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or am I losing my mind? Can anyone advise please?

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Cherrytreez · 22/12/2022 23:11

Hi, I’m wondering if any of you could help me wrap my head around this and how I should move forward please. I will try to give you as much relevant info as possible so as not to drip feed - I am so sorry if this is lengthy. Please bear with me and do please comment if you feel you can help me with your perspective.

Earlier today I took a call from my DM in regards to Xmas dinner.
She’s a difficult woman who I am in low contact with and often try to keep the conversations short. She’s aware my DH and 3 DC’s are in a predicament at the moment regarding finances and housing due to the landlord putting the rent up an extra £300pm and my current work placement ended 3 weeks ago and so we are currently relying solely on DH’s wage which just does not even come close to covering necessary expenses never mind the extra cost of Xmas. She was ‘dangling the carrot’ of saying how much money she has (inheritance and hefty divorce settlement from her second husband) and how if she was well enough she would drive me to the supermarket and put it on her credit card for me to pay off in monthly installments. I remained quiet throughout her monologue of her illnesses and financial status until she said that her car may be due for the garage in a couple of months and that she wants to be certain that I would pay for this if she needed me to. I asked her to clarify what she meant by this and she stated that she’s too poorly to help me out (her gallbladder is playing up), but as she has offered she wants to know if I will help her out in a couple of months if she needed it as she’s certain I will definitely have a new job by then (of which I agree I will be working again soon - I don’t care what as long as my family are kept afloat).
I told her I wasn’t getting into hypothetical mind games of which she called me a ‘selfish git’ and I told her ‘not today, thank you’ and put the phone down. This conversation irked me, but did not put me in a bad mood. On a scale of horrid things she’s said and done this a 1 out of 10.

Here’s where my problem lies. 30 minutes after this conversation came to an end my DH nipped in on his lunch ( he often does as he works in and around our area ) My phone was a flurry with abusive text messages from my DM (I’m financially incompetent, I’m too sensitive, she’s only like she is with me because she loves me yadda yadda yadda). My husband asks if it’s my DM by any chance as she’s rang him up (she loves a good old bit of triangulation). He asks me to tell him my side of the story. My eldest DS (18) who heard the whole thing (I take all calls on loud speaker at home so I can continue with whatever chores I’m doing when the calls come through and she had caught me in the middle of changing bedding) decided to ‘stand up for me’ and explain exactly what he had heard and that his nan was the one shouting and calling names by the end and that I didn’t engage with her and ended the call. My DH told him to shut up and that I can defend myself. I confirmed what DS had said and told him the contents of the text messages that were coming through and asked him why he asked me what my side was as it felt he was being oppositional to me and DS. He told me what she’d said to him (I’m cruel, selfish, she’s only trying to help us) and I said everything DS has told you is true, he was witness. I have nothing to justify to anybody. He let the conversation go and went to get himself a drink. I finished off what I was doing and came down to ask him if he could drop me off at the shops on his way back into work so I could pick up some milk and bread and some pasta for tea. He agreed. When we were belted up in the car (I was sat beside him) he grabbed my knee and forcefully shook it side to side. I have no idea why. He does do rough physical things like this sometimes. I asked him to ‘please not do that’. I did not shout. I was not off. I simply asked him not to do it. So he grabbed my leg again but this time shook it violently hard hurting my groin when I tried to pull my leg back. He stopped when I raised my voice and said ‘why are doing it harder when I’ve asked you not to?!’ I was upset and scared at the confrontation ( I’m only just truly starting to speak up for myself and keep boundaries and it’s hard but I will not bounce out on myself anymore) so I didn’t look at him but kept my eyes on the dashboard. With such contempt in his voice he told me he was only playing and put his hand close to the side of my face without touching me and told me to fuck myself. I asked him if he’d just put his middle finger up at my face to which he
replied ‘yeah, I fucking did’ and did it again to prove his point and reiterated that I can fuck myself. I rode in silence for a couple of minutes until he decided he was going to chirpily chat about other things as if nothing had happened. Sensing I was upset (obviously!) he said ‘oh you gonna be like that for the rest of the day?’ And I said ‘yes,you need to say you’re sorry’. He was infuriated and demanded to know why. I said for being unkind and being disrespectful to me. He told me he wasn’t fucking sorry, he’s got nothing to say sorry for and I can fuck off. I got out of the car at the shop and he went back to work.

