To feel complete support for Sarah Sands?

[mimi1962]

This lady and her now adult children have been interviewed on the news and there's an I-player episode on her. The summary is that a paedophile with a history of convictions was housed near her, changed his ID and abused her kids.

She says she wanted to scare him into pleading guilty as entirely wrongly IMO he was allowed to stay in his home and she had to move with her children. She stabbed him and he died. She was initially sentenced to three years which some idiot increased to seven. Her kids are grown now and can talk out about it. If you haven't seen it, it's worth a watch but my heart bleeds for them all.

Am I being totally unreasonable to think this lady shouldn't have served one single day and deserved our support. not a conviction.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0dj4vsx/the-big-cases-killing-my-childrens-abuser

but it seems you can go round abusing children. Repeatedly.

I have to say i would do the same but I would try not to get caught. Stabbing someone is far too obvious.

Both of our innocent adult children have been rendered suicidal by the acts and omissions of tools of Satan- I still feel homicidal rage towards these perpetrators and I think that unless (God forbid) you have been in this type of situation you will never fathom the depths of emotions - irrational or not -

I don't support her actions, you can't go around killing people and getting away with it as it opens it up to others to do the same, and someone will get it wrong and kill someone innocent.

to be fair to Sands she hasn't got away with anything. She has been in prison and she has had a complicated relationship with her children as a result.

I am broadly against violence in general, but I don't think any punishment, this included, is too harsh for a paedophile. She shouldn't have went to jail.

I don't agree with what she did. Not because she killed him, he deserved it. But because she left her little boys without their mum when they needed her the most.

I agree with that.

Who would have been responsible for Sarah Sands being given a longer sentence? Like, why did it go to the court of appeal to give her a longer sentence?

On the one hand I don’t support vigilante justice. However when justice isn’t served using the official channels then people will take it into their own hands (this is one of the core reasons behind the justice system - to serve justice ON BEHALF of the victim).

so no I don’t support it but would I do what she did under the same circumstance? Yes. Absolutely.

Really? You would take 7 years seperated from your children at a time when they needed you most and therefore adding to their trauma?

Did her killing her children’s abuser help her children heal? Or did it just make her feel better?

I have huge sympathy for her and we'd all feel the same.

But you can't pack a knife and say you hadn't planned to use it. She had the ability to think through how much her children would need her. She compounded their suffering. She had time to call emergency services (for the sake of the children) but didn't.

We don't live in a society where you can do this.

But the sentencing for CA is far too light.

‘She was initially sentenced to three years which some idiot increased to seven. ‘

7 years isn’t much for murder, is it?

it’s no wonder peoples’s visceral responses kick in - and they revert to pre Romanic law ie Germanic and their justice system

Whatever you think of what she did, it’s laughable to reframe this as dispensing justice under an ancient legal code.

Who would have been responsible for Sarah Sands being given a longer sentence? Like, why did it go to the court of appeal to give her a longer sentence?

the DPP Maybe? in any case her sentence was increased because she didn't do anything to help the man she stabbed after she stabbed him, like call an ambulance. So now we know what to do if we're ever in this situation

she was charged with manslaughter not murder, i think

From news articles at the time (see BBC, 2016) it appears there were 30 complaints from the public to the Attorney General that the sentence was too lenient. This would have prompted the review.

blimey - i wonder if there would have been as many complaints if she had been the boys' dad (just wondering idly)

I do think that we need to put more pressure on lawmakers to make sure that when someone has 24 convictions there is no way they get within 100 feet of anyone fitting the profile of their victims. It is horrendous

Sorry, I’m on the side of the rule of law here.

If somebody abused my kids, id kill them

Basic instinct

I just don't know with this one, on the one hand people can't murder other people without being punished for that - it would be doubly tragic in the case of mistaken identity or false accusations (though that absolutely wasn't the case here) but I also don't think that her actions are unreasonable tbh, with all things considered and I don't think that taking her away from her children served any purpose at all - we are all human and the circumstances she found herself in were not of her making, she, like everyone else, has a limit and she was pushed to that by the actions of this awful man and the failure of the justice system - in which we are told to trust - to keep her children safe, in fact they were put in close proximity to this person and he was allowed to change his name too - that's a failure in the system and that's the real issue here, protection of an adult who harms children over protection of those, and other children.

He'd commited 24 other offences over 30 years and was allowed to change his name to protect him from the concequences of his actions while putting so many others, children, at risk. While this kind of stuff continues, then people like Sarah Sands will be driven to doing things like this, and their actions will garner sympathy and understanding from many because what happened in this case was so, so wrong. That man should never have been allowed near those children to abuse them in the first place, never mind everything that followed after his history.

That's where the real issue lies, not with this lady.

No just speaking as if the kids had said themselves that it was really traumatic going through that. Which they have.

I honestly can’t answer it as thankfully I’ve never been in her shoes.
I’m a mother and I will protect my children - sadly he wasn’t ever punished properly and enough for him to be removed from society to protect children. The punishment for him was indifferent he would just be released and the cycle begins again for another poor child.

Thats the issue here a mother didn’t believe in a system that would protect her children or other children. And in that I agree with her.

While I recognise that she had to receive some punishment for taking the law into her own hands, I understand whey she did it, and she may well have saved more children from being hurt by that disgusting specimen that she rid the world of.

I can't personally judge someone for taking some type of justice for themselves when the legal system has proven repeatedly that it either can't or won't act appropriately to protect the innocent. That man got no worse than he deserved, imo. It's a shame that her children had to suffer as a result of her actions, though.

Nobody can say what they'd have they haven't been in her shoes.
When someone smirks and calls your children liars
It might be hard not to snap.

She probably saved other children from being abused.
Alot of people say she deserved a medal.

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