For all those who support the strikes

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Where do you think the money will come from for all the pay rises? Are you personally willing to pay more tax?
We all saw during the pandemic it is the poorly paid essential workers that kept the country going and they totally deserve more money than the claps they got. However will YOU be prepared to contribute to the pot ?

If not where do you think the govn will find more money from?

The pension needs to change. It’s ridiculous. Scrapping the average 20 percent contribution and reducing it to ten percent would still be a very good and generous pension and then that ten percent could be paid now when it’s needed the most. Pensions like that are unheard of in the private sector, even at ten percent.

Yes it’s not a bad idea to reduce the pension scheme and use the money for a good pay rise. If public sector pensions weee brought in line with private sector then maybe wages could too.

Yes I am but I do not think believe it’s needed as much as you say . Money just needs to be allocated better . Start by cutting all expenses to politicians , let’s see who still wants to work when they don’t have second houses and drivers

Cancel HS2, problem solved.

If we paid higher wages, we'd spend much less on in-work benefits. Taxpayers are currently subsidising employers to pay their staff inadequately.

All of this.

I already pay 40% tax, dh is on higher rate. We both earn relatively well (private sector) and the government takes a significant share as they should. If we pay the nurses more some of that will immediately be returned via tax, plus they will hopefully have more to spend thereby incurring more tax in the form of VAT.

That’s a benefit without even mentioning that the increase may stop people leaving in droves and helping deal with dangerous low staffing levels across the board (actually one of the main reasons that nurses are striking). It may also encourage more people to choose nursing as a career again when frighteningly few people are choosing to do so which is compounding current staffing issues and shoring up a huge problem for the future.

Nurses are not well paid, in spite of what some politicians would have you believe. None of them would do this job for even the increased wage. I have my issues with the NHS but it’s not the fault of the nurses who remain, working in extremely stressful conditions with not enough staff. If you want to improve an organisation you start with the people.

I fully support the nurses striking and I’ll be writing to my (Conservative) MP to express my support and my disappointment with the actions of the Government, particularly given the pandemic. I would suggest that others also demonstrate their support in this manner. The government currently think they are getting away with this by making the nurses and paramedics seem greedy. Let’s show them we can see right through their bullshit.

It could all be more in line with private sector if people preferred that but benefits over pay would reduce

Most pay rises will come out of company profits, we also need to stop th eve huge companies paying minimal tax on their huge profits.

There's lots in the daily mail about 'pen pushers' in the nhs when in reality pay for admin staff is very poor for the work they do and the conditions they work in. Its also poor compared even to other government departments, then people moan candidates aren't the best. I wonder why. I'd be all for band 2 admin staff getting a rise.

if the government closed a few of the loopholes the big tech firms use they’d have more money for pay rises. OR and this is controversial - maybe the train firms could stop prioritising share holders’ dividends over paying their staff? Or the NHS could stop employing pencil pushers for over £150k? The money’s there, it’s just being given to the wrong people.

Tax the fucking rich, end non dom status and all the other privileges the upper class claims for itself as it trousers our money. Do you really want your kids growing up to work three jobs at minimum wage and still not be able to pay the rent?

We've had austerity for however long. Millions cut from public services. My own town had £197 million slashed from it's budget over the last 10 years and 30 million more to come by 2024. Where has all that money gone ?
There is not more money. All the lockdown already spent all of it. £1 trillion of it to be precise. Yes that’s right. The Covid restrictions to make you ‘feel safe’ cost £1 trillion of borrowed and printed money.
I'd like to know where all the furlough and business support money went. How much lost in corruption that Sunak didn't want to investigate ? Round here I know of local tradesmen who did very well through lockdown, continuing to work but also claim public funds to 'prop up' their businesses...lots of extensions, loft conversions and new cars miraculously appearing.

Of course you can join a union. And if youre underpaid and low income - you’d hugely benefit from its collective bargaining skills. Just this week staff from Shelter the housing charity have been out on strike for better pay and conditions.

Paying nurses better may reduce the overall wage bill

www.nursingtimes.net/news/workforce/fair-pay-for-nurses-costs-less-than-alternatives-claims-rcn-21-10-2022/

“Where’s the money going to come from” was a better Tory talking point when we didn’t know they were giving it all to their mates and pissing it up the wall. There’s enough money for them to stuff their pockets and claim their Christmas parties, maybe they’ll have to do some actual governing and figure out how to pay people for their work. We’ve had a decade of Tory cuts and mismanagement, excuses aren’t going to do it any more.

I support people’s right to strike, that is hugely important regardless whether I agree with their reasoning or not.

Also, I can’t get angry at Royal Mail employees getting more money, why shouldn’t they. It’s the looting of this country that has happened by those in government and their pals that you should be angry about.

So no answer to the question then
With Labour everything is free of course

UK now has a record number of billionaires with 177, according to the new Sunday Times Rich List. That's up six from 2021 - and the combined wealth of the UK's billionaires stands at £653bn, up more than £55bn (9.4%) on the total wealth of the billionaires in last year's Rich List

richest 1% of households in the UK each have fortunes of at least £3.6m, according to new official figures that show the inequality gap was yawning even before the pandemic struck. Second quote from ONS figures.

So if we were to tax the billionaires 1% and also tax the UKs 2.58m millionaires an extra 1% also - it would seem this could add up to £92,880 bn

Which to me seems like quite a lot of money to pay public sector workers.

1% tax extra - like they'd even miss it

Their idea is to privatise it all. Run it to the ground and then sell it off.

I don't think you know how percentages work.

Its a terrible idea!

This envy stuff of "she gets a good pension, i don't, so cut hers" is so damaging.

Instead demand more from your govt and or employer?

Yea like furlough which kept millions of people in a job and thousands of companies going
The best vaccination programme in the world

So much money wasted on agency staff where the agency gets a large % . Stop using agency staff and make it attractive for people to work for the NHS direct, increase pay, bring back bursaries and refund tuition fees after 10 years working in NHS.

I’m in that sector and DON’T support the strikes. The issue is the amount paid can now not afford basic necessities. Use the money to bring prices down for everyone, then public sector wages have a shot of actually buying a normal life. Everyone’s suffering, not just public sector and it’s insulting that they think it’s only them.

Can't do that, they'd all up sticks and move!!!