He’s tried to be chirpy on and off again since coming in from work this evening. He has constantly kept trying to boop my nose and give me kisses. I haven’t engaged in his behaviour but neither have I ignored him as I hate stonewalling. For the past 3 hours he’s took himself off and sulked in our bedroom.

Am I too sensitive? Or what? What’s going on here?
Please can anyone advise me how I should move forward? My head and heart are struggling with everything I’ve described above that’s going off in my life right now. Thank you to any of you that give your time to help.

OP posts:
carefulcalculator · 23/12/2022 07:02

GreenLeavesRustling · 22/12/2022 23:15

Your mum is emotionally abusive. Your husband is physically and emotionally abusive.
you sound fine and reasonable. I am so sorry. I hope you can escape x

I agree.

I'm really sorry @Cherrytreez Flowers

boboshmobo · 23/12/2022 07:07

I wonder if he is after her money so is siding with her.. def leave ! They both sound horrendous!

We went NC with mil who is narcissistic.. life is so much better without her in it !

Nimbostratus100 · 23/12/2022 07:16

I really hope you get rid of this nasty abusive man and have a lovely happy 2023 without him. Your son sounds lovely

gettingolderandgrumpier · 23/12/2022 07:35

Vile people op I’m so sorry . It always amazes me how someone you love can be so vile but I’ve had it myself so understand. Do not put up with this behaviour you hinted this isn’t the worse so makes me think as you’ve put up with this he thinks it’s fine . I’m sorry if my mum rang my dh with abuse he would not come home for ‘ my side of the story ‘ he’d be out on his ear for not supporting me .
i hope you find the strength to do something about it soon .

Anothernamechange1010 · 23/12/2022 07:37

Your post has got my heart racing just reading it

I hope you can make plans to extricate yourself fully from both of these toxic toxic people.

Sending you love x

DoubleHelix79 · 23/12/2022 07:56

Nobody has ever done anything as disrespectful and cruel as your 'D'H did to you on that occasion and I cannot imagine any decent man thinking this is ok. You've been worn down by many years of this but you need to get out as soon as you can. There is no excuse, and no apology he can make that would ever make up for it. You did not cause or deserve this. I bet your DS, if asked, would tell you that he wants you to leave for your own sake and will be relieved when you do.

Floatyunicorn · 23/12/2022 08:39

You need to get away from them both.

Start making plans to find somewhere else to live and tell neither of them.

Keep strong x

Thisbastardcomputer · 23/12/2022 08:39

If you were my daughter I'd be buying your food shopping weekly until things improve for your family. It sounds like she's physically unable to help but financially very able.

I'm clueless how people like that tick, go grey rock in her.

Your husband, I don't have words.

madmumofteens · 23/12/2022 08:40

Oh OP that's a hard read you are being abused emotionally by your mother and physically by your husband you deserve so much more go NC with your so called mother and LTB of a so called husband 💐 make this Christmas when you say enough is enough x

lurchermummy · 23/12/2022 08:46

Hi OP sorry you are going through this I just want to say it is absolutely not you - abuse is never ever your fault, you do not deserve this. You sound a mature and self aware person and your son sounds lovely. Please do what you can to get away from both these people for his sake if not yours.

Purplechicken207 · 23/12/2022 08:52

You aren't safe - he hurt you. And people tend to escalate with abusive behaviour. He also told your son to shut up - how long until he pushes one of the kids around too? None of you should be near him. Leave, or report to the police and make him leave

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 23/12/2022 09:22

What the fuck?!

Why are you with him? Why??

