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Am I living in dreamland... another marriage thread!!

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AreWeDancer1 · 09/11/2022 15:40

Hello Mumsnetters

I have read so many separation / divorce threads over the last few months which have been very comforting.

So here goes, I have been married to my husband for 6 years (very short marriage) but together 11 years. We met when I was 19, him 22. It was a happy, fun relationship and we got on great. As the years went by, and real life kicked in (i.e. we both started working), things changed, I changed. I want silly things like to go to a pub together, to go out for dinner and talk, to have a few glasses of wine at the weekend, listen to music.. not much! My husband, since starting his job many years ago, has become very grumpy and has quite a sharp tongue. He does things that really annoy me, which I have spoken about. For example, if we go out with family or friends, he takes off his jacket and throws it at me while I am sitting down and he laughs - it's clearly a joke but I dont find it funny. In the past, I have also spoken to him before meeting family (as he sits on his phone or he is rude to my dad) and friends (he makes rude comments about me or tries to prove me wrong at every chance he gets)... he says he walks on eggs shells around me.

We have stopped having sex too, and this is embarrassing but I have inverted nipples, which I hate and feel very self-cautious about. I have shared how I feel with him, during sex he would show my breasts lots of attention, which I hate. I spoke to him several times and told him not to do this, and why. He would ignore me each time and say he didnt realise, again, when I say to him, he says I am putting up "barriers", or I've killed the mood.

He rarely wants to do anything, and wants to be in bed and get up early everyday, except when he spends time with his friends. I have since told him I am unhappy and he got defensive. He keeps reminding me how he bought me flowers every a few months ago, and I "didnt appreciate them" and how he "hoovers" and I dont. Whenever I remind him that its exhausting to food shop all the time, think of dinner ideas, cook, and then wash up, everynight, all he says, bitterly is "thats all you have to say, you have nothing on me!!" and that pisses me off.

I have went to counselling the last few months and he blames me for everything. I told the counsellor, and him, that we cant keep doing this and that I wanted change in the next few weeks. So, I gave him a list of options to have a date night together; lets go get dinner, lets go to this new trendy cocktail bowling place, lets go to the comedy club etc. He has strongly suggested we go to the cinema instead... which we used to love as students but.. to sit in silence?! I have agreed as I am always said to be "putting up barriers"

Here is the part I will be shot down for. I met someone randomly 6 months ago. He is good looking, genuinely wants to know about my day, texts asking about my plans, etc. I told him a white lie, I said I was going through a separation with my husband, and I didn't have headspace to pursue anything with him. He totally respected this. But, I missed him and decided to ask him out for drinks. We had a great night, conversation wasn't awkward, tons to say to each other. When I think of him, I smile. He has asked if I would like to date after all the complications of separation has formalised; I panicked and said yes, and he has planned a dinner for in a few weeks' time. He said I have been going through a tough time (he is seperated and knows what I am "going through") and wants to treat me to dinner and he said he will go at whatever pace I want to. He said he thinks I am very special, and I am worth waiting for. I've told him I need a break from talking as I have too much stuff going on. I wanted to see if things with my husband could work, and didnt want the thought of this other guy blurring that.

So, my husband and I went away with family a few weeks later, and after dinner one night, we all went next door to the local bar, my husband said he was tierd and went back to the lodge, said he wanted to be alone - this was 930pm. I was really hurt. I wanted to be told I looked nice, I put in alot of effort to get dressed up, treated like a date night, I wanted him to stay, I wanted him to dance with me, talk to me, laugh with me. I asked him to stay for a bit longer and he just said, "no, I'm tired, sorry". My mum has been concerned about me for sometime now and keeps saying I have lost my sparkle and comments often how i am not happy in my marriage and that I am young and only get one life.

I ended up meeting this other man last night for drinks, and for company too. Anyway, I met the other guy, with the intention of telling him that we cant speak anymore. I didnt say it directly. But I was very horrible to him. I wanted him to say it, to make it easier. But he didnt, he wanted to talk, find out what was wrong, and got upset with all my mixed messages. I felt horrible. I got on the train home and cried. I genuinely really care for him. He wants to be with me. I want to be with him. Yet, I feel trapped in a marriage where I dont know how long I should keep trying. My inlaws have since removed me from a family whatsapp group after telling their son (my hubby) I was unhappy and have ignored me since. My PT, who I have seen since July, also commented "do you and your husband spend anytime together" after asking my weekend plans, and that made me sad and embarrassed.

