Fed up of businesses aligning themselves with politics!

[thehorsehasnowbolted]

I was about to grab a turkey and cranberry sandwich yesterday at a major retailer when I noticed on the package that 5% of that purchase would go to Shelter.

Why are we being increasingly forced nowadays to contribute to causes we may not necessarily agree with in this way? Why don't businesses stick to selling goods? Why the constant virtue signalling? It's annoying

I do not intend to comment on this charity in particular, but I have seen my fair share of pensioners being out of pocket to evict problem tenants who were in a position to pay the rent and look after properties but simply didn't want to and just played the system.

The results of charities activities are not always 100% positive, so customers shouldn't be forced to contribute in this way.

Why do businesses assume that their customers agree with the charities they pick? The constant virtue signalling is patronising and insulting.

And as a customer, what type of business are you more likely to support?

This example shows how silly your position is.

You have no say or control over where the proceeds of your sandwich money goes. It could go in the shareholders' pockets, about which you have no say. It could go to the company's CSR efforts, about which you have no say, probably have no knowledge, and which may already fund causes that you don't support.

For once, a small allocated portion of the revenue you generate may go directly to a cause you may or may not support. For once, your attention has been drawn to this and can actually choose not to give a business your money for this reason. You are not forced to buy this sandwich. In fact, you didn't buy this sandwich.

I agree. I also am getting increasingly bored with celebrities spouting their politics left right and centre

Fair enough for Shelter, but look at it another way - how would you feel if 5% of the money was going to the Muslim Brotherhood, or Mermaids? Not that I've got anything against them particularly, but try to see it from the OP's perspective.

I would literally, as OP could have, not buy that product. And if i felt particularly strongly I'd tweet at their account why I'm no longer buying their products.

As everyone has made clear to OP already, anyone who doesn’t support the charity that a business donates to is free to spend their money elsewhere.
If their affiliations are unpopular it will be reflected in their business and they may have to consider that but they are free to donate to any charity they want and customers are free to chose where their support goes.

Tell you what, to make up for the 1p or whatever that you've been forced to hand over to Shelter via the payment you'd have made for the butty anyway, just take it back out of a rough sleeper's begging bowl. Problem solved, the universe is balanced again.

Sandwiches are celebrities now? It's PC gawn mad, I tell you!

So basically OPs argument is "I refuse to donate to a homeless charity because those absolute bastards at said charity help stop tenants being screwed over by rogue irresponsible landlords and all those poor pensioners hoarding more property than they need might actually have to abide by the law and face the consequences of their actions?"

I agree. I also am getting increasingly bored with celebrities spouting their politics left right and centre

but they are allowed to say what they like. As are we all (within parameters about slander, decency etc)

Or is it only the ones you don't agree with that you don't like? for eg is Charlton Heston and his pro NRA statements on your naughty or nice list? Or Emma Watson with her HeForShe stuff? What about Gary Neville?

Well the next time Tesco donates to the Muslim Brotherhood, sure I'll just stop buying their sandwiches.
Don't be silly.

83% of under 40 year olds want to buy brands that do good.

Unilever have found that their brands that have a clear societal purpose are outgrowing the rest by around 50%.

Under 40 year olds are also rating the ethics of a business above salary when choosing where to work.

That's why companies do it. It pays off.

Muslim Brotherhood are not a charity. Mermaids may not be for much longer.
Businesses do not choose controversial charities unless their aim is to be "edgy". They choose charities most people support.

Isaiah 58:7

Leviticus 25:35-6

Luke 12:33

Proverbs 19:17

Also Matthew 25: 35-40

Jesus said:

For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.
Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

Would you prefer it if the business just donated a portion of their profits directly to their chosen charities annually? Then the responsibility wouldn’t rest with you as the consumer? (I suppose on the other hand then you would be indirectly donating whichever sandwich you chose, whereas in the case you mention you can choose to buy a non-charitable sandwich from the same retailer).

Someone's getting visited by three ghosts this Christmas Eve.

YABU. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. If you disagree that strongly just don’t buy it and move on with your life.

No need for any of this.

Thank you, was going to comment that verse as well!

Supporting wealthy retired landlords over poor people and the homeless goes against Christian values op.

I do not intend to comment on this charity in particular, but I have seen my fair share of pensioners being out of pocket to evict problem tenants who were in a position to pay the rent and look after properties but simply didn't want to and just played the system.

I rather think that you have commented on the charity, but I'll leave that and just point out what a hypocrite you are. You object to businesses supporting charities because they should be businesses - but have failed to notice that being a landlord is a business. Nobody is renting property to others because they want to make a loss, or because they fundamentally believe that people should have decent housing. Their age is irrelevant - they are in business and businesses should insure against loss etc. And there's more than a fair share of scum landlotds of various ages around too.

But points for a lovely twist on the "benefits bashing" threads - lets blame tenants for the impoverished state of pensioners. I think I'll award a 9 out of 10 for effort; and a -2 out of 10 for being a decent human being.

Exactly @Tinner01

I really find it depressing when people profess to be good Christians and then act so uncharitably. Jesus would not approve!

You win the thread.

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OP do you get annoyed if you walk past a charity bake sale because they are forcing you to donate to charity if you want to buy a cake?

How do you feel about poppies? Should all charitable giving be out of sight out of mind, or is it just the homeless you object to?

Businesses can do what they like within the confines of the law. Or are you in favour of more legislation for businesses, just not the landlords of course?

Unfortunately there is sometimes no hate like Christian love.