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To be sick to the back teeth of fashionable words...

239 replies

Funkyblues101 · 10/11/2022 11:01

"Empathy", "iconic", "brutal" and now "visceral". The hottest words for the bandwagon jumpers.
The use of trendy words put me off a person. Anyone else or is it just me?

OP posts:
MasterBeth · 04/05/2023 09:57

Language evolves.

Young women are the most enthusiastic speakers of new words and new uses.

The words and forms you think are fashionable now are replacing some of the words and forms that were fashionable when you developed your personal lexicon. You're just old-fashioned.

Emdubz · 04/05/2023 10:07

There’s a phrase in my workplace that irritates the hell out of me.

Instead of using ‘I think’, people use ‘I want to say’.

E.g. “what time is the meeting?”
” I want to say 3pm”

”Is Joe in today?”
”I want to say he is”

What is this?? I never heard people talk like this until I started working there.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 04/05/2023 10:11

Sure MasterBeth, let me reach out to you and signpost you to Pedants' Corner where I'm sure you can gift them some of your new linguistic paradigms while curating the new English for us all, they will be decimated by your knowledge on this subject.

Talking as if regurgitating a badly written textbook on management principles is annoying new fashioned or not.

MasterBeth · 04/05/2023 10:48

DemonicCaveMaggot · 04/05/2023 10:11

Sure MasterBeth, let me reach out to you and signpost you to Pedants' Corner where I'm sure you can gift them some of your new linguistic paradigms while curating the new English for us all, they will be decimated by your knowledge on this subject.

Talking as if regurgitating a badly written textbook on management principles is annoying new fashioned or not.

Of course it's annoying. It's probably as annoying for you as your speech as as a younger woman was annoying for your elders.

But if Mumsnet was around 20 or 30 years old, we'd be having the same conversation about your new-fangled words.

ToWhitToWhoo · 04/05/2023 10:57

My pet peeve is 'deliver' when not used of post or packages; teachers 'deliver the curriculum'; we all 'deliver outcomes'; etc. And, even worse, 'deliverables'.

'Journey' when it doesn't involve actual travelling.

'Making memories.'

ToWhitToWhoo · 04/05/2023 11:01

Charlllesanoyedme · 10/11/2022 14:25

Snowflake used to disrespect the younger generation. Anyone who uses that word has lost the argument I am afraid.

I agree! And the sneering use of 'woke' and such terms as 'wokery' and 'wokerati'. On the other end of the political spectrum. 'gammon'

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/05/2023 13:16

‘Early doors’ which I’ve just seen elsewhere on MN. WTF is the ‘doors’ bit for?
Who the hell dreamed that one up?

When I’m a dictator I will have such people put in the stocks outside Tesco and pelted with ordure.

BitOutOfPractice · 04/05/2023 17:57

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER it means “as soon as the doors open” and used, in my day, when pubs closed for a few hours in to e afternoon, to mean getting to the pub as soon as the doors opened at 5pm for the evening session.

Does that make you feel less rage?

newnamethanks · 04/05/2023 18:04

Reach out. Rushed a child to A&E. Adorable, Daily Mail is obsessed with the word and also with VERY. Other descriptors are available, journalists. I expect you recall from doing your degree. So many . . .

newnamethanks · 04/05/2023 18:05

And, of course, Coronation, and all the related guff.

Willowtre1 · 04/05/2023 18:26

To have gotten the ick is a new one I see all the time that is annoying

Daleksatemyshed · 04/05/2023 18:30

@ToWhitToWhoo I'm on your side, I hate journey with a passion. Most days I take a bus to work, that's a journey!

DatasCat · 17/05/2023 09:06

Another word I hate is ‘pins’ for legs. As in ‘perfect pins’. It’s patronising advertising/fashion language. Besides, my legs are not pins; they are short rough stumpy tree trunks that certain trouser styles struggle to accommodate.

Notjustanymum · 17/05/2023 09:13

It’s “fed up to the back teeth” in my neck of the woods! Yes - it’s oddly jarring when words become trendy but inevitable, what with social media being a thing…

Gtsr443 · 17/05/2023 09:14

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/05/2023 13:16

‘Early doors’ which I’ve just seen elsewhere on MN. WTF is the ‘doors’ bit for?
Who the hell dreamed that one up?

When I’m a dictator I will have such people put in the stocks outside Tesco and pelted with ordure.

It refers to pub opening times and is beloved by football commentators and has been around for decades.

CoffeeCantata · 17/05/2023 09:56

Please, people, don't lecture us on how language evolves! That's missing the point - we know it does - this is just a chance to vent about irritating modish and trendy things as people must have done since time immemorial.

I'm currently irritated by:

'narrative' - to mean 'version'. eg according to the Tory/left/feminist etc narrative

'speaks to' - which baffles me completely because I think they must mean 'speaks of'?? eg This novel speaks to the issue of feminist struggle

Present tense being used about historical events. Just no!

