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Sister: "Getting that fat would *make* me depressed."

50 replies

AppelationStation · 15/11/2022 00:47

Crikey, this turned out to be a long one!

Context: At 32 I had an emergency hysterectomy after a truly horrific 3 months of intensive care and multiple surgeries following the disastrous birth of my only child. Baby was fine.

It screwed up my body, and my mental health. I quickly hit cliff-edge menopause which went undiagnosed for over a year. The surgery left my ovaries but they soon failed. I was so physically and mentally at sea that it took me this long to figure out the symptoms I was experiencing were in fact severe, sudden menopause).

I tried several antidepressants to deal with the trauma, depression and anxiety that followed. I was diagnosed with PTSD. It was a hellish couple of years, nearly cost me my life, impacted my early relationship with my child and put my husband through the ringer. It's by far the worst thing that's ever happened to us.

One of these antidepressant, the one that made me feel least like a zombie, has a side effect of weight gain. More so than others. I was already bigger than i'd been before having a baby (had been a slim size 10, a 14 after birth / meno). After a year on said antidepressants I'm a 16. Im just over the threshold of overweight on the BMI.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the first or only woman to have put on wait after childbirth or menopause, never mind both in quick succession, surgery and depression. I'm not mad keen on my new body tbh. But I'm alive, I'm happy, my marriage is a good one and I am able to be a good mum to my gorgeous son. And my little family and I are proud of that.

So, to my sister. Haven't seen her in years (life/covid - she lives far away). She knows all this stuff has happened. She came to stay. We were chatting and we get to talking about getting older, bodies changing. I mention my meds have made me put on weight, as well as other stuff. My sister says "Well, it's stupid to have antidepressants that make you fat! Getting fat would make me depressed!".

WTAF?

My sister is, and always has been, a waif. She's tall and slender. Drinks like a fish, doesn't do any exercise. My dad has always been the same. My mum and my other sister not so much. I'm not particularly fit. I walk a lot and climbed Snowdon last year.

I feel quite strongly that it is better to be a bit fat and happy, a loving and loved wife and a good mum, than thin and dangerously depressed. At my worst, I genuinely believed my little family would be better off if I was dead. How can my sister not realise that what she said is incredibly offensive? It implies that I should be depressed because of my fatness. That, in these circumstances, I should prefer to be thin, because thinness is prized.

I'd rather be slimmer, mostly for health reasons. I miss my pre baby/life altering surgery body. I'm doing things to address that, in my own way and at my own pace. I do not need to be told my size is more important than my hard won mental health.

I just nodded and changed the subject, but I'm really mad at her. AIBU to think this is an incredibly thoughtless, mean thing to say? Should I tell her? She's much older than me, has form for this stuff, and I've never stood up to her before.

OP posts:
LolaSmiles · 15/11/2022 00:52

She was either being deliberately mean or incredibly insensitive. If she has form for this then she probably did it deliberately, rather than thoughtlessly, and it's understandable why your feelings were hurt.

I'd leave it for now as she probably wants to get a reaction from you, but in future when she makes any comments ask her calmly and directly what she means by blah blah blah.

vodkaredbullgirl · 15/11/2022 00:52

What a horrible sister, I would tell her how it made you feel.

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 15/11/2022 00:52

Yeah your sister is an idiot.
I too was irrevocably changed by having babies. I don’t miss my old body much though because this one carried my precious cargo. Could your Dsis be jealous of your wonderful family and your amazing strength of character and resilience? Because I know which one of you I’d want to chat to at a dinner party and it’s not your sister.

Dartmoorcheffy · 15/11/2022 00:53

I think you are being a little unreasonable as I can sort of see where she is coming from and it doesn't sound like she was insulting you intentionally. The way I understood it was that she's saying it's a shame that they have that side effect as that would add to the depression in her case. I'm a size 16, I've put the weight on due to having to take medication for heart palpitations, but if a family member said that I wouldn't be offended or take it as an insult.

fallfallfall · 15/11/2022 00:57

loads of people stop taking medications due to side effects. it's certainly worth discussing.

AppelationStation · 15/11/2022 00:58

@PeekabooAtTheZoo thanks! This made me proper warm-inside smile.

