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Aibu to ask DH to not go to work Christmas party?

190 replies

xmasx · 09/12/2022 10:17

Long-term lurker, I have posted before but not for a while and I can't seem to get into my old account so had to make a new one.

To try and avoid drip feeding, I think this is all the relevant context:

DH started a new job a few months ago. He doesn't enjoy his profession and is looking to leave for a new profession in the medium term (probably about two years from now) but, for the first time, really likes this employer and his colleagues (which obviously makes a huge difference). DH is worried about looking flaky at work as he has missed a silly amount (but all for valid reason) - he missed two days when we were all hospitalised, then another single day because he was just really ill, he missed one day when our childminder was sick and then missed three days with Covid (he wasn't that ill but his employer requests that employees stay off for five days so he missed three work days and then the weekend). He's on a FTC for the first year (as is standard for his role) so needs to make a good impression. He did, within the first two days, take on an additional responsibility (unpaid) because the goodwill of doing so is important in his profession. Because of this, I have had to do the bulk of childcare (the day he took off for childcare was when our childminder missed nine days and I covered the other eight but I couldn't WFH on that day). My employer is a lot more understanding, my employment set-up itself is more flexible and my role is more secure. I WHF almost entirely at the moment and DH cannot WFH at all in his role. His work party isn't mandatory but social relationships do play a part in his profession and he has just applied for a (unpaid) promotion.

He doesn't go out and socialise particularly often (partially his choice and partially just the reality of having two small children). We have 2DC's, DS is 3yo and DD is almost 5mo - both have scarlet fever but neither is hugely unwell (i.e. not going to be in hospital etc). Because of the scarlet fever, I have been doing childcare all week and WFH (yes, my employer knows). I've had DD every day and DS Tuesday, Wednesday and yesterday (he's back at nursery today). Since we all had covid (about three weeks ago), I've developed a horrendous chest infection but our GP is (rightly) prioritising seeing children at the moment so I can't get an appointment to get anything for it.

DH fannied around getting his outfit sorted and, with Royal Mail strikes and pre-Christmas, it didn't arrive yesterday. That meant that last night, instead of going to my work Christmas party, I had to facilitate sorting that instead (I was 50% upset not to have a night off and 50% relieved because I'm exhausted). He didn't ask me not to go but he tends to bury his head in the sand (which is why he fannied around in the first place) so would've just got to literally getting dressed and realised he had nothing to wear and panicked. This behaviour is his biggest flaw so please don't judge him too harshly on this.

I know that if I ask him not to go to his work Christmas party then he'll stay at home but WIBU to ask this?

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Eyerollcentral · 09/12/2022 12:00

Could no one have minded the children whilst you went to the staff do and your husband tried on suits? I agree with a pp the way you have set up your lives seems so needlessly high pressure and complex. Why did you have to go back to work so early after having a second baby? Are there money problems?

LoobyDop · 09/12/2022 12:00

Missing your own night out to arrange an outfit for someone else’s night out takes martyrdom to a whole new level, well done.

Testina · 09/12/2022 12:01

“He's a rugby player with massive thighs, a small waist and broad shoulders. He needs to try suits on for them to fit.”

You know, I nearly said, “of course there’ll be an excuse why he needed to try things on”. 🤣

He wasn’t bothered about trying them on and having time to re-order other sizes himself though, was he?

And you know he has large thighs a small waist and broad shoulders, so 🤷🏻‍♀️
There’s only so many sizes available, so you could have bought the two most likely fit - and he could have accepted not a hand made tailored fit. God forbid he could even have looked at the sizing on line and given you a best guess for the shops near to your office in central London. It’s all just excuses.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 09/12/2022 12:03

He needs to go party because (a) work and (b) waste of your time/ effort getting the suit if he doesn't go.

But he owes you a break and a rest. And he needs to get off his arse and take more responsibility.

I'm the high earner and we could (at a push) live without his income but I'd like him to actually enjoy his job.

Are you implying that if he doesn't enjoy his job he will flake out of it and stay at home?

This behaviour is his biggest flaw so please don't judge him too harshly on this.

Well, if avoidance/flakiness is his character flaw then in the long run it's a practical question for you: are you going to let him appear to be fully competent at work by you dropping your own commitments to support him? And if you do, will that eventually mean sacrificing your career to his, and is that worth it?

fancyacuppatea · 09/12/2022 12:03

Why couldn't he sort his own "outfit"? Are his hands painted on? Is he completely useless or just can't be bothered to organise his own clothing?
YOU have facilitated him going out. If you didn't want him to go, why go to the trouble and expense AND why miss your own party to do it?
You've been a bit of a tit if you wanted him to stay at home.

