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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if you have an idea you believe would significantly improve life in the UK?

508 replies

ConfusedmumUC · 17/12/2022 18:44

I’ll go first.

I can’t help but think making someone’s rent payments eligible to prove you can pay a mortgage would go a long way to housing security for so many people. And limiting the amount of properties owned by one landlord / amount a landlord can charge in rent, would also go a long way. I can’t help but think profiteering massively off of a basic need and right such as housing is really not ok.

Im sure there’s a reason why my idea wouldn’t work, feel free to put me right 😂

What’s your idea?

OP posts:
echt · 18/12/2022 04:26

Aintnosupermum · 18/12/2022 03:39

Scandinavia is not the panacea people think it is. My ex husband is Danish and during covid I lived in denmark. It’s a xenophobic country. Their immigration policies are horrific. They were proud of anti immigration policies including the removal of Syrian refugees. The Danes are fully in favour of processing refugees in Rwanda and it was floated there first before Priti Patel ever mentioned anything in the UK. Most importantly understand their education system is terrible. Parents send their children to ‘free schools’ where you pay a top up. In essence it’s a private school. The Scandinavian countries really have the best propaganda and PR.

As for schools have a max of 15 to a class, if you look at the birth rates, since changes to benefits came in, people are having 2 children now and the decline in numbers is going to create the opportunity to do something radical like have 15 children to a class. Rather than shut schools down, I’d like to see classrooms stay open and have less children in each class. Yes it’s expensive upfront but I think these children will receive a better education and it will enable more people to train in the positions needed for our society to function.

Taxes do need to change and I think it comes from a change in money made available to those over 65. Why do they automatically get Tv license paid for, free prescriptions and money for their heating when so many of that generation have final salary pensions. So many are retired earning significant sums. They really don’t need the help. Obviously there are plenty of elderly who don’t have such funds and they of course should be helped. I can’t understand how a pension paying out £50k a year, enables any other assistance being paid until it’s shown the full amount is spent on care in the home.

  1. Over 65s do not automatically get their TV licence paid
  2. Over 65s do not automatically get the Winter Fuel payment
  3. "So many, etc" Care to put figure on that?
Aintnosupermum · 18/12/2022 05:03
  1. TV license is free for anyone over 75 and who gets pension credit ‘in the household’ www.gov.uk/free-discount-tv-licence
  2. Winter fuel payment is based on your age. Income has nothing to do with it. www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/eligibility
  3. I don’t need to put a figure on it. The amount of help given to OAPs over other groups is shocking. We all know why it happens, which is why it’s really important to vote. Why do OAPs get free prescriptions automatically when 8% receive more than £39k a year just from their occupational pension? Take a look at this link: www.gov.uk/government/statistics/pensioners-incomes-series-financial-year-2020-to-2021/pensioners-incomes-series-financial-year-2020-to-2021
Ladyof2022 · 18/12/2022 05:21

WrongLife · 17/12/2022 19:15

Build a shit load of well designed, well insulated social housing such that everyone who needs it can have a house they can afford. Housing security has a significant ripple effect and would pay for itself.

heavily subside childcare - for the same reasons, eventually it pays for itself in getting people into employment.

Perhaps your social housing scheme could include a fully staffed 24 hour creche for each housing development, so women could also take shift-work and nightwork jobs.

Ladyof2022 · 18/12/2022 05:31

Every aspect of our country is a total fuck up, even the basics of life such as housing, education and healthcare. Everything has been wrongly set up and is badly managed, so I have no idea where to begin to put anything right!

orbitalcrisis · 18/12/2022 07:04

Renationalising all services and utilities. A massive council housing building project. Making the right to safe, habitable accommodation a basic right and available to all. Free university education for all. An actual living wage as a starting point and if companies genuinely can't afford this, make it clear that the government is subsidising the company, not the employee. The company should be the one claiming benefits, filling in all the forms and going to meeting about what they are doing to make themselves financially viable and self sufficient. Electoral reform. More money on NHS and education. Close tax loop holes. Ban on non-residents owning residential property. Join the EU.

Virginiaplain · 18/12/2022 07:12

Bring back Young Offender's Institutions so horrible little **s can be sent away from whoever they are harrassing or bullying for a year of strict rules and behaviour.

NewPapaGuinea · 18/12/2022 07:14

Better infrastructure to get people using cars less. When you stop and observe the sheer number of vehicles clogging up towns, it’s insane!

Ilovemycatalot · 18/12/2022 07:20

Make it easier to study to better yourself. A lot of people myself included would love to study for a higher income job but worry about the cost and how to support myself whilst studying as I have bills to pay and a dd to provide for.