OP posts:
CuteCillian · 15/11/2022 01:16

Some women are obsessed with being thin. Some people have a more interesting personality. I know who I would rather spend time with.

Dita73 · 15/11/2022 01:38

Is it Mirtazapine?

AppelationStation · 15/11/2022 01:40

Yes.

OP posts:
Cw112 · 15/11/2022 01:45

Op just take a second and reread your post. What an absolute badass you are for coming through a hell of a time. Most mums find postpartum hard but you are incredible for still standing after all that. Your sister has no idea... I actually feel really sorry for her that she thinks being a side 16 is a reason to be depressed. I really hope she learns otherwise one day because what a sad standard she must hold herself to in life.

Dita73 · 15/11/2022 02:12

As you know it’s very common to put on weight with mirtazapine. I did it myself years ago. It could be changed to another SSRI but the question is,is this drug helping you? If it is then stick with it as your mental health is far more important than your weight. I gained a lot of weight with it but as it wasn’t really helping with depression,etc it had to be changed. Your sister is an idiot for coming out with something so stupid and insensitive. I would say ignore her but I know that’s easier said than done.
If you genuinely feel better then you have to try and put what she said down to ignorance. It can take ages to find the right antidepressant that will help so if it has then don’t change it. Personally I wouldn’t mention it to her. It could blow up into a huge argument and you don’t need the stress of that. You’ve done fantastically well with all you’ve been through and should be nothing but proud of yourself. If you want to lose weight in the future then there are ways to do it but right now enjoy feeling well and spending time with your partner and baby. Don’t let a bitchy comment throw you of course. It’s definitely not worth it

GoldIsMyChosenMetal · 15/11/2022 02:16

Yanbu but it reflects her attitude not your body.
I don’t know how to type this without it sounding patronising but well done for keeping going.

mackthepony · 15/11/2022 02:18

You've been through the mill 💐

And yes, tell your sister. She's extremely insensitive and rude. She should be lifting you up, not trying to drag you down. You need comfort and support

Cherry35 · 15/11/2022 02:40

Definitely it is an insensitive comment. However, I'm not sure if it was with bad intentions. Unfortunately, many people don't "accept/believe" that depression and other mental health illneses are real diseases that need medicine to help cope with it.

Since she's your sister you could talk to her and explain why those comments are insensitive and hope it doesn't happen again.

Redkettle · 15/11/2022 05:18

Sounds like she was slagging off the fact that the antidepressants which are supposed to make you feel better are counter productive because the side effects of the weight gain would counter act the positive feelings that should come from the anti depressants . Either way it wasn't a helpful comment but sounds like she is slagging off the medication and not you xxx

Chomolungma · 15/11/2022 05:24

Yes it was an insensitive comment, but I think it probably came from a place of ignorance and selfishness rather than malice. She's thinking of herself, and how she'd feel about putting on weight, rather than a judgement on you.

You sound great OP!

Kaybeeeee · 15/11/2022 05:29

I think it was phrased poorly, but is not entirely wrong. I was on mirtazapine and gained over 30kg of weight.
yes, it worked well on my depression…but gaining that much weight in a year was terrible for my mental health and my physical health.
I was switched to a different medication and whilst it is not quite as effective (for me) than mirtazapine, I have zero side effects.

obviously you have overcome huge life changing events and your priority should be your mental health, however, it is not incorrect to say that that much weight can add to depressive feelings. It is not incorrect to say that you should consider alternative medications if the side effects are outweighing the benefits.

Sausagedoggy · 15/11/2022 05:32

It's a tough one. I'm struggling with my mental health and one of the main reasons I won't take medication is that getting fat would tip my mental health into being suicidal. Perhaps she was a little insensitive but I see where she's coming from.

ghostsandpumpkinsalready · 15/11/2022 05:40

Your sister is an ahole!!!
Your alive your enjoying your baby and you are happy x
The weight loss can come later if needed but happy you is the priority x

ArcticSkewer · 15/11/2022 05:51

It does sound ridiculous to licence a drug for treating depression that causes, as another poster said, 30kg weight gain. I don't know anything about antidepressants (probably a bit like your sister!). Why don't they prescribe ones without that side effect?