For context, I havent slept with this other man, haven't done anything with him really. We have been out twice over the course of a few months and have kissed a few times, when saying goodbye, not that it makes it better. I know that makes me a cruel person, but I want love.

Anyway, if youve read all of this, thank you.

Would I be unreasonable to leave my marriage and just date this other guy - my marriage troubles arent new, and I think I deserve some happiness, I wouldnt be leaving DH for OM, I would be single and just date, take things slowly.

Or

I am being unreasonable, stay and work it out, and block this other guy

OP posts:
Georgeskitchen · 09/11/2022 16:30

My advice is to get out of this marriage right now. Your husband isn't interested in you, you don't have children to worry about and your are far too young to waste anymore of your life being miserable. Trust me, I've been there x

2bazookas · 09/11/2022 16:33

Put aside all thoughts of the other guy. You've lied to him about being separated. When he finds out you're dishonestly conning him, messing with his feelings, where does that leave you? Either, dumped.

Or in another shallow relationship, no respect, care or commitment, where anything goes.

You've already got a man who treats you like that, so you know what to expect.

TheSilentPicnic · 09/11/2022 16:34

I agree that it’s time to exit the marriage as it sounds hopeless.

I don’t think it’s wise to date the second guy but if you can be honest with each other then maybe there is hope? But the sensible thing to do is to exit the first relationship and take time to extract yourself physically and emotionally before mixing it up with a second relationship. Otherwise you drag a lot of baggage into the second one which immediately puts it under strain.

User0610134057 · 09/11/2022 16:36

You need to decide what you want for your marriage.
i really don’t feel you’re being fair to the other guy. You’ve lied about being separated and are stringing him along and giving mixed messages so no, I don’t think it’s going to work out with him.

goshdoyoumeantobsorude · 09/11/2022 16:40

No children, I think it is time to end your marriage and move on.
What you do with the other man after you make that decision is up to you.

whatisheupto · 09/11/2022 16:40

God, just leave. Of course. He sounds absolutely awful.
Don't beat yourself up about it.
Go and claim the life that is waiting for you.

AntiSocial6DaysAWeek · 09/11/2022 16:48

I definitely think you should leave your marriage.

But you either need to leave the new man alone or tell him the truth.

He seems like a decent guy and deserves better than finding out further down the line you started this by lying to him.

You deserve happiness and love but so does this new man.

Waitingfordecember · 09/11/2022 16:52

You sound desperately unhappy and should probably leave your husband.

Pretending to be separated isn’t a white lie though. It’s a major lie and unfair on everyone involved.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 09/11/2022 16:52

As someone that stayed put for far too long "because we were married" I can honestly say I wish I'd left him sooner.

We grew apart when we grew up. We wanted vastly different things from life. I realised I would be far happier alone, and maybe in the future in a happy, healthy relationship and I was right. I'm now married to the most amazing man and happier than I ever thought I could ever be.
He's happier too because he eventually realised that he didn't want a wife or a relationship so he has his bachelor pad and does as he pleases.

Leave your husband if you think life alone is better than life with him. Date the new guy and have some fun but don't get caught up on leaving your husband for the new guy.

Sceptre86 · 09/11/2022 16:56

This relationship has rin its course. You don't love him and he's not enamoured with you either. Call it quits, sort out your life and take things slowly. I would also be honest with the other guy, it's unfair to leave him hanging. At the moment you are just using him as an ego boost. You need to work on your own self esteem, more than someone else seeing you as 'special' or someone to be desired, you need to accept that you are worthy of happiness yourself. Best of luck op.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/11/2022 17:07

You're not 'cheating'; what you've done is emotionally detached from a marriage that has long since been running out of steam and now seems dead in the water. From the sounds of it you've tried hard to salvage the marriage but the effort is only coming from one side; he sounds even more detached than you are. Your Mum is wise, she knows you best and can clearly see how unhappy you are.

I'd second the advice from @Georgeskitchen. I've also been in precisely the same position. I also left my youthful and ill-advised first marriage, and I never looked back.

The man you're interested in dating isn't really relevant to your current situation. This isn't working: time to accept that and make a clean break of it. It will be much less painful in the long-run.

