To not understand benefits of £7k a month!

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Awful story in the paper today (apologies, Daily Mail! But I'm sure it's in others)

Beyond distressing what has happened to the children (and the dogs) and I'm delighted this pair have been jailed.

But what also stood out, was the comment that they received £7000 a month in benefits.

How?

When my DH lost his job during cover and we only had my part time wage to live on, we were told that £1k a month was absolutely fine for a family of 4 to live on and we were entitled to nothing. Zero. Nada. Out of that £1k a month was our £600 mortgage, £200 council tax, £150 gas/electric etc etc. Basically there was no bloody chance we could live on £1k a month. We lost all of our savings and we're still paying back the debt we accrued now.

How do scumbags like this even just get handed that amount of money per month? And moreover, no one is bloody checking up on them clearly. Those poor children.

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Can someone please enlighten me as to how these even happens/is allowed? What on earth is £7k benefits made up of? Are all families with 7 kids and not working getting £7k a month because if they are I'm sacking off work and popping out a few more children.

A lot of the £7000 is probably towards rent and council tax

Then I’d assume some of the family were in receipt of dla/pip

So aside to this ridiculous case you should be entitled to support earning £1k a month with 2 kids?! Did you go through the new universal credit system? I earn about £1500 as a single mum and still receive £500 a month universal credit (which is mostly support with childcare costs)

It is interesting that there’s a thread about tbt benefits money and not one about tbt awful situation the children and animals were in though.

Oh for goodness sake, of course I am. That goes without saying.

I think you're missing my point. Point being, I can understand how families like this go under the radar - no one knows etc.

But how the hell can someone not know when the two parents, clearly devoid of any bloody brain cells have managed to put together competent applications for benefits (of whatever kind that might be) which gives them £7k a month.

And no one knows?! How do we just hand out that level of money and there are no checks? Because if there had even been one check, these poor children could have been saved much much sooner.

So yes, the level of money is relevant.

Only in Britain does the story of the horrific neglect of so many children become about the pets. Insane.

They are scum bags treating children like this. £7k is a shocking amount to receive so I would have thought it includes their rent.

Apparently they were recorded spending £1,600 a month in mortgage repayments, not sure that housing benefit would be paid for that?

She's plastered her life all over FB, it's not hard to see she's not disabled (she's a dance instructor for a start)

Why the assumption they’re thick or devoid of brain cells?

Abusive people are often clever - it’s how they get away with it.

I doubt the Fail has that correct

Is this really correct. A 3 bed house with 10 people and 35 dogs! And 7k a month benefits with neither in work! Crazy.

And the child abuse. Eugh. Beyond sad.

Because if there had even been one check, these poor children could have been saved much much sooner.

No they wouldn't. Most if not all of those children are school age so teachers would see them daily or do you think benefits should vist homes on a daily basis?
Why did the teachers do nothing and if they did why were they not listened to?

I think anyone claiming any more off the state should have a check.

Because if there had even been one check, these poor children could have been saved much much sooner.

Have you seen the threads on here recently and the outrage when “interfering” schools call social services when children say/do something worrying?

In that telegraph article it said the children were encouraged not to go to school, and to stay home to look after the younger children.

Children couldn’t use knife and fork, didn’t know what shampoo was.

I think you should get more than 6 years for this.

But as just about every poster has said OP there are checks, so what do you mean by “how do we just hand out that level of money and there are no checks”? You’re making it up as you go along now

That doesn’t really make sense - whether their application was for 2 dc and was £2000 or 7 dc and £7000 the checks that will have been done would be to verify identity and if anyone gets dla etc. there isn’t a system where you get flagged up as a safeguarding risk if you get over a certain amount in benefits !!!

They check proof of the disability and care needs.

People jump through hoops to claim benefits for their children. There’s no section of the form about parenting skills or neglect

Claiming any more than what?

Taxpayers get home visits?

Absolutely. It's heartbreaking. Literally no one cared about them.

I think anyone claiming any more off the state should have a check.

Oh fuck this.

I feel that you are deliberately ignoring what multiple people have told you. Checks are done at the point of application.

Why do you think I should have someone into my home to check I'm not a fucking fraud because I claim a disability benefit? Do you not think the medical evidence I provided it real? Do you think I faked it all? Fuck off.

I don’t think I’ve ever gone through a check to make sure I’m paying enough tax Certainly not a home visit…

Benefit claimants do have to have checks - you have to verify your identity either woth the gateway account or in person at the jobcentre.

You have to show proof (birth certificate) of dc

Tenancy agreement

Bank statements

give details of anyone on dla/pip

Moving from dla to pip if you’re an appointee for your dc you have a home visit