Ilovemycatalot · 18/12/2022 07:22

And studying for better paid work means lifting yourself out of poverty, better life outcomes and paying more tax. Plus moving away from top ups with benefits.

Palacepicker · 18/12/2022 07:23

Aintnosupermum · 18/12/2022 05:03

  1. TV license is free for anyone over 75 and who gets pension credit ‘in the household’ www.gov.uk/free-discount-tv-licence
  2. Winter fuel payment is based on your age. Income has nothing to do with it. www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/eligibility
  3. I don’t need to put a figure on it. The amount of help given to OAPs over other groups is shocking. We all know why it happens, which is why it’s really important to vote. Why do OAPs get free prescriptions automatically when 8% receive more than £39k a year just from their occupational pension? Take a look at this link: www.gov.uk/government/statistics/pensioners-incomes-series-financial-year-2020-to-2021/pensioners-incomes-series-financial-year-2020-to-2021

I agree - it’s a scandal, why should pension income be free of NI payments - we all know that these payments are a stealth income tax. Their very nature is unfair - work over the summer as a student you’ll be forced to pay NI but you won’t have paid enough to get any state pension benefit. It’s a terribly unfair tax. And you can’t reclaim the tax back.

Ilovemycatalot · 18/12/2022 07:23

And a true living wage to reflect the current economic situation.

echt · 18/12/2022 07:36

Aintnosupermum · 18/12/2022 05:03

  1. TV license is free for anyone over 75 and who gets pension credit ‘in the household’ www.gov.uk/free-discount-tv-licence
  2. Winter fuel payment is based on your age. Income has nothing to do with it. www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/eligibility
  3. I don’t need to put a figure on it. The amount of help given to OAPs over other groups is shocking. We all know why it happens, which is why it’s really important to vote. Why do OAPs get free prescriptions automatically when 8% receive more than £39k a year just from their occupational pension? Take a look at this link: www.gov.uk/government/statistics/pensioners-incomes-series-financial-year-2020-to-2021/pensioners-incomes-series-financial-year-2020-to-2021

So not quite the implications of your claims - bit more nuanced.

How handy, having been so vague twice, you refuse to be precise.

echt · 18/12/2022 07:37

work over the summer as a student you’ll be forced to pay NI but you won’t have paid enough to get any state pension benefit

That is not true. All NI contributions go towards the SP award.

BeesAndBirds · 18/12/2022 07:43

I would like to see much better funding for mental health.

I was reading that a study was carried out in America where they offered families access to weekly counselling for a period of time after birth. The parents and children went on to have much better social and economic outcomes. More economically active, less criminality etc. I can go and hoke out the actual quote, but the book is downstairs, and I don't want to get out of bed yet 😬.

I would have mental health support at every stage of life, including easy access to high quality counselling at any and every age and stage.
In schools psycho education is built into the curriculum, teaching children mood regulation, resilience, how to identify and change unhelpful thinking patterns, identifying your values and setting goals.

I think that a population with better mental health would be a lot less likely to be maladaptive in their relationships. Healthier relationships would lead to less family break ups and extended families working better together to support each other. This would have an impact on things like the need for housing and you would get less feckless fathers leaving mothers and the state to support their children.

I have worked in children's social care and so much of what's going on is cyclical family trauma and poor mental health. Excellent mental health support could go a long way to breaking these cycles and would save the taxpayer a fortune.

People who are happier are less likely to abuse their bodies with the likes of overeating and drugs too. They are generally physically healthier, which is another saving for the NHS.

BeesAndBirds · 18/12/2022 07:47

NewPapaGuinea · 18/12/2022 07:14

Better infrastructure to get people using cars less. When you stop and observe the sheer number of vehicles clogging up towns, it’s insane!

I agree with this. Would love to see mandatory cycle paths and pavements in a 3 mile radius of each school for a start.

BigGreen · 18/12/2022 07:48

Tax assets properly. At the moment work itself is tax way more heavily. This involves hugely curbing the offshore tax haven industry.

Proper funding for insulation, starting with social homes.

An increase in national parks, help for communities to buy back land and hold it in public or common ownership.

echt · 18/12/2022 07:57

Rent controls.

JassyRadlett · 18/12/2022 07:58

Ditch the bizarre secondary education system. The idea of sixth form or college at 16 is so bizarre.

We need a broader curriculum for all until 18, including some form of maths and English for all - but integrated in the secondary school system and studying at least six subjects until 18, with the ability to mix academic and technical/vocational subjects.

