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Watching cartoon in cafe

67 replies

Newmumcw · 25/11/2022 15:04

We went to a cafe with our toddler today who asked to watch some cartoons, we normally don't let him have that much screen time at home, but when we go out we let him watch a little bit so we can actually enjoy our meals too (we talked to him the whole time so not ignoring him).

DS had a great time but a man at the next table kept glancing at us disapprovingly (the cartoon was on silent so it couldn't be the noise that bothered him). When we gave DS some of our dessert he glanced at us too, I tried to make small talks but he just stared at DS not saying much. We felt so uncomfortable having someone glancing over all the time and felt judged.

AIBU to think he's being rude and openly judging how we parent our child? We think occasion treats when we go out is fine, and parents deserve a break too! What do you think?

OP posts:
UWhatNow · 25/11/2022 19:59

“Regarding the man - if the phone was on silent, the guy can’t have been annoyed by the noise. There is no way of knowing what he was thinking - he might just be glancing over innocently, not thinking about anything in particular or maybe he was being judgmental, who knows!”

This ^

My kids often say I have a stern, ‘judgey’ face when I’m actually thinking nothing of the kind. I might be just curious or wondering what to have to eat. You have no idea that the man was being disapproving. Shame that you judged him and then felt outrage that he might be judging you.

MajorCarolDanvers · 25/11/2022 20:03

YellowTreeHouse · 25/11/2022 17:25

YABU. It’s such lazy parenting.

How do you expect them to sit nicely and behave appropriately in cafes if you just sit down and shove a screen in their face?

There's always one on every thread.

Ginger1982 · 25/11/2022 20:17

Urgh, the screen police are out in force it seems.

VintageVest · 25/11/2022 21:07

Yeah its odd they should show up on a thread asking for opinions on screen time for toddlers in cafes.

Sorry OP I judge a bit when I see this, I have small children and I don't let them watch screens at the table as I think its better they learn to join in with the family and learn how to behave in a cafe or restaurant. I don't stare or tut at others doing it though. Perhaps the man was judging you, he was very rude to make a show of it if so.

Waitingfordecember · 25/11/2022 21:11

PrincessPoodle · 25/11/2022 15:19

I'd judge you if you sat around peering at a child who was happy, loved and fed.

This.

@KnickerlessParsons does judging other people make you feel good about yourself?

HerMajestysRoyalCoven · 25/11/2022 23:49

Another who thinks he may have had his eye caught by the screen - happens to me sometimes. Or possibly by the unpredictable movements of a toddler - leg kicking or something.

I couldn’t care less about tablets as long as there’s no running and screaming - crack on.

PinkSyCo · 25/11/2022 23:59

Maybe he was as paranoid as you seem to be and was worried as to why you kept staring at him. 🤷🏻‍♀️

notnowB · 26/11/2022 00:09

Some weird replies here. Don't worry about it, OP. We're all just muddling through and doing our best!

Chuckle94 · 26/11/2022 00:27

Sounds like you are being paranoid about it all. Your DS was watching a cartoon on silent, he wasn’t misbehaving. I wouldn’t give it too much thought to be honest

Insaneinthemembraneee · 26/11/2022 00:29

It wouldn't matter even if there was some volume; it's a cafe not a library.

Chuckle94 · 26/11/2022 00:32

Snugglemonkey · 25/11/2022 15:45

Who cares what he was thinking? You were not disturbing anyone, your child was happy, everyone was happy. What is the problem?

I think that the problem is less with the man and more with you feeling uncomfortable yourself. He could have been thinking anything, but you went to a place of judgement in your head.

Part of you thinks it's not ok to give your son a tablet. I would be interested in thinking about which part, because it sounds like you do not have a problem with it. So you have internalised the idea that it is not appropriate. Who from? It might be a parental voice, or a composite, like of Mumsnet whingers.

I would treat that thought as an intruder in my mind. Deal with it like an intruder in your house and tell it to fuck off. If you keep pushing back against it, it will weaken.

Some people are judgemental, I can be myself even when kids are running mad and parent's are "having a break" at the expense of everyone else. You were doing something entirely different and it is a pity that you still felt a sense of shame.

It might be useful to ask yourself "who has the problem here?". In that scenario it seemed like he had one, however when you start thinking about it etc, you are taking it on and making it your problem. Mentally throw it back. Visualise disapproval as an object you can physically chuck back. Actively reject it.

Don't let anyone being an arse take your joy or pleasure.

Love this advice!!

greeandorange · 26/11/2022 00:41

Maybe he wanted to watch the cartoon!

PostAndGhost · 26/11/2022 00:51

Personally, whenever I witness that, I find it sad.

Iknowthis1 · 26/11/2022 00:54

You're assuming he was judging you. You have no idea what he was actually thinking or what he has going on in his life.

This is on you, not him. He didn't do anything.

sleepwouldbenice · 26/11/2022 01:09

Insaneinthemembraneee · 26/11/2022 00:29

It wouldn't matter even if there was some volume; it's a cafe not a library.

Depends on the volume. If distracting then yes it does matter.

pizzaHeart · 26/11/2022 01:11

Maybe he was judging you, maybe he was just curious why there was no sound, maybe he was just looking around bored.
Don’t assume the worst. When DD started school I had a few times people “staring” at me and her e.g at the cafe, at the local supermarket. I did severe “Paddington stare “ in return. Then it turned out that they were staff from her primary school who knew her by sight already.

Valeriekat · 26/11/2022 20:37

PrincessPoodle · 25/11/2022 15:19

I'd judge you if you sat around peering at a child who was happy, loved and fed.

How do you know the child was happy loved or fed.

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