To think this isn’t really enough food for a 13 year old?

[ChocolateCrepe]

DS has been given 2 slices of a supermarket pizza, 4 chicken nuggets, a handful of fries (literally about 12) and a few cucumber chunks for his dinner

I think this is nowhere near enough food for a growing teen
The adult who gave him the food thinks it’s plenty and I’m being silly

DS is far too polite to ever comment if he didn’t think it was enough but I’ve made him a sandwich and he is now eating it happily

WIBU?

I presume you're still losing weight though, otherwise you surely would need more calories

The child in the OP is not losing weight, he is growing, so its not really comparable.

Aside from that, someone who has a gastric bypass is guaranteed to have a history of disordered eating. Their experience of eating and the way they relate to food aren’t normal, and they should be aware of that fact.

They should not be coming on threads like this and presenting their post-surgery eating habits as normal.

Saying "Ah but we're all different, I'd only eat a couple of chips" without disclosing that you have a history of disordered eating and have had gastric bypass is all kinds of fucked up.

So the supermarket Margherita pizzas (pretty plain in terms of toppings) we get are about 1,000 calories in total, this would be:

1/4 pizza = 250 calories
4 chicken nuggets = 190 calories
125g fries = 399 calories

That's a quick Google of typical supermarket bought food, 839 calories, which I think is fine for a dinner meal. Where are you getting your calorie measurements from??

Yup.completely manipulated by todays diet culture society.I fucking hate it. It’s so harmful and so dangerous. But sadly getting harder to argue against or put right because this kind of disordered crap is accepted almost lorded in todays diet cultured world.

We need to stop measuring this out via calories! Children teens and dad I utter it adults shouldn’t be led by whether this looks ok calorie wise. I never ever want to portion my kids meal out dependant on working out his calories and nor would I let them.I’d actively stop it!
this is about a plate of food.which yes given the nutrient density of this one might be of more calories but portion wise it needs more.and that simply mean this meal might be more calories.but on balance that will be more than ok. Other meals will balance it out hopefully.
you can’t always look at a meal and think it’s ok because of calories. It has to be mentally adequate and physically satiating too. And this small plate for the most part everyone has agreed is too small. In the context we’ve been given anyway.
forget about the calories.it’s a young lads plate of food. Just food.leave the bloody numbers aside.

That would fill me up and am 33

And what has that got to do with anything? Lots and lots of posts on here about why a growing teenage boy will need more food than a grown woman. I despair sometimes.

@TomTraubertsBlues
The needs of ANY teenage lad will be totally different to what an adult with severely disordered eating and a gastric band eats.
Your experience is not an example of "different people having different requirements". You are an example of someone with long term disordered eating.

Firstly, I've never said that my food/calorie requirements are on a par with anyone else, let alone a teenage lad, I've simply said that everyone is different and will have differing needs, even if you're comparing two people of the same age, build, activity levels, etc, hence, yet again, I say that everyone is different and has varying needs.
Secondly, I don't have a gastric band, i had extremely major surgery to have a bypass done, there's a massive difference between the two.
Thirdly, you don't know me so don't have a) the right or b) the in-depth knowledge of my medical history, to judge me.
I have never had, as you put it, 'disordered eating', I do in fact have a number of serious health conditions which caused me to pile on weight despite never eating above 1,500 calories/day, which in turn made my conditions worse and the only way to break the cycle was to have surgery, which I paid privately for, I did not get it done on the NHS.
So yes, my example is that of someone who has different requirements to what you might consider 'standard'.
My advice to you would be to get your facts straight in future before judging or telling people they're "disordered".

@MsCactus all found on the asda website.

I do wish that everyone would stop with the pile-on where @Harmonypuss is concerned.

She was merely making an observation about how people have differing nutritional needs.

I personally find this type of public vilification and denigration quite uncalled for. If you don’t find the poster’s comment helpful or useful, move on.

If you want more/extra information, which is asked for and provided, can you all not just digest such information without the, at times, quite malicious comments?

Nowhere did Harmonypuss say she had disordered eating, or an eating disorder, or any such thing!

