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To think Suella Braverman probably likes being called Cruella?

48 replies

Owlcation · 27/10/2022 09:08

Because it’s a name that might make her feel powerful and well-known (popular for being villainous)… like Cruella. Is it too much of a leap that she already embraced “Suella Cruella” well before getting into politics? Probably at school?

I just don’t understand Suella Braverman. Sorry to those who like her. But she comes across as being strange… and not a good person either (I was surprised she claimed to be Buddhist, which I thought was concerned with compassion?!).

I don’t think she understands that getting a reputation as “Cruella” is not likely to end well for her. She’s an open target for controversy - and maybe that’s why Sunak used her to deflect attention away from himself.

And this is worrying… “Former Tory chairman Sir Jake Berry has claimed Suella Braverman committed “multiple breaches of the ministerial code” as the Prime Minister faces a backlash over reinstating her Cabinet role.“

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Pedallleur · 27/10/2022 09:26

She doesn't care in every sense. Her loyalty is only to her party and the PM. She is a lawyer and a politician so being thick skinned comes with the job.

Tillsforthrills · 27/10/2022 09:31

She relishes being hated by the left and any publicity at all is good publicity for her. Horrid woman.

Owlcation · 27/10/2022 09:49

Pedallleur · 27/10/2022 09:26

She doesn't care in every sense. Her loyalty is only to her party and the PM. She is a lawyer and a politician so being thick skinned comes with the job.

Being thick-skinned “may be indicative of leadership uninformed of the importance of emotional intelligence and therefore unable or unwilling to take in information from others which would better inform their strategies and decisions. It may also reflect a culture where the complaints of others and strategic issues which arise are seen as roadblocks rather than signposts on the road to a successful, growing and dynamic organization.” - www.linkedin.com/pulse/myth-thick-skinned-leader-susan-mckenna-penn

Yeah that makes sense when it comes to Suella Braverman. I don’t think being too thick-skinned makes her a good lawyer-politician because she still needs emotional and social intelligence to win the public over too.

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Owlcation · 27/10/2022 09:51

Tillsforthrills · 27/10/2022 09:31

She relishes being hated by the left and any publicity at all is good publicity for her. Horrid woman.

It’s not just the left that don’t trust her… those in the middle and centre right (like Jake Berry) are starting to show their dislike too.

This was a funny Daily Mash take btw.

How to ignore the haters, by Suella Braverman

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Pedallleur · 27/10/2022 10:43

Owlcation · 27/10/2022 09:49

Being thick-skinned “may be indicative of leadership uninformed of the importance of emotional intelligence and therefore unable or unwilling to take in information from others which would better inform their strategies and decisions. It may also reflect a culture where the complaints of others and strategic issues which arise are seen as roadblocks rather than signposts on the road to a successful, growing and dynamic organization.” - www.linkedin.com/pulse/myth-thick-skinned-leader-susan-mckenna-penn

Yeah that makes sense when it comes to Suella Braverman. I don’t think being too thick-skinned makes her a good lawyer-politician because she still needs emotional and social intelligence to win the public over too.

She is like JRM in that she doesnt care about emotional/social intelligence. She moves in her circles where her ilk are not unusual.

ilovesooty · 27/10/2022 10:48

Pedallleur · 27/10/2022 09:26

She doesn't care in every sense. Her loyalty is only to her party and the PM. She is a lawyer and a politician so being thick skinned comes with the job.

I doubt if she gives a fuck about her party or the PM. She's focused solely on her own ideology and ambitions.

MermaidEyes · 27/10/2022 11:00

Every time I hear her name my mind automatically translates it to Floella Benjamin and I start expecting to see Big Ted sat at the square window.

RiverSkater · 27/10/2022 11:25

I've detested many a Tory politician but she takes it to a new low.

Her face when Rishi was talking about taking her back and the nodding. Ugh.

That letter she write to Liz Truss meant nothing. She had no integrity and in her file, she needs that. Worse than Priti. 😱

Keyansier · 27/10/2022 12:58

I think Cruella is great! One of the best characters.

Cornettoninja · 27/10/2022 13:09

I quite like the more recent ‘leaky Sue’ given her inability to treat security with anything like professionalism

Lindengericht · 27/10/2022 13:15

My mother LOVES her.

