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To think working class shows?

795 replies

MrsBonnie · 23/10/2022 21:00

I work in a lovely school where they’ve all had very different upbringings to me. Very much working class here. Sometimes I think it shows with little things I’ve noticed.

Having sugar in tea, using a tumble drier, not having a cleaner, using the wrong glasses for different drinks (I.E using the same one for everything!)… what else am I missing that excludes me from the club 😂 sometimes I will mention something like the above and get “oh I never use a tumble drier” … then I just think oops have I said something weird there?

Sometimes I think they’re judging me with things I say and do but I hope not! I grew up being homeless at a certain point, council houses, single teen (but amazing) mum, a very specific type of circle. I feel like Mum did everything she could to get us out of that way of life, but I can’t help but feel I don’t belong sometimes. Or that I stick out like a sore thumb. Am I being daft? Imposter syndrome a little bit!

OP posts:
batshitballs · 24/10/2022 20:41

How do middle class people dry their clothes?

A580Hojas · 24/10/2022 20:44

I'm firmly middle class. My dh is firmly working class. There aren't that many things we take the piss out of each other about. I think the lunch/dinner, dinner/tea might be the biggest one. Also, when speaking to a doctor always calling them "doctor" which is something my dh and his WC family do in a weird forelock-tugging kind of way.

A580Hojas · 24/10/2022 20:44

batshitballs · 24/10/2022 20:41

How do middle class people dry their clothes?

In front of the Aga darling. Or they let the staff worry about it.

ManefesationofConciousness · 24/10/2022 20:45

batshitballs · 24/10/2022 20:41

How do middle class people dry their clothes?

Not sure?

They wash them less possibly?
Dry Clean more but also have less disposable clothing and so buy better and wash less to preserve?
Aga
Washing line
Laundry room
Utility room/scullery

Before condeneser dryers your tumble drier had to vent to outside- I imagine that was why we didn't have one growing up.

ManefesationofConciousness · 24/10/2022 20:47

The dryer/drier is the spell corrector

Changechangychange · 24/10/2022 20:50

Used to live in Canada. Everyone, rich and poor, uses tumble dryers there. It’s seen as weird to line-dry, and some areas have restrictive covenants against it as it is seen as common to have your knickers out drying on the line. The issue with most UK tumble dryers is that they are too small, or are combination washer-dryers, and therefore dry stuff badly.

And not all middle-class people have cleaners. Only the rich ones, and not even all of those. They are expensive, and good ones are hard to find (a bad cleaner is infinitely worse than no cleaner).

The only people I know who put sugar in tea are very middle class Indian doctors. My working class coal mining family don’t, though we do put milk in Earl Grey.

Changechangychange · 24/10/2022 20:54

batshitballs · 24/10/2022 20:41

How do middle class people dry their clothes?

My DM has never had one (though she is working class). She line-dries everything, or puts it on a clothes horse in bad weather.

She was a SAHM, so could stick stuff out for a couple of hours most days as it rarely rains non-stop all day. If you are at work you can’t do that, unless you can be confident it won’t rain until you get home in the evening.

There is always the risk of it being darked on too Wink

Daffi · 24/10/2022 20:57

This is Mumsnet they are all Range Rovers on HP aspiring to be Middle Class, making them working class, ironic

mynamesnotMa · 24/10/2022 20:59

Jesus do people actually think like this? How depressing..
Such inverted snobbery.
Is a tumble dryer a sign thar you aren't environmentally conscious enough. Middle class if you have a sherry glass. Utter bonkers

mynamesnotMa · 24/10/2022 21:03

I think what shows more is utterly bat shit reductive thinking. Is this a throw back 50s post.
Do we stick our pinky out to be posh?