BadNomad · 09/11/2022 17:11

You're having an emotional affair with this other guy. And you're lying to him. You need to end things with both of them and figure yourself out before dating anyone. A liar and a cheat isn't who you are (I hope).

AntiSocial6DaysAWeek · 09/11/2022 17:15

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/11/2022 17:07

You're not 'cheating'; what you've done is emotionally detached from a marriage that has long since been running out of steam and now seems dead in the water. From the sounds of it you've tried hard to salvage the marriage but the effort is only coming from one side; he sounds even more detached than you are. Your Mum is wise, she knows you best and can clearly see how unhappy you are.

I'd second the advice from @Georgeskitchen. I've also been in precisely the same position. I also left my youthful and ill-advised first marriage, and I never looked back.

The man you're interested in dating isn't really relevant to your current situation. This isn't working: time to accept that and make a clean break of it. It will be much less painful in the long-run.

It's cheating if she is dating and kissing someone else before separating with her husband. I understand the reasons but it's still cheating even if they haven't had sex so she needs to end the marriage and be truthful to the man who doesn't realise he's the OM.

AreWeDancer1 · 09/11/2022 17:17

Thank you everyone. I was expecting horrible comments, but you have been supportive and have given very good advice, thank you. I'm tearing up, at work, because I know that my marriage is over. I think I have held off admitting that for so long because I wanted someone to tell me that, to tell me to leave. I have felt trapped and unable to do anything because I have been so scared of what people would think, and still am a little.

My mum is very wise and has been very supportive. She has told me that who knows what the future holds with other guy but he cant be part of my decision and I shouldnt leave my husband to be with him. I guess thats why I have been nasty to the other guy, again, taking the easier option and wanting him to not speak to me anymore.

Thanks everyone.

OP posts:
EnjoythemoneyJane · 09/11/2022 17:20

Your marriage sounds like it’s over, but your DH is not going to be the one to end it, so you need to take control of the situation and free both of you to move on.

But as someone else said upthread, beware of jumping from frying pan to fire. New guy is clearly very interested in pursuing a relationship with you, and has given you a lovely glimpse of what single life might look like, but the situation is already complicated and won’t be made any easier for you to navigate by having him hovering in the wings.

Separation and divorce can be very messy and emotionally draining - you are letting go of a long and significant relationship, and even without children involved it’s unlikely to be plain sailing. A friend’s divorce (that seemed relatively amicable from the outside) was described by her as a bereavement, unbelievably painful.

And if this guy is right there while you’re going through this, with all the immediate intimacy of providing emotional support through a turbulent time in your life, you may find you’re fast-tracked into another permanent relationship before you even know what you really want.

You’ve been with your husband since you were a kid. You need to spend a bit of time with yourself before deciding what (or who!) next.

BlodynGwyn · 09/11/2022 17:25

It seems to me that you just want the same thrill and excitement you get in a new relationship.

TiaraBoo · 09/11/2022 17:31

You and DH don’t sound suited. Why not split up. Take the other guy out of the equation.

mathanxiety · 09/11/2022 17:31

You've both kept the marriage.

You have no kids tying you together.

Make it official.

mathanxiety · 09/11/2022 17:31

Kept = left

slowquickstep · 09/11/2022 17:34

Your marriage is over. Do the decent thing and walk away before she start seeing anyone else.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/11/2022 17:42

I’m afraid I also skimmed a little bit as so long.

However it’s very clear you need to bin him. He’s no partner for you.

Id make sure to finish this relationship - marriage in fact - fully before embarking on a new relationship. Otherwise it’s just horribly messy.

Blueblell · 09/11/2022 17:43

It sounds like you are too young to be saddled with someone like this!

Mascaramademehappy · 09/11/2022 17:46

Stop cheating on your husband. Leave him if you don’t want him now.

donttellmehesalive · 09/11/2022 17:57

It's a litany of reasons why you don't like your husband any more but none of it is awful or abusive. He could probably write a similar list. You have just grown apart. It is time to separate before children come along and it all gets even more difficult. I don't think you should muddy the waters with an affair. I don't see anything to suggest that your husband deserves that betrayal. End things and then consider seeing this other man or looking for someone.

featheryfancy · 09/11/2022 19:40

I mean this in the nicest possible way, of course you should leave, why have you already not?

Your husband makes you miserable and doesn't sound like he gives a shit himself. Do both of you a favour and be happy

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