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To wonder how we can stop abuse cases like this happening

41 replies

stripyspider · 03/11/2022 19:30

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11386701/Mother-bodybuilder-partner-jailed-39-years-murder-15-year-old-son.html

Sorry, it's a very, very upsetting link, (probably the most upsetting thing I've read in a while).

But simply, how do we stop such awful cases ?

As an aside, the fact the "mother," and "stepfather" have been allowed to marry after being convicted of this is just disgusting.

OP posts:
stripyspider · 03/11/2022 19:47

I mean in this case, surely the teacher's at school would have noticed something given the extreme nature of what was going on ?

OP posts:
monkeypox55 · 03/11/2022 19:55

I don't think you can. If the one person who is supposed to protect you above all others is the one inflicting the abuse what hope is there?
You can give teachers all the safeguarding training in the world but kids will always slip through the net.
I just want to give that boy the biggest hug and show him some love ❤️

Coldhardtruth · 03/11/2022 19:55

That’s heartbreaking, absolutely awful. Poor poor boy. I have a 15 year old son I just can’t imagine it’s so horrific

thatone · 03/11/2022 19:58

So sad, the terror and loneliness that poor young boy must have felt.

Greenshake · 03/11/2022 20:03

We need to stop living such isolated lives and look out for each other a bit more. Community involvement is key.

TheHateIsNotGood · 03/11/2022 20:06

What Greenshakes says.

MadeForThis · 03/11/2022 20:07

It's absolutely heartbreaking. At least they got a decent sentence. God help the jury and whoever watched the trial online. That poor boy.

BobbysGirly · 03/11/2022 20:09

It’s an absolutely heartbreaking case. I’ve followed it from the start. I have no idea how to stop parents sadistically beating and murdering their children behind closed doors. It’s horrific that some parents carry out these heinious acts of violence and cruelty toward their children.

Its another case of a vulnerable child losing his life, during covid lockdowns. I don’t rate Sebastian’s father either tbh. He called the mother, who walked out on her son when he was 5 years old, to tell her Sebastian was getting into trouble with “The Authorities”. He was happy for his “mother” and some bloke he had never met to take Sebastian off his hands.

Poor Sebastian had nobody to love and care for him throughout his short life. His “father” couldn’t be bothered to turn up in court to see justice done for his son.

Absolutely tragic 😭

CaveMum · 03/11/2022 20:11

It’s a heartbreaking story. The article I read on the BBC said that one of his teachers had tried to intervene after she witnessed the stepdad shouting at him by the school gates but that Sebastian had told her everything was fine. It said they would keep him at home if he had any visible bruises on him so that the school wouldn’t see them.

That, combined with lockdowns, meant he missed a lot of school and he only arrived in the country in late 2020 so I guess the school weren’t able to build up a complete picture.

I’m not excusing it, but you can see how easy it is for children to slip through the cracks.

MummyGummy · 03/11/2022 20:11

I think every school should have a counsellor who meets regularly with children to discuss any problems they might be having. And more general teaching at school about who they can talk to and get help for emotional/physical/sexual abuse and what that actually is. Some children don’t even realise what they are suffering isn’t normal and don’t speak out.

COL1N · 03/11/2022 20:12

That article is very hard to read 😢

GhastlyBoo · 03/11/2022 20:14

I don't know the answer op but i really wish I did.
It's horrific how some people treat their children.

NameChangeLifeChange · 03/11/2022 20:17

It’s disgusting. Also I know this is a terrible thing to say but it annoys me how they’re constantly highly protected in prison- escorted by lots of guards, in with other ‘vulnerable’ inmates, their own rooms. Surely 30 years of being institutionally bullied and abused would be some sort of retribution.

Greenshake · 03/11/2022 20:18

NameChangeLifeChange · 03/11/2022 20:17

It’s disgusting. Also I know this is a terrible thing to say but it annoys me how they’re constantly highly protected in prison- escorted by lots of guards, in with other ‘vulnerable’ inmates, their own rooms. Surely 30 years of being institutionally bullied and abused would be some sort of retribution.

I get where you are coming from, but that makes us all just as bad as them.

NameChangeLifeChange · 03/11/2022 20:19

@Greenshake I know. Still wouldn’t feel sad if someone beat the crap out of them every so often…

ConnectFortyFour · 03/11/2022 20:20

Awful. The accounts from neighbours and teachers do seem like they genuinely didn’t have cause to report. covid lockdowns and useless father seem to have compounded the invisibility of the abuse.

the CCTV aspect is so odd too.

RedDiamond · 03/11/2022 20:23

A child will absolutely believe that his Mother loves him and if she she sanctions or approves of ANO causing harm to them, they will just go with it.

Angelik · 03/11/2022 20:23

I wish I hadn't read that. I can't comprehend why. Why would someone do that? I'm going to cuddle my 12 year old ds now

MumE78 · 03/11/2022 20:24

I've have just cried my eyes out 😭
How on earth in this day & age with the national register and child protection is the happening in the country or anywhere else.

That poor poor child

RedDiamond · 03/11/2022 20:27

@NameChangeLifeChange I think you do not have to worry. Even some circumstances NOT reported in the Media seem to make their way to the prisons. The Inmates have their own Court and Jury in these circumstances. And that is me speculating but knowing there is grain of truth there,,,

IncessantNameChanger · 03/11/2022 20:27

I'm not going to read it, buy I agree your mum.is expected to protect you. I had no other family involvement growing up. Same for my kids now. There's no grandparents investment or aunties or uncles. They are alive around but uninvested. Everyone assumes that mums care so unless the child has a confident who will know? You mum.hating you is the ultimate shame as she should be your best cheerleader. If mum.cant love you, your the problem. Because that's how I have always felt

Theluggage15 · 03/11/2022 20:27

One of the worst things amongst all the horror is that his mother still literally doesn’t give a shit, she’s writing poems to her vile partner about the beautiful moments they’ve shared and about getting married. It’s just incomprehensible.

LexMitior · 03/11/2022 20:32

These stories are all the same, the abuse starts with a new partner who regards the child as competition and decides to "discipline" the child so that they control the house and their new partner.

Yes there are good step parents but all these cases involve step parenting. It is a risk that gets ignored.

Buttons0522 · 03/11/2022 20:33

It is absolutely heartbreaking, I hope he rests in peace and they both rot. Something I find bizarre is the CCTV in the house and being caught out by their own cameras. This isn’t the first case where cameras have been involved and have captured the evidence.

BMW6 · 03/11/2022 20:33

You can't protect all children from this I'm afraid.
Children being abused by their own mothers will cover for their abuser just as women being abused by their husbands or men veing abused by their wives do and will sadly continue to do.