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Sister: "Getting that fat would *make* me depressed."

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AppelationStation · 15/11/2022 00:47

Crikey, this turned out to be a long one!

Context: At 32 I had an emergency hysterectomy after a truly horrific 3 months of intensive care and multiple surgeries following the disastrous birth of my only child. Baby was fine.

It screwed up my body, and my mental health. I quickly hit cliff-edge menopause which went undiagnosed for over a year. The surgery left my ovaries but they soon failed. I was so physically and mentally at sea that it took me this long to figure out the symptoms I was experiencing were in fact severe, sudden menopause).

I tried several antidepressants to deal with the trauma, depression and anxiety that followed. I was diagnosed with PTSD. It was a hellish couple of years, nearly cost me my life, impacted my early relationship with my child and put my husband through the ringer. It's by far the worst thing that's ever happened to us.

One of these antidepressant, the one that made me feel least like a zombie, has a side effect of weight gain. More so than others. I was already bigger than i'd been before having a baby (had been a slim size 10, a 14 after birth / meno). After a year on said antidepressants I'm a 16. Im just over the threshold of overweight on the BMI.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the first or only woman to have put on wait after childbirth or menopause, never mind both in quick succession, surgery and depression. I'm not mad keen on my new body tbh. But I'm alive, I'm happy, my marriage is a good one and I am able to be a good mum to my gorgeous son. And my little family and I are proud of that.

So, to my sister. Haven't seen her in years (life/covid - she lives far away). She knows all this stuff has happened. She came to stay. We were chatting and we get to talking about getting older, bodies changing. I mention my meds have made me put on weight, as well as other stuff. My sister says "Well, it's stupid to have antidepressants that make you fat! Getting fat would make me depressed!".

WTAF?

My sister is, and always has been, a waif. She's tall and slender. Drinks like a fish, doesn't do any exercise. My dad has always been the same. My mum and my other sister not so much. I'm not particularly fit. I walk a lot and climbed Snowdon last year.

I feel quite strongly that it is better to be a bit fat and happy, a loving and loved wife and a good mum, than thin and dangerously depressed. At my worst, I genuinely believed my little family would be better off if I was dead. How can my sister not realise that what she said is incredibly offensive? It implies that I should be depressed because of my fatness. That, in these circumstances, I should prefer to be thin, because thinness is prized.

I'd rather be slimmer, mostly for health reasons. I miss my pre baby/life altering surgery body. I'm doing things to address that, in my own way and at my own pace. I do not need to be told my size is more important than my hard won mental health.

I just nodded and changed the subject, but I'm really mad at her. AIBU to think this is an incredibly thoughtless, mean thing to say? Should I tell her? She's much older than me, has form for this stuff, and I've never stood up to her before.

OP posts:
AppelationStation · 15/11/2022 07:49

No.

Well, sometimes. If she's not too busy judging.

She's generally quite judgemental. I think she believes her thinness is an achievement. Actually it's just a fluke. The same is true of other things in her life. She thinks people who are hard up have made bad choices and that she has made good ones. Actually she just married an older man who's family left him loads of money. She's never worked full time in her life.

OP posts:
Withnoshoes · 15/11/2022 08:23

It sounds like she doesn’t understand really how hard this all was for you and your family. Either that or she has little empathy. Sure everyone can have conversations around it but the comment sounded off to me than just conversational. Weight can increase as we age/ go through medical issues and so on. We have to accept that our bodies change through life if it’s not weight it’s sagging and wrinkles so we shouldn’t tie up our whole life in our figures.

You have an amazing outlook now and have come through a lot. I know it probably hurt what she said but you are right that for you and your family that bit of extra weight is better than spiralling into depression and worse. You look after you and your family and do what you need to. Good luck

Onlyforcake · 15/11/2022 08:32

She's a callous dick. She has NO IDEA that depression is more than not feeling your best. You've literally turned a corner from death being an outcome and she's having a little self preen on your sofa. It's truly terrifying that she has such a very poor self image that she cannot imagine her life being anything other than the narrow confines it is. She knows nothing of illness, empathy or actual effort by the sound of it. I'm sorry you have to tolerate her.

Daisychainsx · 15/11/2022 08:43

You've been through so much 💪 don't let her comments get you down. It's probably something you're extra sensitive of atm, and that, coupled with her insensitivity, has intensified the situation.

Shes allowed to feel how she feels, but for her to say it out loud when she knows what you've been through was wrong.

I do think it's possible that she was just shocked that that could be a side effect of an anti depressant, weight gain is something that would get a lot of people down. Like prescribing a wrinkle cream that gives you acne. For a lot of people it would be counter productive.

Ignore her and focus on how far you've come and how amazing you've done in the face of everything that was stacked against you.

BlackcurrantSorbet · 15/11/2022 08:49

How unkind. 😔 That's just such a dreadful thing to say to anybody, let alone with her knowing the full context of what happened to you and how you've struggled. She can't possibly not have known how hurtful it would be. Sorry OP.

willingtolearn · 15/11/2022 08:50

It sounds like you are very different people with different life experiences and priorities.

Her comment was hurtful, but I believe many people feel the same way even if they don't say it. Many people prefer women to be thin but mentally unhealthy (eating disordered, drug addicted, alcohol addicted, depressed) than mentally healthy but overweight/obese.

Unfortunately managing eating disorders, depression and various addictions can lead to weight gain for many people.

It would be nice if people were sympathetic to this, but the new 'I'm only concerned about your health?' is really just a reinforcement of the belief that mental health comes second to physical health.

You have come through enormously difficult experiences and sound like you are doing well with the changes that have happened to you. In time, you may be able to slow down/reverse weight changes, if that's important to you, but right now it sounds like you have enough on your plate.

