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Was I duped by a narcissist - long one

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Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 09:18

I’ve fucked up. For the last eight weeks I’ve lurched from feeling rock bottom (I mean Samaritans on speed dial but never call) to feeling ok but broken.

I fell in love with a man with all the red flags. He told me he was in love with a woman he cheated on his wife for, wife then left him and took their two children aged 4&6 back to their native country (in Europe) he tried a relationship with affair woman but said “she didn’t want him”. FF 5 years of on off seeing each other I met him on a dating site. He’s tall, dark, handsome, next level (Nobel prize shit) intelligent, v powerful at a top institution - and I ignored all the red flags for that.

He told me he loved me after a few months, things were slow but good, then 6 months in he met my kids, met my mum, we went away on a weekend and had a great time. He said he had been out with his best mate but I could instantly tell he was lying. He had met the affair woman, said they went back to his, said they only kissed and he realised he wanted to be with me. I forgave him. He also told me he has mania, bi polar and psychotic episodes.

Since, I’ve been so paranoid. He started being nasty, constant micro criticisms - I wear too much perfume, I have put on weight, have I tried counting calories, I radiate stress (I have a high powered job Inc death threats from terrorists), I never met his family, or his kids, I made them a cake and he said leave it on the doorstep, I met his friends once at the start. But it was like they were vetting me and I haven’t met them since - there was a party with his friends for a birthday and I said shall I come - he said “you’re not invited”. I started to feel paranoid, I changed my hair because he said blondes weren’t his type, I stopped eating, I obsessed about where he was and it became exhausting. On the flip side he was charming, nice dinners out, we could talk for hours and hours, he was a bit selfish in bed (I came once in a year) but there was good times. He told me never to post pics of him and I on social media. I once posted a pic of the beautiful sunny day outside his building saying lovely lunch - no faces in it, he screenshot it and said my spies are watching you. I helped him and his colleagues with a high profile legal case, it was a big deal so they all started following me on social media, hence screenshot. The good things were we wrote love letters to each other and they were amazing, we laughed a lot, we had some amazing moments but,

I realised I felt very lonely in a relationship, and that he was very involved in my life but I was not his, I supported him with a lot but then a family member of mine became very ill, and he wasn’t supportive; and I received a few death threats - enough for the counter terror police to watch me, I freaked out, hit the gin too much for a few nights, I guess I was pretty awful during that time as in - I was so stressed I cancelled two dinners with him. And he said I was too “high stress and it was unhealthy”. Prob right.

He came to the house, I cooked, my family member was in itu and I cried telling him about it over dinner, he mentioned the affair woman and said that she was back here (living here) - I didn’t say anything but I glared at him across the table angry, he said you’re “radiating stress, I’m on eggshells with you” and I’m going to bed to avoid you.

FF a week and he said he was hosting a reception for the queens memorial. I said I’ll come along, he said we need to go for a walk and talk so no, I freaked out. My daughter went to the memorial and he was there with another woman - although he says she was not the affair woman I have a photo and it looks like her.

We had a huge argument on the phone and then I ignored him for two days, met for a walk, he said you’ve got it all so very wrong, I love you but I have had enough of your paranoia.

He also said I don’t handle high stress well - true, and that I’m “not healthy”. We agreed to break up. I wrote him a letter apologising for being too stressful and paranoid, he wrote back saying good luck with your life. We haven’t spoken in 5 weeks but I’m now having some sort of awful breakdown. I have never felt so un attractive, paranoid, he’s made me feel insane, I’m scared to post anything on social in case he’s watching, I cry a lot when I wasn’t even happy with him a lot of the time, I’ve lost every ounce of confidence. 4 weeks on and I saw a pic pop up on my timeline from his friend with them out at a dinner and he’s with someone completely different and new.

my family member recovered and my work is less stressful again but I feel like I’ve lost myself and the last year is a blur and yet all I
doing is sobbing to have him back. I am posting here because I have children I love and an amazing job, but I’m spiralling and I really don’t know wtf is happening to me. Why have I let this man destroy me? I love him and even that is fucked up when he was so nasty to me a lot of the time, yet so very charming some of the time.

my friend says that is narcissism - I’ve lost myself. Please help me mums, I feel like he’s standing on my chest and it’s draining the life from me.

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MichelleScarn · 11/11/2022 09:21

Only 6 months in and he's meeting your kids and parents? He absolutely sounds like he lovebombed you!

Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 09:22

Gosh, that was hard writing that. Sorry it’s awfully written, long and a bit poor me. But, Christ that was hard.

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Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 09:22

What is love bombed?

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LiamNeesonIsADerryGirl · 11/11/2022 09:24

Please do not blame yourself OP, you have not LET him destroy you.

adiosamigoo · 11/11/2022 09:25

Yes he absolutely sounds like one.

Musti · 11/11/2022 09:28

He sounds like a gaslighting cheating boring prick. Forget him and don’t dwell on anything he said to you.

