safe? I worry that your husband may have access to your phone and may see this thread.

Please seek help asap.

  • The Freephone National Domestic Abuse Helpline, run by Refuge on 0808 2000 247 for free at any time, day or night. The staff will offer confidential, non-judgemental information and support.

  • womansaid.org.uk

Cherrytreez · 23/12/2022 01:43

Thank you all, deeply, for taking time out to respond to me. In one hand I am shocked at your responses and the adamance that I should get out, but in the other I’m also not fully surprised. There’s so many things that just feel off. The occurrences described in my post above feel like a drop in the ocean and so minimal to me in comparison of what has happened over the years, but I feel so small all the time and I can’t help thinking- is it me? Am I such a regrettable person to be involved with that I do deserve this treatment?
In response to whether my mother has made something up to make him lash out - I’m not sure. She’s certainly done it before. And would do it again. She has also sided with him in the past when he has done hurtful things and chided me for being disloyal if I’ve spoken out. They have been known to team up, but equally dislike each other at the same time.
In response to another poster regarding if I’m safe. Physically I believe I am. Thank you. I’m becoming more aware I’m not emotionally or mentally safe though.
I have no other people to discuss this with and I’m sick and tired of trying to figure this all out in my head. Thank you again for taking time out for me.

OP posts:
wellholygod · 23/12/2022 02:08

He is just horrible op. A complete coward as well, waiting until he got
you into the car where the 18th are old is out of earshot. I would prefer to live peacefully in a cardboard box under a bridge than with this horrible abusive evil man

Brandyb · 23/12/2022 02:13

ortonym · 22/12/2022 23:23

First 4 replies have pretty well summed up my thoughts. But I'm wondering if your mother has said - made up - something really bad about you to your husband to make him turn against you (and DS) more or less unprovoked?

Interesting question but nothing justifies physically threatening and sinister way your OH behaves towards you

Newmumatlast · 23/12/2022 02:15

Pixiedust1234 · 22/12/2022 23:25

You have ended up with an abusive and nasty man. Probably because your mother manipulated and abused you too.

Its time to open your eyes and see what else happens. Your son already knows you are being abused by your husband as he came to support you regarding the phone call before it was obvious you needed it. Thats screwed up. Time to leave and take your children. Who knows how much he abuses them too. I really hope you can Flowers

Agree with this. Get out before your kids learn this to be a relationship they should put up with for themselves when older too. And go NC with your mum

TwitTwoodiniEscapeOwlogist · 23/12/2022 05:58

I don't usually comment on relationship posts, but this was just horrible. Your mother sounds nasty, but It's your husband's behaviour that upsets me the most. If this was someone in work doing that to you, you'd think they were foul and have nothing to do with them. But you're planning on spending the rest of your life with him. Why stay with him, he's not a nice person at all. Why keep yourself tied to this nasty bit of work, you'd be WAY better off on your own.

ThreeLocusts · 23/12/2022 06:24

OP what stood out most to me in your post is that your son felt the need to help you - against your husband - and your husband told him to shut up.

Sounds like you would do your 18yo a favour by getting out, too.

autienotnaughty · 23/12/2022 06:45

Your are being physically and emotionally abused. You don't deserve to be treated that way . Speak to woman's aid or similar. Get some advice and look at leaving your partner.

3487642l · 23/12/2022 06:46

Look up George Simon's book Wolf in Sheep's Clothing. People operate very differently. You are not too sensitive. You are aware that your mother and husband are operating in a very different reality to the one you occupy, where you try to give the benefit of the doubt and been kind. They are not being kind or giving you the benefit of the doubt. You need to get away from them and give yourself space and safety from these individuals. Please get the help that is there for you from Women's aid etc.

euff · 23/12/2022 06:57

You are not too sensitive. Your DM and DH are nasty abusive pieces of work. You shouldn't have needed to defend yourself and your DS shouldn't have felt the need to step up for you and been told to shut up when he did. Do you really want to stay with someone who treats you this way?