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Am I living in dreamland... another marriage thread!!

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AreWeDancer1 · 09/11/2022 15:40

Hello Mumsnetters

I have read so many separation / divorce threads over the last few months which have been very comforting.

So here goes, I have been married to my husband for 6 years (very short marriage) but together 11 years. We met when I was 19, him 22. It was a happy, fun relationship and we got on great. As the years went by, and real life kicked in (i.e. we both started working), things changed, I changed. I want silly things like to go to a pub together, to go out for dinner and talk, to have a few glasses of wine at the weekend, listen to music.. not much! My husband, since starting his job many years ago, has become very grumpy and has quite a sharp tongue. He does things that really annoy me, which I have spoken about. For example, if we go out with family or friends, he takes off his jacket and throws it at me while I am sitting down and he laughs - it's clearly a joke but I dont find it funny. In the past, I have also spoken to him before meeting family (as he sits on his phone or he is rude to my dad) and friends (he makes rude comments about me or tries to prove me wrong at every chance he gets)... he says he walks on eggs shells around me.

We have stopped having sex too, and this is embarrassing but I have inverted nipples, which I hate and feel very self-cautious about. I have shared how I feel with him, during sex he would show my breasts lots of attention, which I hate. I spoke to him several times and told him not to do this, and why. He would ignore me each time and say he didnt realise, again, when I say to him, he says I am putting up "barriers", or I've killed the mood.

He rarely wants to do anything, and wants to be in bed and get up early everyday, except when he spends time with his friends. I have since told him I am unhappy and he got defensive. He keeps reminding me how he bought me flowers every a few months ago, and I "didnt appreciate them" and how he "hoovers" and I dont. Whenever I remind him that its exhausting to food shop all the time, think of dinner ideas, cook, and then wash up, everynight, all he says, bitterly is "thats all you have to say, you have nothing on me!!" and that pisses me off.

I have went to counselling the last few months and he blames me for everything. I told the counsellor, and him, that we cant keep doing this and that I wanted change in the next few weeks. So, I gave him a list of options to have a date night together; lets go get dinner, lets go to this new trendy cocktail bowling place, lets go to the comedy club etc. He has strongly suggested we go to the cinema instead... which we used to love as students but.. to sit in silence?! I have agreed as I am always said to be "putting up barriers"

Here is the part I will be shot down for. I met someone randomly 6 months ago. He is good looking, genuinely wants to know about my day, texts asking about my plans, etc. I told him a white lie, I said I was going through a separation with my husband, and I didn't have headspace to pursue anything with him. He totally respected this. But, I missed him and decided to ask him out for drinks. We had a great night, conversation wasn't awkward, tons to say to each other. When I think of him, I smile. He has asked if I would like to date after all the complications of separation has formalised; I panicked and said yes, and he has planned a dinner for in a few weeks' time. He said I have been going through a tough time (he is seperated and knows what I am "going through") and wants to treat me to dinner and he said he will go at whatever pace I want to. He said he thinks I am very special, and I am worth waiting for. I've told him I need a break from talking as I have too much stuff going on. I wanted to see if things with my husband could work, and didnt want the thought of this other guy blurring that.

So, my husband and I went away with family a few weeks later, and after dinner one night, we all went next door to the local bar, my husband said he was tierd and went back to the lodge, said he wanted to be alone - this was 930pm. I was really hurt. I wanted to be told I looked nice, I put in alot of effort to get dressed up, treated like a date night, I wanted him to stay, I wanted him to dance with me, talk to me, laugh with me. I asked him to stay for a bit longer and he just said, "no, I'm tired, sorry". My mum has been concerned about me for sometime now and keeps saying I have lost my sparkle and comments often how i am not happy in my marriage and that I am young and only get one life.

I ended up meeting this other man last night for drinks, and for company too. Anyway, I met the other guy, with the intention of telling him that we cant speak anymore. I didnt say it directly. But I was very horrible to him. I wanted him to say it, to make it easier. But he didnt, he wanted to talk, find out what was wrong, and got upset with all my mixed messages. I felt horrible. I got on the train home and cried. I genuinely really care for him. He wants to be with me. I want to be with him. Yet, I feel trapped in a marriage where I dont know how long I should keep trying. My inlaws have since removed me from a family whatsapp group after telling their son (my hubby) I was unhappy and have ignored me since. My PT, who I have seen since July, also commented "do you and your husband spend anytime together" after asking my weekend plans, and that made me sad and embarrassed.

For context, I havent slept with this other man, haven't done anything with him really. We have been out twice over the course of a few months and have kissed a few times, when saying goodbye, not that it makes it better. I know that makes me a cruel person, but I want love.

Anyway, if youve read all of this, thank you.

