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To ask you if something you did/wanted at 16 could be made permanent for life.

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OneOfThoseOldFashionedWomen · 20/12/2022 18:37

IABU What I wanted at 16 is the same as what I want now I'm an adult

YANBU 16 was a time of fun and exploration, tf I moved on from it.

At 16 I wanted to marry my first boyfriend, he didn't like my family or my friends but I was headover heels for him. I wanted to leave school and get a job looking after dogs and we had named our future children which I wanted as soon as possible, I wanted to tatoo his name on my back.

I am very grateful that my teenage self was left to grow up, are you?

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Beamur · 21/12/2022 11:48

At 16 I wanted to be a vet. So I took science A levels but didn't actually like them.
I'm not a vet now.
I would have liked a tattoo - I don't have any now and no desire to get one.
I was also bulimic and self harming. 16 was a bad place for me overall.
But, I don't think having (some) autonomy at 16 is necessarily a bad thing. We do change our ideas and values over time - I'm not the same person at 50 as I was at 40 or 30 but I wouldn't deny my younger self the choices I made.
Some people will make good decisions at 16, some won't make good decisions at any age. But most 16 year old aren't equipped with the ability to reflect with life experience so legal autonomy should reflect that.

Everydayaschoolday · 21/12/2022 12:04

YANBU. I knew what options to do at school to lead to my uni course and bagged by career of choice. So at 16 I had my career path mapped out and it worked out. For a while.

However, I was adamant I didn’t want children and my career choice would be for life. I am now the happiest I’ve ever been as a housewife, a mother, and carer to our disabled child.

I know what you’re referring to and while I had my career life sorted (and was great for the 16 years it lasted), I didn’t have my sense of self sorted and I grew into this in my 20’s, more so in my 30’s and even my 40’s. Approaching 50 and now I feel at my most complete. I would have a miserable life now if what I wanted at 16 was fixed.

BadSkiingMum · 21/12/2022 12:18

The middle teen years can be very frustrating and I am all in favour of 16 year olds being able to vote or take on some civic responsibilities. But being able to make irreversible changes to your body at 16? Why on earth is that being seen as a good idea? Even if something is much desired at 16, waiting two years surely shouldn't be a problem...

A sixteen or seventeen year old boy or girl should be focusing on his or her education and be safeguarded by his or her family, school and by the authorities from making poor decisions that will have harmful repercussions on his or her later life.

I also disagree with 'marriage with parental consent at 16', as apparently that often ends up being 'marriage at parental behest'... 😕
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59344731

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RamblingEclectic · 21/12/2022 12:50

A couple decades on it's a bit hard to remember, which may be for the best. The main things I recall wanting - to finish school, get as far away from my abusive family as possible, to find love, understanding and peace - those were great ideals I still standby, but I made many reckless choices - and dodged many bullets - on the road to get there. I didn't really have a dream job or person though I was unknowingly chatting with my future husband at the time. I didn't much in the way of specifics at the time, I just had this ticking clock - what little support I had was soon to end - and desire to find the road out.

I wasn't really left to grow up, I feel I had to do it on speedrun to survive. I am glad that the therapy I had was skills-based and actively challenged my perception. At 16, I'd been in therapy for years - I was lucky to have some in school and local community groups without my family needing to be involved. I had very bad episodes of depression and gender dysphoria and absolute recklessness, this was diagnosed as part of my trauma response - it was trying to protect me in a world I'd learned in very hard ways I wasn't safe in. This apparently also explains my weak autobiographical memory - I've some memories that oddly just stop midconversation.

Identity was part of that, it was part of a 'truth' or that peace I was looking for, I have - not sure if it's natural or from the environment that spouted a lot about this - an inclination towards wanting a solid constant truth - in identity, in religion, in worldview. At 16, I was so sure 'the truth was out there, I just had to find it and once I did, I'd be a 'good person'. I've had to work to accept uncertainty. In my 20s I had a major issue with falling into social groups around ideologies which was awful. I'm glad I had people who cared and could challenge me beyond my adherence to the party line. I now have a boundary of not identifying with any ideology - I can work with people for a cause, but I don't need to define myself by it, don't even need to view myself as good - and really doing away with the concept of innate identity entirely. Reading some of Hume's and similar writings on distinctness vs identity, that while being a distinct individual I am also an ever changing multitude that I can work to get into an alignment but not static, has brought me a lot of peace. I still occasionally get episodes where my body or being perceived as female feels alien and threatening, but they're much fewer and far between and the gender related care I had played a part in that. I'm glad I had that when it was about skills to cope and looking into potential causes rather than validation. I didn't need it affirmed that it would be better for me to be a boy, I'd heard that all my life, I needed it affirmed that whether it was a in-born or a natural response for having abusers use my sex against me, that I could work to live contently.

dolor You're aware that there are transgender and other gender diverse people who aren't in favour of Scotland's approach? The most nonsense came from the recent BBC article with trying to argue that gender identity shouldn't be a matter for the state, but wanting the state and state documents to be altered to verify and validate it. I actually don't want the state to be involved in my gender dysphoria or gender presentation, and so I don't actually want it on my paperwork. The respect I get will be from other people in my life, not papers. Yeah, it's a bit awkward having my birth certificate name that I never used and my current passport name on my naturalization certificate a process I was required to consent to background checks and show evidence of adhering to the law and have my biometric information taken and tested and may to process all that to get those additional rights and responsibilities & change my legal status and my DBS is a bit longer than most as I've had more than usual amount of legally used names, but erasing those would be to lie and make a mockery of the safeguarding protections that document is meant to help with.

Beowulfa · 21/12/2022 13:03

My A Level choices in Year 11 did impact my life; I wasn't able to switch subjects at university and ended up doing a second degree with the OU later in life. I don't think it's reasonable to ask 15/16 year olds to effectively commit themselves to a BA or BSc and a very specific career direction.

In relation to the current shitshow in Scotland, I'm thinking about how similar boys and girls looked when I was a teenager (90s). We all wore DMs, combat trousers, oversized Nirvana hoodies and checked shirts. How could we have proven we'd been "living as the opposite gender"?

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