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Drugs and my mum

49 replies

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 16:28

I would appreciate hearing the views of other people on this because I honestly have no idea whether or not I am being unreasonable and feel that other perspective is needed.

Long post, I am sorry. I will be really grateful for any advice or comments that are shared here.

So for context, I have recently finished a postgrad university degree - I am a mature student - age 30. I have moved in with my Mum for 2.5 months, until early Jan when I will move to my new place.

She is 69 and has both memory and concentration issues that sometimes are very bad and other times a lot better. She has pretty much always been this way but things have definitely worsened as of late.

Last night when we were about to sit down to dinner she started behaving strangely and I knew that something was up. She was sort of eyeballing me and shuffling around in the corner of the living room trying (poorly) to disguise whatever it was she was going. I noticed that she put on a pair of kind of fancy shoes that she doesn't ordinarily wear, and then wander off.

A few minutes later I went to go and grab my phone charger and walked in on her (didn't know which room she was in) counting a load of cash. It looked to be around £200. She shrieked when she saw me and tried to cover it up but I had evidently already seen it. I apologised for startling her and left the room.

She then shoved the envelope up her top (thinking I had not seen) and, whilst all of this was going on she was receiving a constant stream of audible text message notifications. Not like her to receive so many texts at once and I could see from afar that they were very short messages of between 1-3 words, so perhaps arranging a time and place to meet?

I then said to her 'if you would rather go and meet whoever you were planning to see then we can eat this later and warm it up -- I really don't mind' (we were having a takeaway and it arrived much earlier than both of us were anticipating).

She got a little flustered and I just asked her straight up 'are you going to meet a dealer?' 'are you off to buy coke or codeine phosphate'? I said I did not judge her but that I would appreciate her honesty.

She got very upset and irritable and told me that she was always careful, and that she did not want to me made to feel accountable to me in her own home.

Fair enough. She is an independent and autonomous adult and I don't wish to encourage on her freedoms or choices. However -- she lives in an area that is not all that safe, particularly at night, and apart from worrying about her safety going out to meet goodness knows who to buy goodness knows what when its dark makes me extremely uncomfortable, especially given her other vulnerabilities. She also demanded to know 'why' I had asked her if she was going to buy drugs and said angrily 'have you been going through my things?!' this is in my view, tantamount to an admission, and I had absolutely not gone through any of her things.

I think she thinks I am puritanical as I don't do drugs or drink or anything like that. She took drugs throughout my childhood but was always very functional and ran her own small and somewhat business. The picture is different now though and she struggles with quite a lot of things due to her memory and concentration issues. She lives in sheltered housing and whilst she is okay financially she certainly does need to keep an eye on things as she is not exactly flush. Another worry there, because I don't see how she can afford to spend £200 on drugs. I don't judge her -- she has had an extremely difficult life. But I evidently don't think this is the answer.

I am really upset to be honest. This is triggering for me because of my childhood experiences with this. But also because she is now a pensioner and still behaving like she is 19 and being (in my view) totally reckless. I understand that she is very afraid of ageing because she has been vocal about it. She also has hypertension and arthritis, as well as a more recent health issue with daily bladder incontinence. I wish she would take more care of her health.

We only have each other -- no other family at all to speak of, so I really feel quite responsible for her in lots of ways and I worry so much about the prospect of losing her.

AIBU in trying to gently and kindly but firmly challenge these choices and behaviours?

Should I just leave her to it (which would make me very sad and also super worried for her health and wellbeing). I don't want to push her away or be infantilising and oppressive, but I am really at a loss as to what to do now.

Thank you for reading and for any advice!

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stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 16:33

Typo: I don't wish to *encroach, not encourage!

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Aquamarine1029 · 29/10/2022 16:38

Your mother will not be changing. Challenging her on her choices will accomplish nothing and will only drive a wedge between you.

If I were you, I try to stay somewhere else until you get your own place.

Grapewrath · 29/10/2022 16:38

Let her get on with it, you won’t change her. Get your own place as soon as you can so you don’t have to be around it snd let your Mum be the person she is. I’m sorry for you.

Choconut · 29/10/2022 16:44

Agree with others, anything you say will just cause huge tension and not solve anything. Either stay and turn a blind eye/bite your lip or stay somewhere else until you move into your new place.

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 16:45

Thank you for the comments @Aquamarine1029 and @Grapewrath .

I am interested to see that both of you have said she won't change. I agree and think you are probably right. But I am still holding out hope that she will...

Can I ask what makes you say that?

She is not an addict, as far as I am aware, so I do not think there is any dependence there, but as she has taken drugs recreationally for years and also misused prescription painkillers it has gone on for a long time.

And yes, I would stay somewhere else, anywhere else if I could but for various reasons there are no other options at present, sadly.

