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To think no one can name a single positive benefit of Brexit

328 replies

measuringmylifeincoffeespoons · 04/12/2022 07:49

Just that really. I'm genuinely curious. There seems to be increasing coverage and evidence of the harm and cost of Brexit. Can anyone point to a positive benefit?

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LadyWithLapdog · 04/12/2022 18:44

@TreadLight your 17:14 post is so illogical, I don’t know if you’ve read it back to yourself. The benefit of leaving the EU is that now we can see how difficult it is to trade with the EU if you are not part of the EU? 😂😂

Pascor · 04/12/2022 18:52

Clavinova · 04/12/2022 18:24

MissMarpleRocks
Luckily for me, dh & dcs thanks to our ancestry we could apply for EU passports. Eldest has worked abroad for 6 months. Got the job purely due to European passport.

Not really a benefit for you if your children live and work in a different country and you don't get to see them as often as you would like.

Wow, that's a new level of selfish. Personally I think seeing my DC living their best lives, having it all open to them and them travelling and learning, is the best I could possibly have, but perhaps you prefer to hobble yours to keep them next to you with less opportunity and adventure.

Exasperatednow · 04/12/2022 19:19

Clavinova · 04/12/2022 18:24

MissMarpleRocks
Luckily for me, dh & dcs thanks to our ancestry we could apply for EU passports. Eldest has worked abroad for 6 months. Got the job purely due to European passport.

Not really a benefit for you if your children live and work in a different country and you don't get to see them as often as you would like.

Conversation with 20 year old DD this week.
And I quote
'The problem is now that I will have to make such an investment in moving to another EU country that it will mean that if I go I will have to go and stay, whereas I could have flexibly moved abroad and have planned to come home. Its not going to be like that now'.

This is the likely outcome for many families. My older brother left for the states in the 70s because he couldnt get a job here is his field due to the dire state of our economy and never came back. This is what is most likely to happen now. People will leave and now not return. This is most likely to be my kids given their chosen careers and I'm furious that that flexibility has Bern taken away from my family.

Clavinova · 04/12/2022 20:06

LadyWithLapdog
How come there have been medicines shortages in the UK but not in Europe

26 October 2022
Paracetamol shortage: France limits sales to two boxes per patient

www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/Health/Paracetamol-shortage-France-limits-sales-to-two-boxes-per-patient

21 November 2022
Common antibiotic joins list of 277 drugs in short supply in France

www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/Common-antibiotic-joins-list-of-277-drugs-in-short-supply-in-France

Clavinova · 04/12/2022 20:08

Exasperatednow
This is most likely to be my kids given their chosen careers

What are their chosen careers? Or what field?

LadyWithLapdog · 04/12/2022 20:15

Thanks @Clavinova I didn’t know. I know it’s been dire with various medicines over here (Uk) for the past couple of years.

PestorPeston · 04/12/2022 20:17

Clavinova · 04/12/2022 20:06

LadyWithLapdog
How come there have been medicines shortages in the UK but not in Europe

26 October 2022
Paracetamol shortage: France limits sales to two boxes per patient

www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/Health/Paracetamol-shortage-France-limits-sales-to-two-boxes-per-patient

21 November 2022
Common antibiotic joins list of 277 drugs in short supply in France

www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/Common-antibiotic-joins-list-of-277-drugs-in-short-supply-in-France

How to say "I have not been to a shop in over a decade" without saying it.

Paracetamol sales are limited to two boxes over the counter in most countries in order to reduce suicides. You can ask a pharmacist for more.

Care to give us a benefit @Clavinova ?

Florenz · 04/12/2022 20:19

The country cannot be run solely for the highly educated (who also tend to be the more wealthy) who want to be able to move around the world as easily as possible to make more money. At the expense of normal people who just want normal jobs near to their family and want to make enough to live a normal life, buy a house, raise a family, go on holiday etc.