Animallover87 · 09/12/2022 12:04

@xmasx surely he needs to go now after all the effort and hassle of sorting the outfit???

HelllBaby · 09/12/2022 12:08

Out of curiosity OP, do you still think YANBU, or do you now think YABU? 🤔

xmasx · 09/12/2022 12:12

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 09/12/2022 12:03

He needs to go party because (a) work and (b) waste of your time/ effort getting the suit if he doesn't go.

But he owes you a break and a rest. And he needs to get off his arse and take more responsibility.

I'm the high earner and we could (at a push) live without his income but I'd like him to actually enjoy his job.

Are you implying that if he doesn't enjoy his job he will flake out of it and stay at home?

This behaviour is his biggest flaw so please don't judge him too harshly on this.

Well, if avoidance/flakiness is his character flaw then in the long run it's a practical question for you: are you going to let him appear to be fully competent at work by you dropping your own commitments to support him? And if you do, will that eventually mean sacrificing your career to his, and is that worth it?

Sorry if I was unclear.

Are you implying that if he doesn't enjoy his job he will flake out of it and stay at home?
No, absolutely not. He's a workhorse - always has been and always will be. But, he hates his current profession and it'll take a while to set him up to do what he wants to do. I was simply saying that my concern in trying to get him to go to the Christmas party wasn't a worry he'd lose his job (we'd cope with that, he'd get another no problem) but that he's in a job now where he likes his colleagues and his employer and so going to the Christmas party grounds that more (and, if he did lose the job from not going, he may not find another job where that's the case).

Well, if avoidance/flakiness is his character flaw then in the long run it's a practical question for you: are you going to let him appear to be fully competent at work by you dropping your own commitments to support him? And if you do, will that eventually mean sacrificing your career to his, and is that worth it?
We're a team. He props me up on my flaws and I prop him up on his. No one is fully competent at everything all of the time. And yeah, my career has taken a hit from some things in our family life but so has his. Having a marriage and children and other factors will always mean you're not as committed in the workplace (however that shows itself) but we make sure we support each other for the important parts. At my work, celebrations are very regular but at his there are only two a year. So, in this circumstance, it made sense to prioritise him having an outfit for his over me going to mine. I used to do the same job as DH so there are times I sort elements of it for him or advise him on certain aspects when I could be putting that time into my work. There are also times when my new job crosses over with his expertise and he gives me advice. It's give and take - it's why I don't accept the martyr comments to be honest. In this situation, his party mattered more than my party. But, I wasn't sure whether his party mattered more than my relaxation and sanity, so I asked, it was answered and I accepted that.

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xmasx · 09/12/2022 12:17

fancyacuppatea · 09/12/2022 12:03

Why couldn't he sort his own "outfit"? Are his hands painted on? Is he completely useless or just can't be bothered to organise his own clothing?
YOU have facilitated him going out. If you didn't want him to go, why go to the trouble and expense AND why miss your own party to do it?
You've been a bit of a tit if you wanted him to stay at home.

He buried his head in the sand about it until the last minute. Suits that fit him well are hard to find, he didn't want to go, he hates shopping, he hates that he had to buy multiple ones and then return them etc so he just didn't do it. Then, I demanded he do it and (I can see from the email) that he ordered it at 2am on Wednesday morning (multiple suits in multiple sizes). He paid for next day delivery but they didn't come yesterday so he went to buy one in person (which means I didn't have the car). He didn't ask but I offered because I know that, in the grand scheme of things, his outfit being right would have a bigger impact than me going to mine.

I do want him to go - that's why I facilitated it. It's why I pushed him to get the tickets in the first place and, when he forgot, I pushed him to go on the reserve list (that got him a place). But now, after looking after ill children, whilst ill and working full-time, I'm exhausted and hurting. I want to sleep and maybe have a bath. I woke up multiple times last night and everything hurt so much when I woke up this morning. I wanted to check if I was being a pansy wanting him to save me from childcare so I could get an early night - but I accept that I should be able to cope until tomorrow, so I will.

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FlissyPaps · 09/12/2022 12:20

He buried his head in the sand about it until the last minute. Suits that fit him well are hard to find, he didn't want to go, he hates shopping, he hates that he had to buy multiple ones and then return them etc so he just didn't do it.

Wow. 😂😂😂😂

Testina · 09/12/2022 12:28

“wanted to check if I was being a pansy”

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you just didn’t think before using a homophobic slur - in fact it’s misogynistic too given the reason why it was used as a homophobic slur. So please drop that from your vocabulary.

xmasx · 09/12/2022 12:29

Testina · 09/12/2022 12:28

“wanted to check if I was being a pansy”

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you just didn’t think before using a homophobic slur - in fact it’s misogynistic too given the reason why it was used as a homophobic slur. So please drop that from your vocabulary.

