To wish David Beckham and Robbie Williams would just admit ...

[strawberriesplease]

They've taken the Qatar gig for the money and screw everyone else.

Beckham saying it's to support future progress and Williams saying people complaining are doing so on Chinese technology so it's hypocritical.

Just own it. You love the money so much, despite already having huge wealth, you just couldn't resist it.

Are you going to wear a "I'm boycotting the world cup t shirt". Let everyone know.

The next one is being hosted by the Americas and Mexico. I'm sure you can find something to protest about those fine nations. Racism, drugs, gang slaughter.

You get the gist poppet, stick to ones principles.😂

I think time will judge it badly and it will represent more than just exploitation in football but a wider problem with the 1%

Yes it's a wider issue

@RedAppleGirl

Are you a man?

"You get the gist poppet, stick to ones principles.😂"

What a mysoginistic put-down.

If you're not a man, you're clearly not a supporter of women. I can see bag you're a fan of Qatar.

Yep own it. I would do the same as them.

Money talks and keeps your kids and grandkids and beyond in comfort.

Exactly - the players and TV presenters don’t have enough courage to refuse to go to Qatar.

People always fall for the zero sum application of morality as if that justifies any sort of behaviour that benefits them - live as a blameless nun or you can’t judge me. No, that doesn’t mean you get to behave how ever you want, how about a little personal accountability?

@BonnesVacances thanks for your post. I'd not heard about Kane'a armband. I've just read that the FA are willing to be fined for him to wear it and teared up (pregnancy hormones). It's the little things 💕

DB's mouth is stuffed with Qatar blood money .....

I'm not sure that's the entire truth. I think that as our wages are worth less than 10 years ago and the cost of living keeps rising, it's harder to make ethical choices. If your last top is mostly holes and you only have £10 to spend, then you won't be getting a £40 t-shirt that's been hand made in the UK with ethical fairtrade cotton.

@vera99

Just disgusting, isn't it.

@ArseMenagerie what does that mean? If I was David or Robbie with their wealth, would I do this? no.

However I'm not going to criticise someone flying to watch it or watching it here because I have taken 5 flights this year, am typing on a iphone & have shares in companies involved with Qatari money. Qatari money is all over the U.K. Where's the line between personal accountability & hypocrisy?

@Kpo58 that's a good point & our wages have seen little growth since 08 & they will keep declining. However people have got used to more quantity of something & many do like cheap. Often it's a double edged sword anyway. You buy something cheap but spend more on tax to support a business paying low wages.

What a newsflash, football is all about money and rich male footballers give not one shiny shit about women’s rights.

This is modern Britain folks. Nice isn’t it? If you’re male and rich.

Look at that poor little boy Awaab Ishak who died due to shit housing conditions. Plenty of children live in shitty conditions, to me that's incredibly unethical.

Well in terms of PR since this is what it is all about and money I would say it's a big fail for the country, DB and RW. Qatar has spent eye-watering amounts of money for no sustainable end and hopefully, DB and RW can gorge on the cash but their reputation as such as it was has taken a nosedive. Oh and that of FIFA - never been lower.

I'm not a supportive of the hyperbolic narrative surrounding this world cup.

And no I'm not a man
You most definitely do not speak for all women.

i haven’t taken any flights, I have been on less than 5 flights in my life, I am not rich enough to own shares and most certainly do not have any contact with Qatari money. I’m merely one of the idiot women workers who have to work for everything while the born rich middle class sneer. So I can freely criticise them then - and you - by your argument, and will continue to do so.

Oh fgs. People just need to stop whinging.

Unfortunately, over 6500 migrant workers are unable to "whinge" as working on the Qatar project killed them.

But how dare we ruin your football fun (when it will already be ruined by the quarter finals when England fans traditionally start their whingeing.)

YANBU, OP but who gives a shit about human and workers rights when straight, white, multi-millionaire entertainers need to top up their coffers.

Amnesty International report - should be shown before each match.

@RedAppleGirl

I can't believe a woman would use that language to shut down and shut up a perfectly reasonable opinion from a fellow woman.

I suspect I speak for more women than you do.

@TintinHadToBeMale lol "born rich", my parents were immigrants. I'm not rich at all, I don't think I'm middle class as judging by MNs that's a very English thing.

But you agree with me, I can't criticise without being hypocritical because I had to fly a lot this year (to visit family after covid).

Fans who have gone to Qatar are comparing it to Fyre Festival as the fan accommodation and areas are so bad.

Then you have Fifa's President Gianni Infantino saying incomprehensibly

'I think for what we Europeans have been doing the last 3,000 years we should be apologising for next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons to people.'

Infantino added: 'Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arabic. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel (like) a migrant worker.

'Of course I am not Qatari, I am not an Arab, I am not African, I am not gay, I am not disabled. But I feel like it, because I know what it means to be discriminated, to be bullied, as a foreigner in a foreign country. As a child I was bullied - because I had red hair and freckles, plus I was Italian so imagine.

The tournament hasn't started yet.

It will be like this every day of its duration.

It doesn't at all. I wouldn't go there either.
Robbie Williams is a cock anyway.

It’s happening in a couple of days. It’s too late now.

If you wanted to enact change about this you should have been trying years ago, not start whinging the few days before where it’s not possible to do anything.