To find managing gen z a massive headache

[Managinggenzoclock]

I’m a millennial and I manage a team of people. Some of them are gen z. It may be individual personalities but these are the things winding me up.. please excuse this rant. Is it just me? I manage people from late teens to early 60s. The younger group are by far the hardest work.

• Very interested in career progression and pay (not a bad thing but see below)
• at the same time not being willing to ever (I’m not talking often) work more hours or support a colleague
• not willing to recognise that anyone knows more than them, even those with decades more experience
• resisting hierarchical management structures
• making lots of mistakes (including repeated over and over) but not have the humility of inexperience/ youth which would make this much less annoying
• trying to patronisingly ‘educate’ people on contentious issues in inappropriate ways.

I think maybe I’m being too nice.

It doesn’t have to be ageism. There is research behind the different expectations of different generations and if you recognise that people from different generations may need managing in a different way then it’s win/win for all. I learnt a lot from the report I linked to earlier.

So I'm GenX then. Good to know.

My Gen Y (Just about) DS and Gen Z (again, only just) break the mould I reckon.
DS1 is hardworking, unflappable.
DS2 looks at his peers and roles his eyes. They can't organise a piss up in a brewery, apparently. He gets bored of being the organiser among them. It's hit brinkmanship levels, where things don't happen because they all want to do it but no one actually makes it happen. He gets on with them socially, but doesn't like working with them because of the entitlement and flakiness.
He's not keen on the Gen Ys, either. He finds the older ones far better to work with and for.

Well I’m a millennial and right now struggling to manage a bunch of Gen X and baby boomers. So there you are. Kill me now. It’s been a long day and I am still going.

@Hoardasurass Cheers for that.
That means I have a cloak of invisibility according to a PP.
Woohoo.

Gen Z and Boomers are one and the same to my mind.

Also I very much do not want people to 'keep in touch'. Leave me be and I'll get my work done. Constantly communicate and I'll get aggravated bc I can't bloody get on with things while you yammer 😂

Gen X got off lightly because for the most part, the boomers parented the millennials. We are a result of their shit, self-serving parenting techniques like smacking, screaming and so on. Not all boomers, etc etc. But even on TikTok, I'm seeing a load of "funny" videos about 80s parenting showing kids being thrown across tables etc.

@Calandor 😂. I take no responsibility for the date ranges and have no knowledge of how accurate they are! Sorry! 😁

Sorry this was to @QuebecBagnet

High five. We're always going to be feckless, entitled youth even now that we're married with mortgages, kids, managerial level jobs and constant lumbago.

I'd love a link to that, if you can find it.

The two Gen Z people in our team are a delight to work with - proactive, eager to
learn, positive, take constructive criticism to heart, willing to step up and help a colleague. I guess I’m lucky.

on the other hand, the 60+ are a nightmare… apparently everything has to be done in just the same way as they did it back in the day, because this is the one and only correct way to conduct a business and we know nothing. It’s exhausting having to convince them every single day to do what they’ve been hired to do.

And of course not everyone fits their “generation label” either. Getting to know the people you manage as individuals is the most important thing, but with 100plus to manage it can be difficult.

This

That's Gen Z. They're teens and early-mid 20s.

27-41ish - millennial
12-26 - Gen Z
0 - 12 - Gen Alpha

I was going to ask what came after Gen Z.
Cheers @Calandor

I’m a boomer who parented a Gen X who wouldn’t recognise that. Apparently I parented like the old hippy I was. Teenage years were very hard I’m told because there was nothing to rebel against. He’s now teaching Gen Y in HE and despairs of them - they never turn up, never contribute, don’t read anything - he has no idea why they’re there.

@ReneBumsWombats

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Well I’m a millennial and right now struggling to manage a bunch of Gen X and baby boomers. So there you are. Kill me now. It’s been a long day and I am still going.

High five. We're always going to be feckless, entitled youth even now that we're married with mortgages, kids, managerial level jobs and constant lumbago."

Omg this made me laugh far more than it should!

No worries. I'm excited for Gen Alpha. I think millennial parents are trying more gentle parenting.

So we could be due emotionally intelligent young people... or even less resilience. Who knows?

Gen Z (from what I've seen on TikTok) are all going to have breakdowns when they hit 30/get older/ see Gen A being the bright young things all of a sudden.

@Blossomtoes he teaches Gen Y? So 27-40yo in HE? You mean Gen Z?

I'm at the older end of millennial, at university at the moment and the gen z students are wonderful, not as feckless as I was when I was their age, planning and saving for their futures, know when to be quiet and listen to others, it's nice. They all seem really switched on (should hope so, it's a diagnostic radiography course).

@ReneBumsWombats @Slig

🙌 To my people.

As a Gen X'er wasn't our problem that we had no ambition, no prospects and needed had to settle for McJobs? And drug use. Or something. When the economy picked up I think we were just grateful not to be spending the rest of our life backpacking on $1 a day.

Millienials were the first narcissistic generation "all about me". They were the first generation that went to university in great numbers, so that was the reason they all had confidence and aspirations, not realising that the class system was really the way people got rich instead of education.

Gen Z fascinate me. They are all victims of extreme social media exposure since a young age and are chronically self conscious and introspective. Instead of putting energy into their own needs they have decided to pick a fight through identity and social justice. Their narrative is at the extreme of right-on, staging protests outside their own schools if a teacher uses the wrong pronoun or god forbid - cultural appropriation. Where all that energy is headed I worry - doubt it's going into work though. I think they have given up on any idea of wealth and success because of the housing market and general unaffordability of anything.

In some ways they are amazing, they are more sensitive and thoughtful, less violent as a whole. Understand climate issue, work life balance and well being in a way we never did. Much less likely to be racist, homophobic etc all good.,

The element that worries me most is the total intolerance to listening to views that are different from theirs. Cancelling people. The lack of debate, discussion and learning to see the other side. The far left wokery had been swallowed hook line and bloody sinker. They think they are more entitled than other generations to shape world view - without realising there are thousands of world views. They have been spoon fed illiberal views and many have zero respect for democracy, and actively feel it is damaging.

I'll share my popcorn with you while we watch and wait to see what happens.