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To think a UK holiday is still a proper holiday?

259 replies

Driedpotatochip · 30/10/2022 10:43

I’m going to Argentina next week and a friend commented that it’s been ages since I had a proper holiday post covid.

I’ve managed to do long weekends away and a week away twice in the UK and also went to Spain for a long weekend from 2020 to now.

True I haven’t been to a destination that’s really far away since 2019 but I feel like i still had proper holidays. Aibu or does what I did not count as a holiday?

OP posts:
AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 13:53

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 13:49

Nope not a holiday.

But it is. Saying it isn't doesn't mean it isn't.

LosingTheWill2022 · 30/10/2022 13:55

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 13:41

Absolutely. When I returned to work I got asked if I'd been on holiday and I said no and that I'd just been away in the UK for a week.

Do you not understand how your choice of language affects others? You are not simply being neutral or talking about your preferences in holiday location. You are making a judgement i.e. that a stay in the UK is not a holiday.
Anyone hearing that knows how you place value not simply what you prefer.

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 13:55

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 13:53

But it is. Saying it isn't doesn't mean it isn't.

But it isn't to me. I'm not sure why those of us saying that a holiday is only a holiday if its abroad are getting comments that we're wrong. We've not tried to convince all of you that you're wrong. The word means different things to different people and that's OK.

berksandbeyond · 30/10/2022 13:56

Treeeeeeee · 30/10/2022 10:45

I agree with your friend. I only consider holidays as outside the uk. Anything in the uk, whilst as nice as it may be, i dont consider a holiday, only a break

This is my thought but loads of people will be along to get angry about this because they can't afford to go abroad 😬

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 13:57

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 13:55

But it isn't to me. I'm not sure why those of us saying that a holiday is only a holiday if its abroad are getting comments that we're wrong. We've not tried to convince all of you that you're wrong. The word means different things to different people and that's OK.

Just because it isn't to you doesn't mean it isn't a holiday. It is still a holiday. God I bet you got an eye roll for correcting someone.

hookiewookie29 · 30/10/2022 14:00

Well for those of us who can't afford to go abroad, then staying somewhere else in the UK is definitely a holiday!

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 14:00

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 13:57

Just because it isn't to you doesn't mean it isn't a holiday. It is still a holiday. God I bet you got an eye roll for correcting someone.

OK we'll have to agree to disagree. It's not a holiday if it's in the UK. If it is to you then that's perfectly fine. I haven't corrected anyone as far as I'm aware.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 14:04

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 14:00

OK we'll have to agree to disagree. It's not a holiday if it's in the UK. If it is to you then that's perfectly fine. I haven't corrected anyone as far as I'm aware.

Well you're saying it's not a holiday. Is that not correcting everyone who is saying otherwise. In your mind you think that anyone who has never been out of the country hasn't been on a holiday which is absolutely absurd!

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 14:06

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 14:04

Well you're saying it's not a holiday. Is that not correcting everyone who is saying otherwise. In your mind you think that anyone who has never been out of the country hasn't been on a holiday which is absolutely absurd!

I don't know why you keep on at me when there are loads on this thread with the same opinion as me. I haven't corrected anyone. I've said multiple times that everyone can call it what they want. Nobody is wrong.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 14:13

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 14:06

I don't know why you keep on at me when there are loads on this thread with the same opinion as me. I haven't corrected anyone. I've said multiple times that everyone can call it what they want. Nobody is wrong.

There are not loads of people who are saying a UK holiday is not a holiday at all. And yes, it is wrong to say a week in a hotel/caravan/insert other accommodation in Devon/Lakes/Conwy etc is not a holiday

LosingTheWill2022 · 30/10/2022 14:13

@rainbowandglitter do you truly not understand how your definition of holiday can negatively affect others?

Fizbosshoes · 30/10/2022 14:14

audweb · 30/10/2022 10:51

A holiday is leaving your house and going somewhere. The notion that a UK holiday is not a real holiday is a privileged view from people that can afford trips abroad. My kid views caravan/camping holidays in the UK as a real
holiday as much as going on a plane somewhere.

I agree.

And (IMO) it feels patronising when posters (not just on this thread- I've seen on lots of others) say "well for you it might be a holiday but I need to be abroad" (and then insert all their special requirements)
It comes across as a bit superior to me. There have been times when I've wished I've been on a Greek Island instead of a tent in the rain in Somerset, (no offence to Somerset!) but we choose the holiday our budget allows. Our teens have been abroad maybe 5 or 6 times....but we take them "on holiday" every year. We've had some amazing holidays in the UK and abroad (and a few not so good ones both here and abroad too)

bellac11 · 30/10/2022 14:20

audweb · 30/10/2022 10:51

A holiday is leaving your house and going somewhere. The notion that a UK holiday is not a real holiday is a privileged view from people that can afford trips abroad. My kid views caravan/camping holidays in the UK as a real
holiday as much as going on a plane somewhere.

Absolutely this. I grew up on UK holidays and still have them

I have 3 booked for next year already, they are holidays.

I also have some little weekend breaks which are breaks, not holidays.

bellac11 · 30/10/2022 14:23

rainbowandglitter · 30/10/2022 14:00

OK we'll have to agree to disagree. It's not a holiday if it's in the UK. If it is to you then that's perfectly fine. I haven't corrected anyone as far as I'm aware.

So people who have never been abroad, such as in the 1940s and 50s or now, never had a holiday!!

How stupid.