Our insistence that children go so narrow, so early and have to choose either an academic or technical path at that stage is a contribution to an under-educated, under-skilled population.

helford · 18/12/2022 08:01

Heartstopper · 17/12/2022 23:07

Oh sorry, I wasn't making a serious proposal in which the costings have been worked out to the last figure. I thought this was just a thread about what one thing do we think would improve society. There have been a lot of interesting points made, and I have only skim read the thread, but not seen a post about improving things for the elderly in a way that would also benefit all of society.

The point is that its not just about costings, it about staffing and the UK voted to make it almost impossible for low paid workers to move to the UK (and build a life) so they don't and then we are all amazed we have shortages in the workforce.

Atm We are heading for a society in which large numbers of the population, previously in what was considered semi or skilled employment, will be on the NMW.

TumbleFryer · 18/12/2022 08:10

TheLittlestLightOnTheXmasTree · 17/12/2022 19:01

There should be more life skills taught in school

What would you remove from the curriculum to make space for life skills lessons?

I think schools have enough on their plates without having to fullfill the role of parent. If a child doesn’t have basic life skills then there is something wrong with the parenting, not the schooling.

helford · 18/12/2022 08:13

Frabbits · 17/12/2022 23:25

Aye, the current situation where house prices have massively outstripped wage inflation is so much better.

There is a middle ground between the current shit situation and the ridiculous one you describe, you realise. Other countries manage it.

Let me guess though, you've personally benefited enormously from house price increases, haven't you?

But yours isn't the middle ground is it, its a total collapse of the housing market, with no thought to the economic destruction that would cause.

Other countries manage better housing provision by having a vibrant competitive rental sector which backed by large social housing.

Here in UK we have BTL LLs as a form of investment as state pension is so poor, MPs vote down min standards & we have children even dying in damp and mouldy houses.

Social housing, run by local councils, not private companies is the solution, it is a proven way forward.

Palacepicker · 18/12/2022 08:14

Florenz · 17/12/2022 20:54

Alcohol is legal, quality controlled and taxed and it causes more problems than all the illegal drugs put together. Legalizing something that causes problems doesn't help, you might as well say that legalizing murder would lower the murder rate.

What happened to crime rates during prohibition that didn't turn out too well did it? -maybe you should try to compare vaguely similar situations when trying to make an argument.

freyamay74 · 18/12/2022 08:22

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How would UBI work, surely there's no incentive for me to work a high stress, high responsibility job if I could go and flip burgers for the same money but no stress and no responsibility?*
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It doesn't mean that everybody is paid the same rate whatever job they do: that obviously wouldn't incentivise people at all.

It mean everyone is paid a basic income, enough to eat, have a roof over them, just the basics, and you keep it regardless of what work you do and how much you earn.

A big problem with our current system is lack of incentive to work, certainly to work to capacity. If you can work a couple of days a week and get various top ups and fringe benefits by keeping your earned income low enough, there can be little incentive to work harder or longer or in a role with more responsibility if you'll lose the tops ups. There won't be enough differential in what you end up with to make it worth your while.

It's ludicrous to have a system which people can game. Just look at the fact that the cost of living is horrendous yet we have tens of thousands of job vacancies and it's nigh on impossible to recruit into many jobs right now.

The great thing about a Universal wage is that it puts people on a level as far as possible as a start point - it's not punishing people on benefits, it's simply providing people's most basic needs and allowing them to keep in real terms far more of what they earn on top. Even in a NMW job you'd be far better off because your wage would be on top of the universal one.

At the moment it can feel like the harder you work, the more you get 'punished' whereas the universal wage corrects that ludicrous situation

Palacepicker · 18/12/2022 08:37

It's ludicrous to have a system which people can game. Just look at the fact that the cost of living is horrendous yet we have tens of thousands of job vacancies and it's nigh on impossible to recruit into many jobs right now. No matter how much we need to employ people - someone who likes to game the system is unlikely to have the right attitude for employers to want to employ them. No matter how desperate we are - employ someone with a shitty attitude will never adequately solve that problem because managing that shitty attitude creates more problems than it solves.

Thriwit · 18/12/2022 08:44

Mandate decent minimum sizes for new-build houses’ rooms. So many people would rather buy older houses because they have bigger rooms; but they’re often poorly insulated amongst other problems. Make people want the new builds. I’m not just talking about detached houses - but semis, terraces, and flats. We really need more people in flats in order help the housing crisis. So make them a little bigger, with good parking and outside space for residents. Oh and do something about sound insulation between units for semis/terraces/flats.

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