Sometimeswinning · 04/12/2022 20:40

I'd miss these posts! Every couple of months posters ask for a benefit. Everyone replies it's dire and their precious child can't work in Europe. Then someone will say they have European passports so they can. Then someone will say they are planning to leave soon as they hate little Britain. Then someone will say its England not Britain. Then there's me who thinks the EU wasn't the way forward and we already paid enough for our own politicians without the rest of them after their cut!

MarshaBradyo · 04/12/2022 20:51

Sometimeswinning · 04/12/2022 20:40

I'd miss these posts! Every couple of months posters ask for a benefit. Everyone replies it's dire and their precious child can't work in Europe. Then someone will say they have European passports so they can. Then someone will say they are planning to leave soon as they hate little Britain. Then someone will say its England not Britain. Then there's me who thinks the EU wasn't the way forward and we already paid enough for our own politicians without the rest of them after their cut!

Haha pretty much

pointythings · 04/12/2022 20:55

I'm more worried about the number of SMEs who have gone under or are struggling because of the added red tape involved in exporting to the EU. But no doubt Brexiteers will say they should just find other markets... As if it's that simple.

Florenz · 04/12/2022 21:03

Why can't the SMEs make things that British people want to buy?

SerendipityJane · 04/12/2022 21:08

Florenz · 04/12/2022 21:03

Why can't the SMEs make things that British people want to buy?

because British people won't pay what it would cost. And that's how capitalism works.

pointythings · 04/12/2022 21:09

SerendipityJane · 04/12/2022 21:08

because British people won't pay what it would cost. And that's how capitalism works.

And also producing things solely for domestic markets is very poor practice. The insular thinking of Brexiteers comes to the fore again.

Mirabai · 04/12/2022 21:11

Florenz · 04/12/2022 21:03

Why can't the SMEs make things that British people want to buy?

They can, but they may not make enough from the British market alone.

SerendipityJane · 04/12/2022 21:12

Clav is here, and sales of "c" and "v" keys go through the roof.

SerendipityJane · 04/12/2022 21:17

And also producing things solely for domestic markets is very poor practice.

I know exactly who would be the first to whinge if a country didn't buy anything from the UK because they put their own market first

SerendipityJane · 04/12/2022 21:18

Mirabai · 04/12/2022 21:11

They can, but they may not make enough from the British market alone.

But if we had more immigrants, they could buy our shit ...

LadyWithLapdog · 04/12/2022 21:19

@Florenz wow, to think that the highly educated who want to move around are the enemy, and not what you call “normal people”. To have so little expectations for “normal people”, they should just know their place, right?

PurpleButterflyWings · 04/12/2022 21:20

🙄

LexMitior · 04/12/2022 21:24

Auf wiedersehen, pet

Mirabai · 04/12/2022 21:28

Florenz · 04/12/2022 20:19

The country cannot be run solely for the highly educated (who also tend to be the more wealthy) who want to be able to move around the world as easily as possible to make more money. At the expense of normal people who just want normal jobs near to their family and want to make enough to live a normal life, buy a house, raise a family, go on holiday etc.

The wealthy can still move around as they will have sufficient income to relocate where they like - it’s the poorer people who are now blocked from living or working there they choose or where there are jobs in their industry.

It’s the poorer people who are suffering because you’ve voted to knock £100 billion a year off GDP.

HarrietPierce · 04/12/2022 21:34

It's the poor who are suffering most from Brexit.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/02/brexit-poor-people-paying-eat-debate-human

HarrietPierce · 04/12/2022 21:35

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/02/brexit-poor-people-paying-eat-debate-human

Exasperatednow · 04/12/2022 22:29

Sometimeswinning · 04/12/2022 20:40

I'd miss these posts! Every couple of months posters ask for a benefit. Everyone replies it's dire and their precious child can't work in Europe. Then someone will say they have European passports so they can. Then someone will say they are planning to leave soon as they hate little Britain. Then someone will say its England not Britain. Then there's me who thinks the EU wasn't the way forward and we already paid enough for our own politicians without the rest of them after their cut!

And the point of this post is? You don't like politicians and you don't think people's children should have opportunities? Does that sum it up?