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To leave 2 under 2 in the house while I walk to get dc no 3 from childminder 5 doors down the road

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threeisacharm18 · 14/11/2022 16:21

Quick pulse - as the title says I have 2 under 2 at home with me now. Dc No 1 is school age and gets picked up by the childminder who lives 5 doors from us.

Should I pack up the 2 babies in a pushchair to walk 2 mins up the road to get dc 1 or risk it and leave them in the bouncer while I run up the road to get dc no 3?

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rustcohlesmug · 14/11/2022 20:27

You actually had to ask this question? That is insane.

LadyMarmaladeAtkins · 14/11/2022 20:35

I take my children to the bathroom with me

This is very odd.

That's what cots, playpens, stairgates, drawer catches etc are for. One barrier may not foil them but 2 or three should and surely you can hear* them so if they cry or go strangely quiet you'll know - go to the loo with the door open so you can hear them better if need be. They need their own room to be made as safe as possible for them for when they start using a bed or almost inevitably learn how to climb out of their cot (which they won't announce in advance by the way).

*In a household with a d/Deaf parent, things may need to be set up differently of course, to take account of this.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 14/11/2022 20:37

My DH was stung by a bee in his cot as a baby when MIL popped out to post a letter. Obviously he would have been stung anyway but he was howling for his mum for five minutes longer than he needed to be.

That aside, the risk is also to the mum. Dropping keys down a grate, witnessing a mugging, someone coming off their bike, an old person falling over - anything could happen to turn two minutes into much longer.

LadyMarmaladeAtkins · 14/11/2022 20:38

there isn't many under 2 year olds that will let their parents go to the toilet alone!

Nonsense.

OhMaria2 · 14/11/2022 20:39

Herejustforthisone · 14/11/2022 20:12

Calm your jets. My straighteners are always plugged in, as are my Christmas lights when the tree is up. What’s the problem? I have three very giant dogs, too. And a small one.

I’d leave the kids if they were in bed asleep, but otherwise I think you’ll have to schlep everyone out.

Excellent. Clap clap

listsandbudgets · 14/11/2022 20:44

I once left DD aged 2 in the flat while I took the bins out... the door blew shut leaving DD AND the keys on the inside of the flat. I was verging on hysterical before neighbour came out and pointed out she had my spare.

Its a pain but seriously OP take them with you - it doesn't take much to go wrong and it's an awful feeling when it does - sorry

SnackyOnassis · 14/11/2022 20:47

Ah sorry you're having such a rough week OP. This is the kind of quandary that only occurs to you when you're really at the end of your tether, I bet when you're not exhausted you'll wonder why it ever even occurred to you and you'll scoop them up into the pram!

Hollybobs1 · 14/11/2022 20:54

Don't leave them on their own, take them with you. I bring mine with me when I'm only nipping to my dad's next door. Anything could happen!

Chasingclouds100 · 14/11/2022 21:07

Conkersareback · 14/11/2022 19:58

@Chasingclouds100 so how do you cook, clean etc?

Why not make sure the room you're leaving your children is, is child friendly.

That's totally irresponsible, having to drag your children with you to have a pee!

Totally Irresponsible taking my young child with me to the bathroom so they are not on their own??!!! Er no - irresponsible is leaving a child alone without adult supervision ffs!

Chasingclouds100 · 14/11/2022 21:10

LadyMarmaladeAtkins · 14/11/2022 20:35

I take my children to the bathroom with me

This is very odd.

That's what cots, playpens, stairgates, drawer catches etc are for. One barrier may not foil them but 2 or three should and surely you can hear* them so if they cry or go strangely quiet you'll know - go to the loo with the door open so you can hear them better if need be. They need their own room to be made as safe as possible for them for when they start using a bed or almost inevitably learn how to climb out of their cot (which they won't announce in advance by the way).

*In a household with a d/Deaf parent, things may need to be set up differently of course, to take account of this.

Why on earth is it ‘odd’? What a ridiculous thing to say

VestaTilley · 14/11/2022 21:11

Take them with you. I can’t believe you’re even asking.

SnackSizeRaisin · 14/11/2022 21:17

I think it's probably fine to leave them as long as they are safely contained and not crying at the time. I would phone childminder to explain and ask them to have the child ready at the door, then walk down and get them, it would probably take under a minute. You can run down and piggy back the child back. I am imagining a terraced street where 5 doors isn't far. But then I leave mine unattended while I have a shower which is a few minutes and I can't really hear them if they cry then. I also leave them in the garden alone for short periods. Do other people make sure they are always in the same room as their child? Or is it the fact that you would be out of the house that is the issue? Because from a practical point of view it makes no difference.

pink85 · 14/11/2022 21:21

Um this is completely irresponsible take them with you can't believe this had to be asked 🙄Brings back how angry I felt at the mccanns who apparently could see through walls and round corners whilst leaving 3 of their very young children alone in a strange place.

Teateaandmoretea · 14/11/2022 21:29

😂😂😂 what a batshit thread

I reckon it depends how big your house is OP. If it’s a tiny terrace and you can hear what’s going on it’s no different to being in the kitchen.

if they are large 5 bedroom houses then probs you need to take them if they’re awake.

i haven’t rtft but it’s really like the ‘Baby in car while I pay for petrol’ phenomenon.