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JessesMum777888 · 29/10/2022 16:46

I am so sorry.
I fucking hate drugs and the misery they bring to families.
im sorry I have no advice but just wanted To send you love x

Aquamarine1029 · 29/10/2022 16:47

Can I ask what makes you say that?

She's 69 and she's an addict. She has been for decades it seems.

She is not changing and the sooner to accept that the more at peace you'll be.

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 16:52

JessesMum777888 · 29/10/2022 16:46

I am so sorry.
I fucking hate drugs and the misery they bring to families.
im sorry I have no advice but just wanted To send you love x

Thank you very much for your kind words @JessesMum777888 . If you have experienced something similar then I am also sorry you have had to endure this misery.

x

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Apileofballyhoo · 29/10/2022 16:53

Maybe not physical dependence not psychological yes. Try Nar Anon.

You could mention localised oestrogen HRT to your DM, might help with the incontinence.

I'm sorry you went through this as a child and are still being upset by it as an adult. 💐

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 16:53

Aquamarine1029 · 29/10/2022 16:47

Can I ask what makes you say that?

She's 69 and she's an addict. She has been for decades it seems.

She is not changing and the sooner to accept that the more at peace you'll be.

I am not in denial or totally against the possibility that this is an addiction issue.

But how can I / you / we know that it is? Genuine question. If it is addiction I would like to be able to recognise that but I am not sure how :(

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Apileofballyhoo · 29/10/2022 16:53

But psychological!

Quitelikeit · 29/10/2022 16:57

You should consider contacting your local drugs support team - there will be one in your area.

id inform the sheltered housing team

I’d check her bank statements

id delete and block the dealers number

ive never ever heard of a 70 year old doing drugs such as cocaine - I mean why would she want to be high?

Aquamarine1029 · 29/10/2022 16:57

Sorry, op, but I think you are a bit in denial. It's understandable because who wants to admit their mum is an addict? Sadly l, she is. You have had all the proof you need.

NukaColaQuantum · 29/10/2022 16:59

Once you move out, do not give her your address, change the number of your normal mobile phone and buy a cheap burner that only she has the number for. Only turn that phone on when you feel able to deal with her.

Her addiction isn’t your problem, you are not responsible for her and you owe her nothing. She raised you whilst drug addled, and I’d wager you are very much minimising when you say she was somewhat functional.

From, a 30 something also dragged up by a drug addled mother who I no longer allow to be a millstone around my neck.

justsayso · 29/10/2022 17:01

The fact she abused prescription painkillers throughout your childhood is evidence she has an addiction. That she is using money she can ill afford to buy drugs is evidence she has an addiction. She is hiding her use from you, which is evidence that she has an addiction. Read your post. It's evidence that your mum has an addiction.

Nanny0gg · 29/10/2022 17:06

Quitelikeit · 29/10/2022 16:57

You should consider contacting your local drugs support team - there will be one in your area.

id inform the sheltered housing team

I’d check her bank statements

id delete and block the dealers number

ive never ever heard of a 70 year old doing drugs such as cocaine - I mean why would she want to be high?

I know nothing about drugs, but I would have thought for the same reason as everyone else!

She's used them all her life, she has health problems and getting old can be shit.
So there's plenty of reasons right there!

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 17:13

Quitelikeit · 29/10/2022 16:57

You should consider contacting your local drugs support team - there will be one in your area.

id inform the sheltered housing team

I’d check her bank statements

id delete and block the dealers number

ive never ever heard of a 70 year old doing drugs such as cocaine - I mean why would she want to be high?

I am very reluctant to inform the sheltered housing team as they are very disengaged and stood by whilst another elderly resident had a stroke and did not call an ambulance. They are often not on site and can be quite ill-tempered. I am also reluctant to tell them as I worry about jeopardising her tenancy and that she may end up homeless as a result.

As to your other suggestions: I very much would like to check her bank statements, mostly because I fear that she might have signed up to things that are very costly that she doesn't need (objectively speaking) -- essentially I am worried that she will be taken advantage of. Not only that she may be funnelling money to various dealers etc.

To delete and block the dealers number would require access to her phone, which I could only obtain by deceit, and I really worry about the impact this will have on our relationship as her trust is already shaky and she will likely push me away / shut me out. Also, surely she will just find another dealer?!

I'm with you -- I have also never heard of someone of her age and with her vulnerabilities doing drugs. It is really upsetting. She also has a younger friend who is in his late 50s who does a lot of coke and who I consider to be a really bad influence. I don't know how to get rid of him but I would like to! Not an under the patio type thing but just to be able to get him to stop contacting her.

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stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 17:15

Apileofballyhoo · 29/10/2022 16:53

Maybe not physical dependence not psychological yes. Try Nar Anon.

You could mention localised oestrogen HRT to your DM, might help with the incontinence.