MarthanotMarfa · 15/11/2022 08:51

I too had early ovarian failure after birth and surgery complications and premature menopause. Can I just check if you are on HRT? I can’t imagine that you’re not but I’m never surprised anymore by U.K. prescribing practise but that’s another story!

KimberleyClark · 15/11/2022 08:52

Your sister sounds like a total bitch.

FishFingerSandwiches4Tea · 15/11/2022 09:01

People are dicks, and unless they've been through similar experiences they forget how much of an ongoing impact illness/recovery can have. While you were seriously ill in hospital etc it was obvious. But once you were home and 'recovered' she probably never gave it much thought. It's not dissimilar to how people respond to the bereaved. Initially everyone is sympathetic, but just a few weeks later they expect you to have 'dealt with it' and 'moved on'. If only it were that simple eh?

You sound very strong now. You're absolutely right to think wtf? But meh. Lets hope she never has to go through such challenging health problems, she'd clearly find it very difficult. 💐

Wheredoallthepensgo · 15/11/2022 09:10

Redkettle · 15/11/2022 05:18

Sounds like she was slagging off the fact that the antidepressants which are supposed to make you feel better are counter productive because the side effects of the weight gain would counter act the positive feelings that should come from the anti depressants . Either way it wasn't a helpful comment but sounds like she is slagging off the medication and not you xxx

Wow OP you are an absolute trooper to keep going though all that. I'm in awe.

But I agree with the poster above - your sister's main concern seems to be weight not mental health which is rather sad and narrow minded, and her comment was thoughtless but I do think she's commenting on the meds not you, from her weight centric viewpoint. I'd treat it as a mouth fart and just ignore as you know what's best for you.
If you haven't seen her for years, do you want a visit to end with a row? She is unlikely to "get it" so I'd just put it to one side and concentrate on your own health and well-being.

DeoForty · 15/11/2022 09:17

I wonder if it was her way of skirting round the difficult stuff. A conversation about 'fatness makes you sad' is easier for her to have than any of the life-altering experiences you've recently had. Especially if, as you say, she sees her body size as an achievement.

You can be the judge as to whether her reluctance to discuss properly is because she feels things strongly and can't separate her own emotions from your need to discuss it and tried to divert, or whether she's a bit daft and would much rather have a conversation about body sizes.

Pollyanna58 · 15/11/2022 09:17

You can lose weight (as and when you’re ready) but she’s always going to be a bitch.

Next time don’t change the subject. Be factual (rather than emotional if you can) and call her out on her insensitive comments.

PinkyFlamingo · 15/11/2022 09:19

Why let her treat you like this?

ladyofshertonabbas · 15/11/2022 09:21

Yep. That is a dreadful thing to say, given the context. 😔

beastlyslumber · 15/11/2022 09:27

My younger sister once told me (at the time, a fat person) that if she ever got fat she would kill herself.

She didn't understand why I thought that was a disgusting thing to say. She thought it was fine because she was just talking about herself, "not telling you how you should feel."

FirewomanSam · 15/11/2022 09:28

That’s a horrible thoughtless comment but it says much more about her than you. I used to have a colleague who seemed to make thinness her entire identity and was genuinely terrified by the thought of weight gain and being fat. I always felt a little sorry for her but this is absolutely the kind of thing she would have said. I think those kinds of people honestly think that fat is the worst thing you can be, worse than ill or depressed or even suicidal. What a sad way to live!

OP as others have said you are an absolute rockstar and you should give your wonderful size 16 body a big hug for everything you’ve been through together. I hope you are really proud of yourself!

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 15/11/2022 09:31

She was insensitive but i also get where she is coming from.
I have stopped taking mirtazipine because of the weight gain in the past. I had ED in my teens and while I am a healthy weight now and have a healthy-ish attitude to food the weight gain it caused had a worse effect on my MH. So I would say neither of you are BU.

Afterfire · 15/11/2022 09:31

Wow she sounds charming. 😳 What an absolute idiot!

I think I’d have to tell her where to go to be honest. I couldn’t have someone so offensive and ignorant in my life.

Sicario · 15/11/2022 09:32

My sister and her arsehole husband are both obsessed with outward appearances and being slim. It's about all they have to offer...

FirewomanSam · 15/11/2022 09:34

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 15/11/2022 09:31

She was insensitive but i also get where she is coming from.
I have stopped taking mirtazipine because of the weight gain in the past. I had ED in my teens and while I am a healthy weight now and have a healthy-ish attitude to food the weight gain it caused had a worse effect on my MH. So I would say neither of you are BU.

But there’s a huge difference between making a personal choice about what’s right for you, and making an insensitive comment to someone who has been through the wringer and making them feel like shit.

mamabear715 · 15/11/2022 09:36

That REALLY stung, didn't it, @AppelationStation ?
You are a goddess. Your DH is wonderful. You worked together & got through a truly awful time. You have your little one. Your sister is a gobby idiot who doesn't have a CLUE. Enjoy your family & rise above her stupid attitude.

Soproudoflionesses · 15/11/2022 09:39

This is the sort of shite my sister would come out with - she has never been more than 8 stone and just cannot understand anyone that is.
It's really hurtful because l am much heavier than her but over the years l have learnt that it is what's inside that counts.

FlamencoDance · 17/11/2022 16:01

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Snnowflake · 19/11/2022 09:18

Lower dose eg 15mg of Mirt increases hunger - I’m on 30mg and my weight hasn’t changed

Snnowflake · 19/11/2022 09:19

Also I think your body becomes accustomed and side effects are less eg, in my case, after 3 months.

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