Teateaandmoretea · 14/11/2022 21:30

Anything could happen!

indeed, your dads house could blow up 🤷🏻‍♀️

StopsWalkingToSneeze · 14/11/2022 21:31

pink85 · 14/11/2022 21:21

Um this is completely irresponsible take them with you can't believe this had to be asked 🙄Brings back how angry I felt at the mccanns who apparently could see through walls and round corners whilst leaving 3 of their very young children alone in a strange place.

That’s the whole point, complacency sinks in, it becomes known locally that the younger children are being left unattended at the same time. All it takes is a slight delay at the childminders and you’re dealing with a horrendous situation.

Teateaandmoretea · 14/11/2022 21:33

Yes one fucking minute for the door to shut and you realise you haven’t got your key, one fucking minute for you to slip over and twist your ankle, one fucking minute for your child to panic and start screaming, always one minute to drown, one minute to start a fire - anything. It’s also one fucking minute to put them in the pram and walk down ….

I actually think you need help for your anxiety

Topsyturvy78 · 14/11/2022 22:10

Oh FFS if they're a baby and toddler carry the baby toddler on rein's. If they're twins chuck them in the pram. It's not like they're just next door and no different to putting your bin out.

MissEnolaHolmes · 14/11/2022 22:33

Teateaandmoretea · 14/11/2022 21:33

Yes one fucking minute for the door to shut and you realise you haven’t got your key, one fucking minute for you to slip over and twist your ankle, one fucking minute for your child to panic and start screaming, always one minute to drown, one minute to start a fire - anything. It’s also one fucking minute to put them in the pram and walk down ….

I actually think you need help for your anxiety

Aren’t you a wild one?

argue with the nspcc and the government, social service

quoted by cut and paste as follows
Infants and young children aged 0-3 years old should never be left alone – even for 15 minutes while you pop down the road. This applies not just to leaving them home alone but also in your car while you run into the shops.

as for diagnosing with with anxiety - that a bloody laugh. I used the word fucking as the poster commenting on my poster said ‘can leave them for one fucking minute’ so I responded in kind.

I find your comments rude, disingenuous, uneducated and indeed any member of social services, the police, a GP or the NSPCC says - No. you must not leave 0-3 alone and they even specifically say not in the car whilst you go into shops. In fact one local parent here was charged for leaving their child in the car at the petrol station whilst they brought a few things in the petrol station whilst the car was on the forecourt.

you @Teateaandmoretea need to stop posting hate mail and go and have a cup of tea and get yourself up to speed on nspcc guidance and the law 💐and then don’t bother coming back when you have educated yourself, especially if you are going to make rude comments and apply some has mental health issues of anxiety for errr following the guidance and common sense!

MissEnolaHolmes · 14/11/2022 22:34

Ps excuse my dyslexia before you make a nasty comment about that 💐

SleepingStandingUp · 14/11/2022 23:35

Teateaandmoretea · 14/11/2022 21:29

😂😂😂 what a batshit thread

I reckon it depends how big your house is OP. If it’s a tiny terrace and you can hear what’s going on it’s no different to being in the kitchen.

if they are large 5 bedroom houses then probs you need to take them if they’re awake.

i haven’t rtft but it’s really like the ‘Baby in car while I pay for petrol’ phenomenon.

It would have to be very tiny to hear a child choking from 5 houses away whilst the CM recounts some news or otherwise and the 6 yo is dancing round asking for a snack

SleepingStandingUp · 14/11/2022 23:39

SnackSizeRaisin · 14/11/2022 21:17

I think it's probably fine to leave them as long as they are safely contained and not crying at the time. I would phone childminder to explain and ask them to have the child ready at the door, then walk down and get them, it would probably take under a minute. You can run down and piggy back the child back. I am imagining a terraced street where 5 doors isn't far. But then I leave mine unattended while I have a shower which is a few minutes and I can't really hear them if they cry then. I also leave them in the garden alone for short periods. Do other people make sure they are always in the same room as their child? Or is it the fact that you would be out of the house that is the issue? Because from a practical point of view it makes no difference.

Well mine are 2. I'd leave them to pee/poo with bathroom door open. I let them in the garden when I'm in the kitchen with door open. I wouldn't put 2 yos in the garden, close the adjoining doors and watch telly, and I wouldn't have a shower so soundproofed effectively which never takes just 2 minutes

MysteryBelle · 14/11/2022 23:40

bloodywhitecat · 14/11/2022 18:54

@MysteryBelle I assumed that bit meant take the two little ones while she collected the 3rd child AKA DC1

Ah, thanks @bloodywhitecat that makes sense

Conkersareback · 15/11/2022 06:27

@Chasingclouds100 stop twisting my words, it's pointless.

I assume your defensiveness and word twisting is because you know you're being OTT.

To actually remove your child that's happily playing in a safe environment and take them to the loo with you, in your own home is ridiculous.

Teateaandmoretea · 15/11/2022 07:12

Do you people never have showers? That is a bigger risk.

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