I'll be completely honest, I assumed it was referring to the flower being delicate - it never even crossed my mind that it meant anything other than a flower and I've never heard it used in any other way. Apologies if I've caused you (or anyone) any offence and I won't use it in future. I genuinely had no idea.

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ILoveCreamCrackersMe · 09/12/2022 12:38

How are you managing to do all this childcare when you're posting long responses to everyone?

More holes in this sorry tale than a sieve

xmasx · 09/12/2022 12:41

ILoveCreamCrackersMe · 09/12/2022 12:38

How are you managing to do all this childcare when you're posting long responses to everyone?

More holes in this sorry tale than a sieve

DS is in nursery (like I said) and DD is currently asleep on my lap. She's breastfed and basically wakes up crying for milk and falls back to sleep so she's been almost permanently on my lap because she doesn't seem happy with expressed milk whilst she's wanting comfort and she wakes up if I put her down. I can type with her on my lap...

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Rainbowshit · 09/12/2022 13:02

FFs. He needs to go to the party for his career. He'll look flaky if he doesn't and your martyrdom over sacrificing your pastry for him to get a suit would be pointless if he doesn't go.

Flamingogirl08 · 09/12/2022 13:03

xmasx · 09/12/2022 12:29

I'll be completely honest, I assumed it was referring to the flower being delicate - it never even crossed my mind that it meant anything other than a flower and I've never heard it used in any other way. Apologies if I've caused you (or anyone) any offence and I won't use it in future. I genuinely had no idea.

I posted earlier that YABU but this PP is totally unreasonable to say you were being homophobic. Jesus!

SantasFlaws · 09/12/2022 13:10

God what a bunch of wankers you’ve attracted on this thread.

Indeed. The obsession on here over the fucking tux is madness!

PoppyFleur · 09/12/2022 13:12

OP I can’t believe some of the nasty responses you have received on this thread.

You have 2 unwell children, you are unwell yourself, you gave birth 5 months ago and you are already back in full time work and have been since the baby was 6 weeks old. Plus you are the main earner!

Frankly I think you are superhuman, you are doing your fair share and then some. Your DH needs to get bloody organised.

YANBU I completely understand the dilemma. If you have the energy to keep going for just tonight, I would encourage him to go but leave him in no doubt that he is on parental duty the remainder of the weekend.

I hope you feel better soon.

luxxlisbon · 09/12/2022 13:23

This thread is a whole new level of martyrdom!

xmasx · 09/12/2022 13:24

luxxlisbon · 09/12/2022 13:23

This thread is a whole new level of martyrdom!

🙄

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C8H10N4O2 · 09/12/2022 13:34

In effect, you missed your Christmas party so that he could go to his and entirely due to his own failure to organise himself.
If he can organise himself at work, he can find ways to organise himself at home, not rely on another hard pressed adult to mother him.

I'd be annoyed at that. If ill and worn out, I'd be grumpy about it as well.

pizzaHeart · 09/12/2022 14:15

I don’t think people are being nasty, you’ve put too much details in your post which makes it confusing. Of course, in your head all details exist at once and you can see the whole picture but for the reader it’s difficult not to focus on separate sides.
A few posters said that him going but not overdoing it and being able to help you next morning would be the best approach. And I agree with this. It’s basically down to how late he will come back and how drunk he will be. If “not very” on both counts - it’s good.

EndlessRain1 · 09/12/2022 14:24

Jeez OP, I get the distinct feeling you are quite cranky today! Hope you feel better soon 😬

xmasx · 09/12/2022 14:33

pizzaHeart · 09/12/2022 14:15

I don’t think people are being nasty, you’ve put too much details in your post which makes it confusing. Of course, in your head all details exist at once and you can see the whole picture but for the reader it’s difficult not to focus on separate sides.
A few posters said that him going but not overdoing it and being able to help you next morning would be the best approach. And I agree with this. It’s basically down to how late he will come back and how drunk he will be. If “not very” on both counts - it’s good.

Thank you - the nasty posts have been taken down. Respectfully, PPs have complained that I didn't include enough detail.

It’s not that we need an insane amount of detail, more that without it, it can be hard to understand the issue. Feels like I can't win.

He's driving so won't be drinking too much and he has a massage booked for 9am tomorrow so shouldn't be too late either.

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PinkyFlamingo · 09/12/2022 15:16

If its that hard to get things to fit him because of his massive thighs why wasn't he more organised?

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