I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.

LaGioconda · 27/10/2022 15:46

Pedallleur · 27/10/2022 09:26

She doesn't care in every sense. Her loyalty is only to her party and the PM. She is a lawyer and a politician so being thick skinned comes with the job.

Unfair to lawyers. Yes, she's qualified as a lawyer, but she's a very poor lawyer, otherwise she couldn't have constantly given the government such bad and incorrect advice when she was attorney-general. Her performance when she insisted on appearing for the crown before the courts was so bad it was embarrassing.

LaGioconda · 27/10/2022 15:46

I like to think of her in terms of her actual name, Sue Ellen.

witchesbubblebath · 27/10/2022 15:47

Yeah she's a cunt. Typical Tory.

SuspiciousHedgehog · 27/10/2022 15:50

She's extremist even as tories go.

She puts on a good show as panto villain.

Her appointment disproves the 'centrist Rishi' notion, imo

Owlcation · 27/10/2022 16:24

LaGioconda · 27/10/2022 15:46

I like to think of her in terms of her actual name, Sue Ellen.

Isn’t her name taken from the fictional character, Sue Ellen Ewing, from Dallas?!

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Owlcation · 27/10/2022 16:25

Lindengericht · 27/10/2022 13:15

My mother LOVES her.

I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.

I want to hear more from people who love her… what do they like about her?!

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Owlcation · 27/10/2022 16:25

Keyansier · 27/10/2022 12:58

I think Cruella is great! One of the best characters.

TBF I loved the recent Disney version with Emma Stone. That was fantastic!

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Burgoo · 27/10/2022 16:28

She is a self-styled Disney/Bond villain, so I suspect she doesn't mind it one bit. A bit like Rees-Mogg, it's all about the power.
Based on her behaviour, she comes off mildly sociopathic and therefore I think she has no interest in what others think of her. It's all about Suella and her career. She makes more than most of us make and that's all that matters.

DeclineandFall · 27/10/2022 16:28

Maybe that's why she changed her name from Sue Ellen to
Suella because Cruellen doesn't make any sense. Just like her.

Owlcation · 27/10/2022 17:15

Burgoo · 27/10/2022 16:28

She is a self-styled Disney/Bond villain, so I suspect she doesn't mind it one bit. A bit like Rees-Mogg, it's all about the power.
Based on her behaviour, she comes off mildly sociopathic and therefore I think she has no interest in what others think of her. It's all about Suella and her career. She makes more than most of us make and that's all that matters.

I did think she came off as sociopathic… but also psychopathic when she proudly announced her opposition to the human right to protection from torture and humane treat (said with a smile).

I suspect she values other things than money and career. She’s a wife and mother too. Maybe she cares about her husband and kids as well?

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Owlcation · 27/10/2022 17:16

*inhumane treatment

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Owlcation · 27/10/2022 17:17

DeclineandFall · 27/10/2022 16:28

Maybe that's why she changed her name from Sue Ellen to
Suella because Cruellen doesn't make any sense. Just like her.

So we’ve all fallen into her manufactured Cruella PR stunt.

Suella leads to Cruella. I find it hard to believe she wasn’t aware of this. Sounds purposeful and useful for being talked about.

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Bacibaci · 27/10/2022 17:39

I read a commentator say that Sunak and Hunt are happy to let Braverman and Badenoch be in cabinet and stir up horrid culture wars to deflect from the economic choices by Sunak and Hunt which they have already said will include further cuts to public spending.

They will not tell the truth that big public spending cuts are not necessary. There are alternative ways of funding. According to the Sunday Times rich list a couple of years ago the richest 1000 people in the U.K. - many who fund the Tories - have increased their wealth by £500 billion since 2009. It will be even higher now as during Covid the U.K. created a record number of billionaires as wealth surged despite a time of economic turmoil. When the govt and central bank have stepped in with huge fiscal and monetary interventions in recent years so much of it adds to the fortunes of the wealthy. Introduce a wealth tax and also make energy producers pay a windfall tax before even thinking of spending cuts on public services which have already been cut to the bone under austerity.

generalh · 27/10/2022 17:42

Apparently she hates being called her real name 'Sue Ellen'!