Motnight · 23/12/2022 09:29

GreenLeavesRustling · 22/12/2022 23:15

Your mum is emotionally abusive. Your husband is physically and emotionally abusive.
you sound fine and reasonable. I am so sorry. I hope you can escape x

First response nailed it, Op. Good luck.

BMW6 · 23/12/2022 09:41

OP you have done NOTHING to deserve this awful abuse from your mother and your husband. They sound like 2 of a kind.

Please please make a resolution that in 2023 you will get away from both these awful toxic bullies.
Divorce the husband and go NC with the woman who gave birth to you. She does not deserve the honour of being called Mother.

You and your son make a wonderful team, he loves you and has your back. Neither of you should put up with the other 2.

BuddhaAtSea · 23/12/2022 09:51

@Cherrytreez you’re not going mad. It’s not you. You’re not too sensitive, you’ve done nothing wrong. You deserve to be loved and respected, supported and cared for.

A normal mother reaction to difficulties would be: I’m pinging you some money, love, to get you through. I would leave it to my child whether she gives it back or not, I would have dipped into my savings, which ultimately she would inherit anyway.

As for your DH, if he did that to a dog, it would be abuse, you can see that, can’t you? If he did that to your child, same. When he does it to you, it’s no different, it’s still abuse.

NewToWoo · 23/12/2022 09:55

She's manipulative and you have good boundaries with her.

He is abusive in a really devious way. If he hit you, that's clearly abuse. But try telling people 'my husband shook my leg'. It sounds daft. That's a method of sneaking the abuse in and letting it escalate.

I am glad DS stood up for you.

I am so sorry life is tough right now, I rarely say LTB but I do hope you can find a way to move out from living with him as soon as possible. Never ever rely on her, either.

liarliarshortsonfire · 23/12/2022 10:00

GreenLeavesRustling · 22/12/2022 23:15

Your mum is emotionally abusive. Your husband is physically and emotionally abusive.
you sound fine and reasonable. I am so sorry. I hope you can escape x

This!!

Pismascrescents · 23/12/2022 10:08

Abused people often seek abusive relationships because they feel normal. They have low self esteem because they’ve been treated badly. They put their own needs second for the same reason.

It’s not you. There are plenty of free resources online that will help you to build up your boundaries and free you. Good luck OP. Meanwhile grey rock all the way.

Sparklesocks · 23/12/2022 10:13

Reading about what he did in the car made my stomach churn, OP. Echoing the many others, I hope you can get out. You and your son deserve so much better.

crazeekat · 23/12/2022 10:23

They are both gaslighting u, they are both mentally abusive, ur hubby worse.
Do not borrow from ur mum, if it comes to Xmas have a bowl of pasta, and keep ur pride babe.
If hubby doesn't like it, let him go to ur mums. I agree, I think ur mum is messaging him and manipulating him. Sick ur mum does this but worse ur hubby listens to it.
Get back to work for ur sanity, don't do just anything, do something u will enjoy, get some time back to u, and then get these folk into touch in ur life. Ur a good person, don't let them say otherwise. Look after urself and ur kids, rest, gtf x

witchesbubblebath · 23/12/2022 10:40

Your mother sounds like mine who I highly expect to have borderline personality disorder. Your DH is also highly abusive.
leave if you can, you have my sentiments.

HomeAGnome · 23/12/2022 10:40

Darling listen to what pp have said, you deserve better

NRCOA · 23/12/2022 10:44

witchesbubblebath · 23/12/2022 10:40

Your mother sounds like mine who I highly expect to have borderline personality disorder. Your DH is also highly abusive.
leave if you can, you have my sentiments.

I have borderline personality disorder.

Please don't put us all in the 'manipulative' bracket because that's certainly not the case.

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 10:44

This is not your fault. Having an abusive parent has left you vulnerable and you are with an abusive man.

I would honestly start planning your exit from this relationship as soon as possible.

whynotwhatknot · 23/12/2022 11:14

theyre both abusing you-what husband would side with his mil and attack you-the man is disgusting

try and get your affairs together and leave him