I'd interpret her comment that way tbh. Presumably in fact there's a reason why you have to be on that particular anti depressant otherwise you wouldn't take it, but maybe she was just not thinking!

I do think you could tell her that you feel upset now about her comments. She may not apologise but at least might try to be more thoughtful in future

pinkfondu · 15/11/2022 05:54

AppelationStation · 15/11/2022 00:47

Crikey, this turned out to be a long one!

Context: At 32 I had an emergency hysterectomy after a truly horrific 3 months of intensive care and multiple surgeries following the disastrous birth of my only child. Baby was fine.

It screwed up my body, and my mental health. I quickly hit cliff-edge menopause which went undiagnosed for over a year. The surgery left my ovaries but they soon failed. I was so physically and mentally at sea that it took me this long to figure out the symptoms I was experiencing were in fact severe, sudden menopause).

I tried several antidepressants to deal with the trauma, depression and anxiety that followed. I was diagnosed with PTSD. It was a hellish couple of years, nearly cost me my life, impacted my early relationship with my child and put my husband through the ringer. It's by far the worst thing that's ever happened to us.

One of these antidepressant, the one that made me feel least like a zombie, has a side effect of weight gain. More so than others. I was already bigger than i'd been before having a baby (had been a slim size 10, a 14 after birth / meno). After a year on said antidepressants I'm a 16. Im just over the threshold of overweight on the BMI.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the first or only woman to have put on wait after childbirth or menopause, never mind both in quick succession, surgery and depression. I'm not mad keen on my new body tbh. But I'm alive, I'm happy, my marriage is a good one and I am able to be a good mum to my gorgeous son. And my little family and I are proud of that.

So, to my sister. Haven't seen her in years (life/covid - she lives far away). She knows all this stuff has happened. She came to stay. We were chatting and we get to talking about getting older, bodies changing. I mention my meds have made me put on weight, as well as other stuff. My sister says "Well, it's stupid to have antidepressants that make you fat! Getting fat would make me depressed!".

WTAF?

My sister is, and always has been, a waif. She's tall and slender. Drinks like a fish, doesn't do any exercise. My dad has always been the same. My mum and my other sister not so much. I'm not particularly fit. I walk a lot and climbed Snowdon last year.

I feel quite strongly that it is better to be a bit fat and happy, a loving and loved wife and a good mum, than thin and dangerously depressed. At my worst, I genuinely believed my little family would be better off if I was dead. How can my sister not realise that what she said is incredibly offensive? It implies that I should be depressed because of my fatness. That, in these circumstances, I should prefer to be thin, because thinness is prized.

I'd rather be slimmer, mostly for health reasons. I miss my pre baby/life altering surgery body. I'm doing things to address that, in my own way and at my own pace. I do not need to be told my size is more important than my hard won mental health.

I just nodded and changed the subject, but I'm really mad at her. AIBU to think this is an incredibly thoughtless, mean thing to say? Should I tell her? She's much older than me, has form for this stuff, and I've never stood up to her before.

The reality is she doesn't really understand what you've been through and still are going through. She can be flippant as in her mind it's really that simple. Does she normally have good emotional intelligence?

Snnowflake · 15/11/2022 05:55

The. Change to hormone levels can also give weight gain. I was put on estrogen blocker after breast cancer diagnosis and got a big belly.

Cuppa2sugars · 15/11/2022 06:55

i got a big belly as well from the pills i am taking for breast cancer. My family (brothers, sisters, in laws) don’t know about it as it would send my dad on a spiral downwards. He’s 98 with so many ailments. so i put up with the snide comments about how fat i look. I’m happy with a great life in all respects, and can see their flaws, i just pity them, and ignore.

Hooverphobe · 15/11/2022 06:57

Obviously

  1. she’s an insensitive turd
  2. feel sorry for her for tying up her self-worth in her dress size
SadieMai · 15/11/2022 07:48

I have had a hysterectomy at 36 for similar reasons, gone from size 12 to size 18, hated myself and it took a long time to mess about with meds to get the right one for me.....I actually see her point and wouldn't be offended as I said the exact same words to the GP when I knew my meds needed changing. I told them I'm down in the dumps but you're giving me meds that are making me fat and that's making me more down in the dumps.

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