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Nurse sacked & taken to court for stealing pain relief for a headache

206 replies

Poppedmytyreffs · 21/12/2022 19:08

As above. What are your thoughts? Will try to post a link now

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FurAndFeathers · 21/12/2022 21:29

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2022 21:27

It's prescription medicine so that's pretty serious.

No it’s OTC 🙄

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2022 21:29

@depends on the strength

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2022 21:30

@FurAndFeathers depends on the strength

FurAndFeathers · 21/12/2022 21:30

AnnaMagnani · 21/12/2022 20:16

This isn't taking 2 co-codamol for a headache.

It is taking enough medication that staff noticed they were consistently running short.

Enough that cameras were installed and then she was caught taking more, on more than one occasion.

Given co-codamol is highly tradeable and addictive, this is a serious incident which would have had to be reported to and managed by the police.

Agree. Very likely a persistent offender

FurAndFeathers · 21/12/2022 21:31

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2022 21:30

@FurAndFeathers depends on the strength

Fair enough. Then it’s certainly not always prescription medication.
do you know it was prescription strength that she took

diddl · 21/12/2022 21:32

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 21/12/2022 20:43

Really, he sounds like a bit of a dick, wasting time when he could have asked someone else for one like a normal person or if no one the whole hospital had their own painkiller he coul have asked someone else to get him one

I thought he sounded like a total twat as well.

It surely makes sense that you can't have staff just helping themselves to stock

Lapland123 · 21/12/2022 22:28

I don’t think the surgeon sounds like a dick. If he asked someone for one, or to get him one, he’d probably be told ‘it’s not my job’ by someone 🙄

I wouldn’t want a surgeon with a thumping headache operating on me anyway. So list would need to be delayed anyway/ he would need to go home sick if didn’t get the medication

BadNomad · 21/12/2022 22:35

Or, he could bring his own paracetamol with him, like the rest of us do. Or ask a colleague if they can lend him a couple from their own stash. There is no need to take from hospital stock.

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2022 22:36

@FurAndFeathers

do you know it was prescription strength that she took

It's a reasonable assumption to make that it was given the outcome was dismissal.

UseAMuckySock · 21/12/2022 22:40

MoveBitch · 21/12/2022 19:13

I wouldn't take co-codamol for a headache.

Me neither, they actually give me headache and nobody believes me!

Cosmos123 · 21/12/2022 22:41

Buy them from a supermarket only 29p

UseAMuckySock · 21/12/2022 22:43

There was a nurse who used to wander the wards at our local hospital in uniform asking for tramadol for another ward. They always gave her it. She didn’t even work there.

They do have to be strict with stuff like this because this type of stuff happens

FlirtyMelons · 21/12/2022 22:54

I don't understand why anyone would think it's OK to take medication from work, there has to be a zero tolerance policy IMO so it's a sackable offence regardless of what it was.

WhatLikeItsHard · 21/12/2022 23:02

There must be more to this story.

Someone obviously noticed that they were getting through the co-codamol a bit too quickly. The hospital wouldn't bother counting the tablets and getting permission to secretly film the staff for no good reason. Getting permission to secretly film staff would probably mean that they were concerned enough to get the police involved before they knew it was definitely her.

I have worked as a nurse for nearly a decade. Everyone knows that the official policy is that you can't help yourself to hospital stock. If you need paracetamol, you either buy it - I always have some in my locker, or borrow some from a colleague.

Years ago people would help themselves to ibuprofen or paracetamol, but not now.

UseAMuckySock · 21/12/2022 23:05

WhatLikeItsHard · 21/12/2022 23:02

There must be more to this story.

Someone obviously noticed that they were getting through the co-codamol a bit too quickly. The hospital wouldn't bother counting the tablets and getting permission to secretly film the staff for no good reason. Getting permission to secretly film staff would probably mean that they were concerned enough to get the police involved before they knew it was definitely her.

I have worked as a nurse for nearly a decade. Everyone knows that the official policy is that you can't help yourself to hospital stock. If you need paracetamol, you either buy it - I always have some in my locker, or borrow some from a colleague.

Years ago people would help themselves to ibuprofen or paracetamol, but not now.

Well yeah because if it’s acceptable to take a couple of paracetamol it’s not that much of a leap to take a couple of codeine tablets … and then it’s not that much of a leap to take a couple of tramadol. Might as well get stuck into the morphine whilst they’re at it

WhatLikeItsHard · 21/12/2022 23:09

@UseAMuckySock

I'd say it's a leap, and would be hard to do as tramadol and morphine are controlled drugs where I work.

But yes, a blanket policy of no meds for personal use is for the best.

UseAMuckySock · 21/12/2022 23:11

WhatLikeItsHard · 21/12/2022 23:09

@UseAMuckySock

I'd say it's a leap, and would be hard to do as tramadol and morphine are controlled drugs where I work.

But yes, a blanket policy of no meds for personal use is for the best.

Oh yes, they did move tramadol into CD category didn’t they. It’s been years since I worked in a hospital (thankfully)

MakeMineALarge1 · 22/12/2022 06:26

Badger1970 · 21/12/2022 19:45

I wouldn't want a nurse treating me that had taken codeine.

Please tell me how you would know if they had taken codeine before treating you?

MakeMineALarge1 · 22/12/2022 06:33

Lapland123 · 21/12/2022 20:18

And cocodamol definitely not appropriate for just a headache

And you're basing that on what medical qualifications?
I take it for headaches

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/12/2022 08:32

MakeMineALarge1 · 22/12/2022 06:26

Please tell me how you would know if they had taken codeine before treating you?

Eyes are pinned, firstly. The rest depends upon how much they've had. Can't actually tell if they've had codeine or morphine, but it's absolutely obvious they've taken an opiate.

Just like it is when you take one. Can't argue with physiogical responses.

MakeMineALarge1 · 22/12/2022 08:35

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/12/2022 08:32

Eyes are pinned, firstly. The rest depends upon how much they've had. Can't actually tell if they've had codeine or morphine, but it's absolutely obvious they've taken an opiate.

Just like it is when you take one. Can't argue with physiogical responses.

I'm pretty sure if they were off their tits on codeine other staff would notice.

MakeMineALarge1 · 22/12/2022 08:37

I've taken codeine and worked, I'm sure you'd rather me take a medication to cure my pain before looked after you.

Virginiaplain · 22/12/2022 08:41

You can buy the lowest strength co-codamol from pharmacies but the higher strengths are only available on prescription

On Nhs website - why not paracetamol for a headache - no restrictions there

vivainsomnia · 22/12/2022 08:44

If you read the article, they put a camera because drugs kept disappearing. It wasn't the first time and it's clear there's more to it.

maeveiscurious · 22/12/2022 08:46

There is always more to these stories