America12 · 11/11/2022 09:28

Remove him and all his friends from social media for a start. Sounds like a lot of bullshit - he was vile to you why would you do that to yourself?

notmyrealmoniker · 11/11/2022 10:04

Didn't read it all. The first few paragraphs were enough to know he is an utter knob. Just walk away

littleburn · 11/11/2022 10:06

I really feel for you OP. I've been in a similar situation - high flyer with a great family, great job etc etc - and that one person got in to the very root of me, turned my life upside down and left me feeling exactly as you're describing.

What I would say is, despite all the great things in my life, I was very vulnerable emotionally and so I lacked some key emotional and mental self-protection. I desperately needed to feel loved and so, when the love bombing started, I welcomed this person in with open arms and total disregard for red flags and boundaries. Then the hot and cold behaviour started and then the discard. Then the realisation that he did in fact love me and it all started again. Basically he had me jumping around like a puppet on a string for more years than I'm comfortable admitting.

Now if you're emotionally vulnerable but you're dealing with a decent person that's one thing. But being that vulnerable with a toxic/narcissistic person is devastating. They are 100% in it for what they can get for themselves, their empathy for others (i.e. you!) is low to non-existent and they will seek out multiple sources of 'supply'. So from what you describe I would say yes, this person is a narcissist and you're not crazy or stupid, but you probably have an emotional vulnerability that means the behaviour of someone with narcissistic traits is absolutely toxic to you and your well-being.

I'm still trying to put myself properly back together and I certainly don't have all the answers. But what I do know is that he isn't the answer to you feeling better, so don't get back on that highest highs/lowest lows cycle when he inevitably gets back in contact. You need to think of him as toxic to you and really, really focus on healing yourself and getting calmness and stability back into your life. It's also really easy to fall down an internet rabbit hole of reading up on narcissism. Some research and analysis is good and helpful so that you understand what you were dealing with. But it's easy to get sidetracked into psychoanalysing him (and therefore continuing the obsession), when you really need to focus on getting back to you.

One resource I found that was a very helpful tool in my recovery (in that it's focused on you rather than diagnosing the narcissist) was Natasha Adamo's 'How to win your break up'. The title is a bit trite, but it's all about recovering and moving on from toxic relationships. Might be a starting point. Therapy with a counsellor in narcissistic abuse recovery has also helped me a lot, especially as it can be so difficult to discuss with friends and family.

Flowers for you. It's hard, but you will get through this.

Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 10:43

Thanks @littleburn

should you block narcissists on WhatsApp / socials? Also a friend of his has tried to add themselves to my socials - Facebook - insta - followed my business accts on twitter, block them too or ignore them??

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littleburn · 11/11/2022 10:47

Yes block them and their friends on everything!

beonmywaythen · 11/11/2022 10:52

Being amazing (high flyer etc) doesn't allow him to treat you like shit. You deserve better. Block him and find someone who will treat you well.

Shelaydownunderthetable · 11/11/2022 11:06

Brilliant advice and insight from littleburn.

OP, you’re going to get through this and with time you’ll be able to see what’s happened more clearly. Right now it’s normal for things to all feel like a painful, confusing muddle.

For now, take some deep breaths and start to get your house in order. Block him and his friends on all platforms. Block his number. Start the process of finding a therapist who can work through some of this with you. I know this sounds trite but maybe look into learning about meditation or mindfulness to get out of your head a bit. Do the things you need to do to nurture yourself and your family. You’ve got this!

MyCrumpetIsCold · 11/11/2022 11:10

Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 10:43

Thanks @littleburn

should you block narcissists on WhatsApp / socials? Also a friend of his has tried to add themselves to my socials - Facebook - insta - followed my business accts on twitter, block them too or ignore them??

I think it’s probably in your best interests to block all associations with him, so information can’t be fed back to him.

Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 11:13

Yes - I’ve been trying meditation. I know it sounds crazy but I’m a bit scared of them. They’re super powerful people and I feel like they’re all watching me - they like my posts on work stuff that is my job and it’s really creepy

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bibliomania · 11/11/2022 11:18

It's hard, but you will get through this, oil. You're going through cold turkey, and eliminating the toxins from your system. One day you'll realize he's a small little man who tried to make himself feel big by trampling over you.

Georgeskitchen · 11/11/2022 11:47

I agree block him and all his friends and anyone connected to him. He sounds horrible please Don't let him back into your life

KettrickenSmiled · 11/11/2022 12:08

OP obsessing over whether he is a narcissist or not will do you no good whatsoever.

I'm going to be really blunt here, because in order to get yourself past this, you need to realise that "was I duped by a narc" was the wrong question.

The correct question is "WTF has happened in my life that I accepted a lying, cheating bully who has mania, bi polar and psychotic episodes into it?"

Block him, block his friends, & start work on YOURSELF.
This might be a good starting point - www.verywellhealth.com/trauma-bonding-5210779

You cannot heal until you have made yourself entirely separate from this shark.
So - BLOCK on all comms, leave no chinks in your armour.
Then work on your recovery & healing.
Dr Ramani is insightful, compassionate & switched-on -
doctor-ramani.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorRamanDurvasula
Again - this is NOT about whether your ex is a narc or not - it's about how YOU get to heal from the mindfuckery you've been exposed to.

