To feel complete support for Sarah Sands?

[mimi1962]

This lady and her now adult children have been interviewed on the news and there's an I-player episode on her. The summary is that a paedophile with a history of convictions was housed near her, changed his ID and abused her kids.

She says she wanted to scare him into pleading guilty as entirely wrongly IMO he was allowed to stay in his home and she had to move with her children. She stabbed him and he died. She was initially sentenced to three years which some idiot increased to seven. Her kids are grown now and can talk out about it. If you haven't seen it, it's worth a watch but my heart bleeds for them all.

Am I being totally unreasonable to think this lady shouldn't have served one single day and deserved our support. not a conviction.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0dj4vsx/the-big-cases-killing-my-childrens-abuser

You cannot go round killing people.

There’s literally a full thread on this.

But no, I do not support someone murdering another person.
She has my support in that she has gone through a horrible ordeal with her children and definitely something that needs to come out of this is a change in sex offenders being able to change their name. I didn’t even think that would be legal.
I do not support her actions at all though.

I agree that the law needs tightening up to ensure that known paedophiles and other abusers cannot change their names, I'd also support a law preventing them from living within a certain distance of their victims (and also schools and parks) but that I don't support murder. It's a horrific situation and the woman was clearly pusher to her limit but that doesn't excuse killing, as a society we can't go around taking the law into our own hands.

I fully support her killing her child's abusers and don't think she should have served any time.

I’d take 7 years for getting rid of someone who had abused my children TBH.

As a mum I absolutely understand why she did this.

As a citizen of a country on its knees at the moment with no prison space and police/NHS underfunding it terrifies me that people think vigilante 'justice' and death sentences are to be applauded and people should get away with literal murder.

I think 7 years is about right.

"I’d take 7 years for getting rid of someone who had abused my children TBH."

I wouldn't choose to leave my child without a parent for 7 years.

I support her actions

You can't have people killing others outside of the law. What needs changing is the legal system, so that people like her are not put in the position where they feel the need to kill in the first place.

As things stand though, she's lucky not to get longer.

Have you read about her kids waking in the night crying for her?

He deserved to die. She deserved justice. Would she of got it? Probably not.

Would he have gone to prison had he been convicted, probably not, given the lack of space available, as the above poster pointed out. Maybe that lack of justice is what drives people to take the law into their own hands. Maybe stop blaming the victims, and deal with the problems.

IMO any person committing a sexual offence against a minor should be given an automatic prison sentence.

She says she wanted to scare him into pleading guilty as entirely wrongly IMO he was allowed to stay in his home and she had to move with her children. She stabbed him and he died.

She didn't say that. She said she went to confront him, he walked towards her and she stabbed him and she doesn't remember after that.

But. She had no blood on her when she got back in the lift which means she must have taken her coat off in his place and/or washed her hands.

The context of this crime stinks, no one would think that him being given bail and living opposite was in any way fair or just, everyone could understand the pressure and anger she felt. But she killed a man and the only person responsible for that is her.

We all live amongst these people, the ones that have been caught and the ones that we don't know about. We cannot justify killing someone because the justice system fails.

As a result she had to leave those boys when they needed her most.

Understanding her reasons for doing what she did doesn't mean she was justified in killing him.

I’m in agreement with you. People are saying ‘you can’t take the law into your own hands’ but what law?! He had been abusing children for 30 decades, does anyone really believe he would have faced any real consequence? Society protects abusers and not the victims.

The fact that he’s able to change his name, relocate and still be in a close proximity to kids says it all. She did the right thing and yes her being in prison for four years impacted her kids, of course it would. However they also said that they’re happy he isn’t around to abuse anyone else. The impact of what he did to them is much greater in comparison to their mum being in prison for some years. It’s clear I don’t have much faith in the system so in my opinion she absolutely did the right thing and I’m sure she’d do it again

1000% all of this! He probably wouldn’t have even served any jail time. Fuck that

Agreeing with her actions is tantamount to saying we should bring back the death penalty - and that is a slippery slope.

I have sympathy with her and especially with her children, but I can't condone what she did.

She has taken responsibility for her actions.

I’m surprised how many people think she should have gone to prison for this( for so many years)
She was never a danger to anyone else.
She was already suffering one of the worst things a parent could suffer, and that should have been punishment enough.

Would I want to kill someone who abused my child? Hell yes

Would I do it? I hope I never need to find out.

One crime does not mitigate another. Revenge is not a defence in law.

Whether someone is a danger to other people has no bearing on the legal test of whether or not a crime has been committed.

We can't leave murder unpunished because "oh well it was only that one person they wanted dead, they're not a danger to anyone else".

“She says she wanted to scare him into pleading guilty as entirely wrongly IMO he was allowed to stay in his home and she had to move with her children. She stabbed him and he died.”

^But she stabbed him 8 times, and according no to the judges summary she didn’t call an ambulance and left him to bleed to death.

I understand why she did what she did, but this was murder and she had to be jailed for it.

Who gets to decide which crimes mean it’s fine to kill the perpetrator? You believe child sexual abuse, somebody else believes robbery or burglary because of how badly being a victim of that sort of crime affected them. Pretty soon we’d have mayhem.

I agree. It is a shame she couldn’t control her anger and didn’t think of the impact on her children if she went to jail.

I do not support murder.

Whatever her motives, she committed a crime for which the punishment is imprisonment. I feel sorry for her kids but the additional trauma they faced of growing up with her in prison, on top of everything else, was entirely of her doing.

Totally agree. She's a hero in my eyes.

Well if they weren’t locking up victims of crime then maybe they’d be a bit more money and room to lock up the paedophiles.

Less abusers on the street= less vigilantes. And most importantly, a safer world for the innocent kids.

She served four years and they saw her monthly. You’re speaking as if she served 20 years and they were only allowed to have phonecalls with her