OK, I do watch lots of documentaries and read articles about history/sociology/politics etc and it seems the whole world of academia is absolutely awash with these annoying fashions.

I'll restrain myself and stop here.

echt · 17/05/2023 10:24

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/05/2023 13:16

‘Early doors’ which I’ve just seen elsewhere on MN. WTF is the ‘doors’ bit for?
Who the hell dreamed that one up?

When I’m a dictator I will have such people put in the stocks outside Tesco and pelted with ordure.

It was commonly said in my NW England childhood. I'm 68.

Also an excellent sit-com.

Snowontheroof · 17/05/2023 10:39

DatasCat · 17/05/2023 09:06

Another word I hate is ‘pins’ for legs. As in ‘perfect pins’. It’s patronising advertising/fashion language. Besides, my legs are not pins; they are short rough stumpy tree trunks that certain trouser styles struggle to accommodate.

"Pins" has been slang for legs for about 500 years. You must have been looking at some very ancient advertising 😁

Gtsr443 · 17/05/2023 10:46

Also an excellent sit-com.

It was wasn't it @echt ? They did a live show version too. 20 years old now.

I love people thinking a very common northern expression that has been used by millions for decades is suddenly "modish".

MasterBeth · 17/05/2023 10:56

CoffeeCantata · 17/05/2023 09:56

Please, people, don't lecture us on how language evolves! That's missing the point - we know it does - this is just a chance to vent about irritating modish and trendy things as people must have done since time immemorial.

I'm currently irritated by:

'narrative' - to mean 'version'. eg according to the Tory/left/feminist etc narrative

'speaks to' - which baffles me completely because I think they must mean 'speaks of'?? eg This novel speaks to the issue of feminist struggle

Present tense being used about historical events. Just no!

OK, I do watch lots of documentaries and read articles about history/sociology/politics etc and it seems the whole world of academia is absolutely awash with these annoying fashions.

I'll restrain myself and stop here.

I have spent a lot of my life "venting about irritating modish and trendy things" because it made me feel like I have standards, understanding and tastes which are superior to those of other stupid and ignorant people.

As I get older, I see that it's not only fruitless (the world will change whatever I think of it) but also based on a fallacy (that the standards and tastes that I developed when young have any objective superiority to those of a younger generation).

It's very easy as you get older to see almost everything in the world as some modish and trendy imposition. It's not. Letting this stuff go can be quite liberating.

echt · 17/05/2023 10:58

Gtsr443 · 17/05/2023 10:46

Also an excellent sit-com.

It was wasn't it @echt ? They did a live show version too. 20 years old now.

I love people thinking a very common northern expression that has been used by millions for decades is suddenly "modish".

I have it on DVD. Smile

That aspect of seeing older language use as "modish" got me in the later years of teaching, when students would guffaw if I used the word "banter". It's as if they owned it. Hmm

DatasCat · 17/05/2023 13:09

Snowontheroof · 17/05/2023 10:39

"Pins" has been slang for legs for about 500 years. You must have been looking at some very ancient advertising 😁

I don’t care how long it’s been around. I hate the word. And I hate how it’s used today. Nobody said this had to be rational! 😂

CoffeeCantata · 17/05/2023 16:21

MasterBeth
I have spent a lot of my life "venting about irritating modish and trendy things" because it made me feel like I have standards, understanding and tastes which are superior to those of other stupid and ignorant people.

As I get older, I see that it's not only fruitless (the world will change whatever I think of it) but also based on a fallacy (that the standards and tastes that I developed when young have any objective superiority to those of a younger generation).

It's very easy as you get older to see almost everything in the world as some modish and trendy imposition. It's not. Letting this stuff go can be quite liberating.

Yes but don't worry - I'm not really angry - only irritated! I'm just contributing to a discussion on a topic which interests me.

I think it's because it's difficult to get across the appropriate tone in an internet forum with no body language/tone of voice/facial expression etc. My attitude to irritating language is to laugh at it and roll my eyes - I certainly don't waste any calories on getting angry. But I do judge people who adopt these expressions as I would anyone I suspect of parroting or just wanting to be trendy. The ones I've picked make no sense to me. I asked my son (an academic) about 'speaks to' and he admitted it was bonkers but it's just the 'in phrase'.

I

Mercurial123 · 17/05/2023 17:06

Adore seems to be really popular on MN. It seems a bit OTT when talking about a dress. And cheering is just annoying.

IglesiasPiggl · 17/05/2023 17:16

I don't like the gushing use of "treasured". There was a woman on our local FB group asking if anyone has seen her DSs football, which was apparently "a treasured gift from Granny". So "treasured" he took it to a big public park and kicked it over the boundary fence!

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