Please also access some in-person counselling with a therapist who is experienced in abusive relationships, including origin family relationships. You can also begin to uncover the answers to the "correct question" - ("WTF has happened in my life that I accepted a lying, cheating bully who has mania, bi polar and psychotic episodes into it?") - which are likely to stem from your own early background. Pay for this if you can afford to - if not, visit your GP & ask for signposting/referrals to NHS-supported agencies.

I hope you find this post helpful OP, as I know I've shot straight from the hip here & it must be hard to read. So please let me be very clear - NONE of this is a criticism of you. I have been where you were/are, & it all boiled down to loss of self esteem due to adverse childhood experiences. So ... you have a lot to unpick here, but look at it this way:
If you put HALF the energy you poured into navigating that appalling relationship INTO YOURSELF, within 6 months you will be healing well, & within a year, you will be past this terrible feeling of I’ve lost myself. Please help me mums, I feel like he’s standing on my chest and it’s draining the life from me.

Remember - you are not "in love" - you are Trauma Bonded .
Give yourself a year off romance. Put all your energy into yourself, & not this worthless man or his jackass friends.
You are worth that time. You are worth investing in.
You can heal from this, using tools like the ones linked above, & by accessing counselling JUST FOR YOURSELF. You need to break that Trauma Bond, & allow yourself to love yourself. Rebuild your self-esteem. Set your own life goals. Enjoy progressing toward them. Experience joy.
You will have NONE of that while you are being abused by this toxic man, or any other. So steer clear of relationships until you have created your own recovery plan & are able to understand the psychology that pushed you into accepting this man's bluster, cruelty & deliberate mindfucking.
Flowers

KettrickenSmiled · 11/11/2022 12:14

Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 11:13

Yes - I’ve been trying meditation. I know it sounds crazy but I’m a bit scared of them. They’re super powerful people and I feel like they’re all watching me - they like my posts on work stuff that is my job and it’s really creepy

Money, intellect & privilege don't make people 'powerful'. It just gives 'em clout to bully others with.

True power comes from the self.
You will find your own power OP.

btw - of course you feel 'watched'. You have been treated like a lab specimen in a jar. It's natural to feel self-conscious, to the point of a little paranoia ... don't let that feeling worry you, it is your gut instinct, creaming "RUN!!!" at you.
Heed it - & block ALL those nasty fuckers.

And as you block - feel yourself taking back your power. Every keystroke is protecting you, removing you from these people's orbit. Do it today OP!

Well done with the meditation 😀that is a really helpful & positive thing to do for yourself.

Heronwatcher · 11/11/2022 12:20

You’ve had a lucky escape. Really. You should be thankful and you will be in the long term. Yes he sounds like a gaslighting, negging, selfish cheat and borderline psychotic.
Block/ unfriend him and all his mates. Dye your hair back. Wear as much perfume as you want. Eat what you want. Love your kids and reconnect with other friends. You’ll feel a bit shit for a while but if you want to you’ll find someone much better, if not you’ll have a happy life without him.

Justwalkthissideplease · 11/11/2022 12:26

Dr Ramani on youtube. Just listen to all the episodes. It will all start making sense. Its not your fault!!

Babochan88 · 11/11/2022 12:55

I’m so sorry this has happened to you. Please watch gaslight the movie - he’s basically done the same. Unfortunately there are so many narcissists these days, I don’t know why.

Regardless of your behaviour, drunk or not. You did not deserve this. You deserve someone equally as invested in you as you are with them.

please believe that you WILL HEAL AND GET BETTER FROM THIS. I promise. So many of us have been wrecked by narcissists. But time really is a healer - it may be a long and painful process but you will heal.

This is the time to plug back into yourself and do the things you enjoy. But please seek therapy. I’ve helped countless of people who’ve developed severe mental health issues because of staying in persistently toxic and traumatic relationships. Whether familial or romantic etc. it’s imperative that you fight for life, joy, yourself and your family.

you deserve the world, I’m rooting for you xx

Oilofpetunia · 11/11/2022 14:33

Thanks that helps a lot. I can’t believe it, you’re all so certain and I’ve been constantly psycho analysing my every move to try and work out what went wrong, I am going to listen to the YouTube person. And will block him. And his friends / institution connections as they’re all over my every move and you’re right it does feel like I’m a lab specimen

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KettrickenSmiled · 11/11/2022 14:53

I can’t believe it, you’re all so certain and I’ve been constantly psycho analysing my every move to try and work out what went wrong

That uncertainly Oil ... it's not you, it's him.
He waged a deliberate campaign to destablise you. Men like this always do. They LIKE you feeling uncertain.

Your own certainty will return, don't worry.
All us PP who've been were you are were made uncertain too.
We did the work, we learned how to avoid sharks, & now we kick arse 😂
You will too ...

www.jennisspace.com/the-shark-cage-metaphor-spotting-potential-abusers/

Herejustforthisone · 11/11/2022 15:05

He’s a liar and an abusive cunt. And possibly a psychopath.