Would I be unreasonable to leave my marriage and just date this other guy - my marriage troubles arent new, and I think I deserve some happiness, I wouldnt be leaving DH for OM, I would be single and just date, take things slowly.

Or

I am being unreasonable, stay and work it out, and block this other guy

OP posts:
Purpleavocado · 09/11/2022 15:44

I must admit I skimmed a bit... but it sounds like you have grown apart, and don't have any really compelling reasons to continue the marriage. The new man may not work out long term, and I'd take him out of your thought process. You do need to think about whether you want to continue in this marriage.

slinkymalinkys · 09/11/2022 15:45

bin him

IfIGoThereWillBeTrouble · 09/11/2022 15:50

Ditch both of them and spend some time on your own.

Blueberrywitch · 09/11/2022 15:51

Leave your husband and date other guy. Stop feeling guilty you only have one life.

Want2beme · 09/11/2022 15:51

As is often said here, you don't need a reason to leave, just wanting to is enough. From the sound of it, your H doesn't want the same relationship that you do. Ask him what he wants to do about this to see if you have a future together.

AryaStarkWolf · 09/11/2022 15:52

Just call it a day, you were clearly both too young when you got together and have grown into two very different personalities that don't seem compatible anymore

Blueberrywitch · 09/11/2022 15:53

But also know that second guy will probably be a rebound fling and you might end up single, so enjoy that phase and get to know yourself, date lots of people and see what you really want. You haven’t had a chance to date as an adult really so should shop around a bit! I would say the current crush is a symptom of your unhappiness rather than Mr Right. He could end up being, but better for your mental health to leave husband and have the attitude that you are now “single” and then date lots of people, date yourself, get to know who you are and what you want out of life.

Respectfullydisagree · 09/11/2022 15:54

It sounds like you already moved on, just need to bite the bullet and do it. If there’s no kids involved I wouldn’t worry too much. You do only have one life. Just think about the future though, it may be rosy now but make sure this new guy will last and if you would be happy still leaving your marriage if he was to dump you in a year or whatever… not saying it’s going to happen but you know! Best of luck

AreWeDancer1 · 09/11/2022 15:57

I wouldnt leave my husband for this other guy - my mum had an affair and left my dad for another guy, and it was pretty sad, my dad has never gotten over it. I want to leave for my own happiness, for me, to be single. I have thought about telling other guy to cancel this dinner he has planned as it doesnt feel right, its too soon etc. However, why not? I deserve happiness, I want to date others, if it works with this other guy then great, if not, it wasnt meant to be and he isnt the reason I am doing this anyway. I have been feeling this way for so long. I guess the other guy has highlighted that I can be happier and that there is more to life.

OP posts:
MrsSchrute · 09/11/2022 16:00

You don't like your husband so you should leave.
However, you've started your affair with the OM with a lie, so I can't see it having much future.
I also fail to see how what you are doing is any different to what your Mum did, however you spin it.
I agree, forget about them both, be happily single for a time, and if you find someone down the line then you can start a relationship based on mutual respect and truth, not a lie.

saynotoo · 09/11/2022 16:02

Well you've lied to both your husband and the other man, the other man may not be interested when he knows the truth. You have every right to end your marriage, but you should have the decency to be honest with your husband.

Frostine · 09/11/2022 16:04

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
I say this because I wonder if this man is the easy way out ?
Do you really want to go from an unhappy marriage , straight into a relationship with a man who you told a lie to ?
Do you have children ? You haven't mentioned that at all.
I'm not saying stay in your marriage because of children , but if you do have them , please consider the break up of your marriage and then straight into the first flush of a new relationship and how that might effect your children.
You would probably be better off finding out who you are after being with someone for 11 years first.few
Also if you have a hang up about inverted nipples , work on that for yourself first as well .

FooFighter99 · 09/11/2022 16:04

Life is short - do what makes you happy

AreWeDancer1 · 09/11/2022 16:05

Sorry for not mentioning everyone, we have no children.

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MistletoeandBaileys · 09/11/2022 16:06

OP I always read these kind of things with a “what would I think of it was the husband was doing this” kind of way.

The person you are at 19 and the one you are at 30 is so extremely different. I started seeing my husband when I was 20 and he was 22. We are married 2 years now and together almost 10 years. We have had our ups and downs in that time but one thing we always made sure to do was prioritise our relationship.

We have supported each other through career changes, health scares and family dramas. Anytime I do anything such as get my nails done he always compliments them. We laugh so much together. We adore each other and fancy each other madly.

We are respectful to each others families and make sure to have plenty of dates even if it is just taking our dog for a walk.

You don’t seem to have many happy times with your husband. You have grown up together but he’s very different to you in a lot of ways. His family blocking you is childish and doesn’t make it difficult to see where he gets his attitude from.