Assumptions have been made, possibly because people are not taking time to read or perhaps because reading comprehension isn’t quite of a high enough level amongst the MNers who are posting (see that assumption I just made there? Not nice is it?).

As someone who has gained 23 kilos in 17 months due to an injury which led to more injuries which led to having to walk extremely slowly using a cane, I’m now contemplating bariatric surgery myself because something has to happen and I can’t see any other solution right now.

So please don’t judge people when you don’t know their story. It might be helpful to remember an old saying “Before you judge someone, walk a mile in their shoes”.

And before I get piled on, I do know the subject of this thread and I have previously posted about my own teenage diet but I didn’t about my 6 (previously teenage and current teenage) sons because they were all extremely different in terms of size of appetite, sports and activity levels and what they would/wouldn’t eat! They also all had peaks during which they ate more and times they ate less. It was very difficult to compare to them to each other, let alone a complete stranger on the Internet!

Actually I think its the opposite, people who have been on life long and all kinds of diets are keenly aware of calorie amounts in the way that others arent

Without knowing exactly what brands the OP is talking about, that meal actually contains a lot of calories and assuming the boy had usual food throughout the day its not starvation portions for him to have that for his tea. Obviously he's still been hungry after so he can have a bit more

I think that people really, hugely underestimate calorie amounts. People who are overweight are not necessarily 'disordered' by the true sense of the word.

JoanOfAllTrades I can't think of anything more irrelevant to this thread than someone on a tiny amount of food after a gastric bypass. That's why it was jumped on.

Exactly.

And the relevant context (i.e. the gastric bypass) wasn't even mentioned in their original post.

And whatever that PP claims, the fa t that they presented the food needs of someone with a gastric bypass as being within the normal range for an adult woman (so normal that they didn't even bother to mention the gastric bypass) is in itself indicative of a disordered relationship with food.

Id be delighted if my 13 year old daughter would eat that amount for dinner.... boys are often different to girls though and it all comes down to what he would eat normally I suppose in terms of whether it will satisfy him. Then theres the nutritional element to it, but to be fair that also depends on whether its a regular or unusual meal for him.

It depends on the child and their appetite but I know that wouldnt be enough for my 5 year old and hes a normal average sized boy.

I’m surprised people are saying they couldn’t eat a 10 inch pizza to their self??

My son can eat that and more! He eats more than me and his sister in one sitting but hes the most active out of all 3 of us

Is this thread not just proof that the OP's DS needs to be encouraged to advocate for himself?

Grown adults are arguing about how much food is needed, because we all require different amounts. DS will know when he's hungry or full.

And I still feel that the cruel, nasty and personal comments about ‘disordered’ eating/relationship with food, which she has stated more than once are not true, are hurtful and unnecessary. She has explained more than once why she made the initial post and I feel that really, a line should have been drawn but it seems like some people just love stirring the pot! Real mean girls stuff! And really quite unnecessary and distasteful.

Apropos to the OP, in order to lose even half a kilo (~1lb) I would need to cut my calories down to a measly 800 per day because of my own health at the moment.

That doesn’t mean I think the OP’s lad should eat that, but hey, we’re all different!

So @ChocolateCrepe what are you going to do

tell dh that needs to cook 2/3 pizza fir the 4 children

or a whole bag of nuggets. Think 24 in a bag so maybe 8 for teen and 4 for youngest

Oh, come on, you know you're asking in the wrong place. You've got people claiming they couldn't possibly eat a 10in supermarket pizza 😂

You should have given him a massive salad with it.

Shuffles to step

i had one of these the other week. Was bloody lovely and ate it all by myself

this is obviously very bad !!!!

Hot mango should be illegal!

MissyB Pizza, chips and chicken nuggets aren't filling food?! Really?!! What the hell is then?

I'm still struggling with the idea that there's no nutrition in them either. Or protein (I suppose there may be minimal protein in the chicken nuggets, if they are cheap, but I'd be very surprised if there was no cheese on the pizza)

Your DC would have dropped a hint that they’d like more food? I find it quite disturbing that 13 year olds are seemingly too afraid to ask their parents for more food.