I'm sorry you went through this as a child and are still being upset by it as an adult. 💐

Thanks ever so much for the localised oestrogen HRT recommendation -- I will pass it onto her.

She seems to have real health anxiety generally, so I am sure she wants to treat it. And yes I know that sounds in contradiction to her abuse of drugs, but that is the situation.

I will also look into Nar Anon.

Thank you for your kind and consoling words.

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TheSausageKingofChicago · 29/10/2022 17:20

Does she have a social worker? She sounds quite vulnerable and I’d worry she was being exploited, which I think is part of your concern too.
Its an awful situation for you. Sadly you can’t control her in her own home but if you think there is a safeguarding issue you can flag it to the appropriate agency. Sorry you are going through this.

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 17:23

Aquamarine1029 · 29/10/2022 16:57

Sorry, op, but I think you are a bit in denial. It's understandable because who wants to admit their mum is an addict? Sadly l, she is. You have had all the proof you need.

Yes, possibly I am. I will think more about this tonight...

Hard for me to be objective of course, but I am coming to the realisation that perhaps this is an addiction

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Grapewrath · 29/10/2022 17:27

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 16:45

Thank you for the comments @Aquamarine1029 and @Grapewrath .

I am interested to see that both of you have said she won't change. I agree and think you are probably right. But I am still holding out hope that she will...

Can I ask what makes you say that?

She is not an addict, as far as I am aware, so I do not think there is any dependence there, but as she has taken drugs recreationally for years and also misused prescription painkillers it has gone on for a long time.

And yes, I would stay somewhere else, anywhere else if I could but for various reasons there are no other options at present, sadly.

My mum is also an addict. At times she stops using but unfortunately she still has all the associated behaviours. The wanting to stop has to come from them, genuinely wanting to make a change. Often though the addiction is replaced with another self destructive behaviour. I have taken a big step back and it’s been beneficial to me.

stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 17:28

NukaColaQuantum · 29/10/2022 16:59

Once you move out, do not give her your address, change the number of your normal mobile phone and buy a cheap burner that only she has the number for. Only turn that phone on when you feel able to deal with her.

Her addiction isn’t your problem, you are not responsible for her and you owe her nothing. She raised you whilst drug addled, and I’d wager you are very much minimising when you say she was somewhat functional.

From, a 30 something also dragged up by a drug addled mother who I no longer allow to be a millstone around my neck.

I hear you, and we have had times before where we haven't spoken and I have ignored her calls, but that is not something I wish to repeat and I do not feel comfortable with shutting her out.

You are right that her addiction is not my problem, but she is my Mum and the only Mum I've got. She is also my only family member. We have always been really close and she is a loving and very sensitive soul, despite her failings.

I wasn't minimising when I said she was functional -- she ran her own business, parented me full-time as a solo parent, and for the most part she did this well (the drugs aside of course), she had a busy social life and various other responsibilities. She has a LOT of trauma from an awful childhood. I truly believe she has done her best when she was so broken to begin with. I believe that addiction is an illness. She also bent over backwards to give me a wonderful childhood in many ways, but yes, her drug use was a big stain on that, I can't lie.

I am truly sorry to hear of your similarly awful experiences. I sincerely hope that you are finding peace now in adulthood 💐

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stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 17:29

justsayso · 29/10/2022 17:01

The fact she abused prescription painkillers throughout your childhood is evidence she has an addiction. That she is using money she can ill afford to buy drugs is evidence she has an addiction. She is hiding her use from you, which is evidence that she has an addiction. Read your post. It's evidence that your mum has an addiction.

I agree with most of this and I think you are right. I am just processing it.

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stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 17:31

TheSausageKingofChicago · 29/10/2022 17:20

Does she have a social worker? She sounds quite vulnerable and I’d worry she was being exploited, which I think is part of your concern too.
Its an awful situation for you. Sadly you can’t control her in her own home but if you think there is a safeguarding issue you can flag it to the appropriate agency. Sorry you are going through this.

No, no social worker. But I agree that she probably does need one and I am going to look into this tomorrow as a priority.

Are there any downsides that come with having a social worker?

Yes. You have hit the nail on the head. She is vulnerable, and I am extremely worried that she could be exploited or currently is being.

But can I ask what type of exploitation came to mind -- do you mean in relation to money? Or just generally?

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stillorsparkling10 · 29/10/2022 17:34

Grapewrath · 29/10/2022 17:27

My mum is also an addict. At times she stops using but unfortunately she still has all the associated behaviours. The wanting to stop has to come from them, genuinely wanting to make a change. Often though the addiction is replaced with another self destructive behaviour. I have taken a big step back and it’s been beneficial to me.

Thank you for your input @Grapewrath -- it is good to hear from people with similar experiences, although I am very sorry that you have had to deal with this.

It is positive that some distance between you has been so beneficial for you -- I hope this new sense of peace continues.

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