When we had a dog we never went abroad, 15 years of UK holidays, we go about 4 times a year, plus little breaks.

Holidayaddict · 30/10/2022 14:43

We had a week in a lovely cottage in Angelsey during the summer. That was a holiday. We also had 3 nights in Barcelona. That was a short break. I'm of the belief that a week or more away is a proper holiday, regardless of whether abroad or UK. I enjoy both holidaying in the UK and going abroad. In fact, I've often enjoyed the UK holidays more as I'm not a fan of the heat and get bored sitting round a pool for too long. There are lots of beautiful and interesting places to see in the UK. The culture & language may be mostly the same (although we heard lots of Welsh being spoken in Anglesey) but it's still a change of scenery. For example, Northumberland & Central London are definitely very different places!

When I was a child growing up in the 70s, like most people we knew we didn't go abroad. Our annual UK week away was most definitely a holiday!

Your friend is talking rubbish!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/10/2022 14:54

Right, so you are unable to comprehend that some people might have a week off work, or their DC are off school, but they are unable to afford a week's accommodation outside their home - or perhaps they can't stay elsewhere because they are disabled or unwell and have specialist equipment that can't be moved. That's 'ridiculous' and 'a contradiction in terms' to you. This is exactly what I mean about snobbish boasting.

I used to work with somebody who wasn't overly snobbish, although she tended to have a liking for 'the finer things' so to speak, and would turn her nose up at popular things that she personally didn't like.

I always remember how distraught she was when she realised that she had a week's annual leave left, but couldn't afford to book to go abroad (she'd just split up with her quite wealthy partner). She was considering not bothering to take the week off and just come in to work instead, as "what's the point?"

I think it does sometimes go with the territory that those with money rely on it as a replacement for using any imagination - something that's essential if you're a broke single mum during half-term. Taking it to extremes, do you remember that documentary where Michael Jackson was being shown around the expensive gold-encrusted tat shop - the shop owner would point to something gaudy and say how nice and special it was and MJ would nod to add it to his haul. Part of the joy of being wealthy is that you have choices that poorer folk don't have; but if you just say "I'm rich; show me things that rich people should buy", you have no advantage at all.

To think that somebody would rather pay their employer for the privilege of working for them (which is what deliberately deciding not to take your AL effectively means) - we were just in boring team admin jobs, as well - rather than just find a nice book, a hobby, some films or whatever YOU would like to do for a week just blows my swede.

Kolarbri · 30/10/2022 15:08

@AnApparitionQuipped But to me it is ridiculous, because I would never consider it a holiday! If I have time off and am spending it at home, that’s exactly what I’m doing,- chilling at home, which is lovely, but it’s not a holiday for me.
Why do you find that so difficult to understand!

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 15:10

Kolarbri · 30/10/2022 15:08

@AnApparitionQuipped But to me it is ridiculous, because I would never consider it a holiday! If I have time off and am spending it at home, that’s exactly what I’m doing,- chilling at home, which is lovely, but it’s not a holiday for me.
Why do you find that so difficult to understand!

That isn't a holiday. It's a staycation.

Kolarbri · 30/10/2022 15:28

@AllThingsServeTheBeam Nope it’s chilling at home😀

BelleMarionette · 30/10/2022 15:33

Yanbu. It's pure snobbery to say a UK holiday isn't good enough!

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 30/10/2022 15:34

Kolarbri · 30/10/2022 15:28

@AllThingsServeTheBeam Nope it’s chilling at home😀

If you don't go anywhere it is yes.

DrCoconut · 30/10/2022 15:42

I can't afford to go abroad. Our usual annual holidays are 3 or 4 nights at our favourite campsite, or occasionally we will try a different one. We go once at the start of the summer holiday and again toward the end. If I have a bit more money we may go to a nearby city in the Easter break to do some sightseeing and stay a night or two at a premier inn/Travelodge type place but these are getting very expensive now so it's a treat every few years. I consider this to be a privileged position because for years I couldn't afford to go away at all and I know there are still many people who can't. I guess a lot of better off people would turn their noses up at our trips away but they ABU. A holiday in the UK is still a holiday.

bengalcat · 30/10/2022 15:47

Had a holiday in Cornwall for four days in June - had a lovely time .

bellac11 · 30/10/2022 15:49

Holidayaddict · 30/10/2022 14:43

We had a week in a lovely cottage in Angelsey during the summer. That was a holiday. We also had 3 nights in Barcelona. That was a short break. I'm of the belief that a week or more away is a proper holiday, regardless of whether abroad or UK. I enjoy both holidaying in the UK and going abroad. In fact, I've often enjoyed the UK holidays more as I'm not a fan of the heat and get bored sitting round a pool for too long. There are lots of beautiful and interesting places to see in the UK. The culture & language may be mostly the same (although we heard lots of Welsh being spoken in Anglesey) but it's still a change of scenery. For example, Northumberland & Central London are definitely very different places!

When I was a child growing up in the 70s, like most people we knew we didn't go abroad. Our annual UK week away was most definitely a holiday!

Your friend is talking rubbish!

I think threads like this just magnify how ignorant people are about areas of the UK, saying that if they go somewhere in the Uk and its not 'different' to where they live.

Our cultural and language identities are hugely different throughout the UK, the history is also different in parts, the food is different.

Of course that is if you are prepared to take the time to explore that and embrace if.

Longerthanfiveweeks · 30/10/2022 16:13

My favorite place to holiday in the world is Northumberland. Love it.