Give yourself a chance OP. Don’t put another 11 years into this. You are too young to be putting up with it. Maybe deep down he’s not happy either but can’t admit it?

But by the sounds of things you have a supportive and loving family who want the best for you and will stand with you if you decide to leave. 💐

DucklingDaisy · 09/11/2022 16:11

You have no children, you are only 30 years old and you’ve been miserable in your marriage for years with no realistic prospect of things improving. Get divorced for god’s sake, it literally couldn’t be more obviously the right thing.

If you had kids it might be worth working at it because of the downsides of breaking up a family. The downsides here are minimal. Get out for Christ’s sake.

Theunamedcat · 09/11/2022 16:11

You have no children your husband ignores your needs and wishes he will always do this because he always has and surely being told the same thing for ages he would have got it by now if he cared enough

It's over stop flogging a dead horse

sweeneytoddsrazor · 09/11/2022 16:11

Fair enough to end your marriage but be honest about it. You are already dating OM in other words having an affair, cheating. I am not judging whether you are right or wrong with regards to the affair but you absolutely do need to be honest and people will judge you for that

KitchiHuritAngeni · 09/11/2022 16:15

There's nothing wrong with leaving an unhappy marriage.

There's a fair bit wrong with lying to this other man, stringing him along, and playing with his feelings, when you are the one being deceitful to him.

You should definitely leave your husband, you have grown up together, but you've grown apart. And an emotional affair is still an affair.

You should also leave this other man alone what you've done to him is cruel and unkind. You've started something on a bed of lies and that's no place for a relationship to start.

ValerieDoonican · 09/11/2022 16:15

It really doesn't look as though your marriage can work - he sounds unhappy too. Focus on the process of separation. Tell the other guy exactly where you are and what is happening. I think beginning to date (or, effectively, continuing to date) could muddy this process, which will be hard. You will want to look back on this time as a time you behaved kindly to your ex-husband.

If he were to find out you are dating I think that would add a whole extra level of pain and anger into the process. Be kind to the young couple you were 6 years ago, keep your dignity and hopefully the respect of yourself and yours and his families, and leave the dating till you have properly separated.

SicParvisMagna · 09/11/2022 16:20

I was in a very unhappy relationship in my late teens early 20's. I fell pregnant quickly and stuck with him because I thought no one else would ever want me. Same as you, my family and friends saw how unhappy I was but the more they tried to talk me out of it, the more I dug my heels in. I didn't want my daughter to grow up in "a broken home" as my gran always called it. I wanted to be the only person I knew who had children young to still be with their childs father. I couldn't admit my unhappiness to anyone but I am a stubborn sod. Then I got a new job, and the first day met my now husband and suddenly, it was like I had woken up from a very long bad dream. I left my ex, moved in with my husband, we was engaged within 6 months married a year later. That was 15 years ago. I know not every relationship will end and begin and last but for me it saved me from a lifetime of unhappiness. God only knows how depressed how I would be if I'd married my ex. He wanted more children. I didn't. I'd given up on life, and was just dedicated to giving my daughter a happy life without any thought to my own. I see now how silly that was. I was so young. And you are too. You have no children. You and your husband have come to the end of your marriage it seems, and OM has opened your eyes to the possibilities that lie beyond it. It's not a bad thing. If I was you though, I would tell the other guy everything. Be honest. Lay your cards on the table. If he's still happy to wait, then why not? If he walks you'll know he wasn't the one but now you know how happy you can be, matching with a partner, having good conversations, and having things in common is such a simple yet important thing that you don't currently have. I wouldn't waste another moment being unhappy. You get one life and it's so short.

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2022 16:25

"I wouldnt leave my husband for this other guy - my mum had an affair and left my dad for another guy, and it was pretty sad, my dad has never gotten over it."

That's no reason to stay in a marriage that isn't working. Marriages end, neither of you are happy. There's no children to consider and you aren't responsible for anyone's happiness except your own.

SweetChild0mine · 09/11/2022 16:28

He sounds like a nob and he's pushed you away. He sounds selfish and even if he wasn't he can't give you what you want.

Leave your husband.

Tell the other bloke the truth and see if he still wants to see you when the dust settles. Leave it open ended

beastlyslumber · 09/11/2022 16:28

You're obviously not happy and your husband sounds very cold. Not unreasonable to leave him.

As for the new man. Well, you've lied to him, and that's pretty shitty. But to be honest, he is giving me red flags too. It's all moving way too fast.

Ditch them both and spend some time sorting your head out.

Daisychainsx · 09/11/2022 16:29

The marriage sounds doomed, if I was you I'd leave him and pursue happiness. Whether that's being alone, dating this other guy or dating someone else. But what I wouldn't do is have an affair... You need to break it off with one of them, and going by what you've said, i think it needs to be your husband.