Heythatwasmyhotdog · 24/10/2022 21:03

Sorry if already been mentioned but one thing I just thought of as well, at my kids primary school the children from the wealthiest families all arrive at school looking completely unkempt. Actually dirty uniforms, knotty hair. Totally don’t get how you could let your child arrive at school like that. The most WC children are always in clean, ironed, well fitting uniform with polished shoes and clean, neat hair - if girls they will have lovely little hair accessories too.
I can only think this is because the very wealthy have no worries about being judged or looked down on, whereas when you have grown up WC you don’t want your children to feel looked down upon and strive to give them the things you didn’t have?

Fluff3 · 24/10/2022 21:05

Does it really matter, I mean who actully cares if someome uses a tumble drier or not, or if they have suger in their tea. I use a tumble drier, because I have 3 kids and work FT. Sometimes its the only way I can dry clothes on a wet or cold day. We cant always put it in a line. My parents in law, who deffinately arent wc, also do. I dont see your point to be honest. I dont have a cleaner because I would rather clean my own house for free, and save my money for other things. Thats just being lazy. I personally dont know anybody who has a cleaner. I also dont go examining people to see what class they come from. Thats a very dated way and honestly thought we didnt do that anymore in this country.

Hmm1234 · 24/10/2022 21:22

Using a tumble dryer? Are you being serious

Bollindger · 24/10/2022 22:01

Be you, it really does make a difference to how others see you.
Some of the Richest people I know are always in old comfy clothing, and their car is a wreck, they don't care because they like themselves.
We had pot noodle a uni hangover and champagne in mugs the other night as we had a bonfire outside and didn't want broken glass the dogs might tread on.

slowquickstep · 24/10/2022 22:15

Is it Aprils fools day ?

antelopevalley · 24/10/2022 22:19

Bollindger · 24/10/2022 22:01

Be you, it really does make a difference to how others see you.
Some of the Richest people I know are always in old comfy clothing, and their car is a wreck, they don't care because they like themselves.
We had pot noodle a uni hangover and champagne in mugs the other night as we had a bonfire outside and didn't want broken glass the dogs might tread on.

Champagne in mugs sounds very posh to me.
Are these rich people wearing old comfy clothes buying them from ASDA like I do?

BretonBlue · 24/10/2022 22:20

ManefesationofConciousness · 24/10/2022 20:47

The dryer/drier is the spell corrector

Some, not all. Several people have said they didn’t know the difference and have learnt from this thread.

Benjispruce4 · 24/10/2022 22:21

I’m surprised at all the posters declaring their class. It’s not something I ever think about.

Winceybincey · 24/10/2022 22:21

LadybirdsAreNeverHappy · 23/10/2022 21:19

What context do you talk about these things in? Do you give them unsolicited advice about what glasses they should be using? Did you mention that you don’t use a tumble dryer as part of a conversation about doing laundry? Because it’s a pretty weird non sequitur. Maybe that’s why they look strangely at you.
If you comment on the fact that they put sugar in their tea and don’t have cleaners, then they probably think you are very rude.
Are you looking for stereotypes of working class people to add to your list? Because that could get quite nasty and then the thread would get taken down.

You’ve totally read the post the wrong way round.

antelopevalley · 24/10/2022 22:24

Heythatwasmyhotdog · 24/10/2022 21:03

Sorry if already been mentioned but one thing I just thought of as well, at my kids primary school the children from the wealthiest families all arrive at school looking completely unkempt. Actually dirty uniforms, knotty hair. Totally don’t get how you could let your child arrive at school like that. The most WC children are always in clean, ironed, well fitting uniform with polished shoes and clean, neat hair - if girls they will have lovely little hair accessories too.
I can only think this is because the very wealthy have no worries about being judged or looked down on, whereas when you have grown up WC you don’t want your children to feel looked down upon and strive to give them the things you didn’t have?

True. But why would you let your kids wear dirty uniform and not wash and brush their hair? It is neglect.

LadybirdsAreNeverHappy · 24/10/2022 22:24

Winceybincey · 24/10/2022 22:21

You’ve totally read the post the wrong way round.

I know. I said sorry and explained why in a later post.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 24/10/2022 22:30

All the people I knew who took sugar in tea also smoked. No longer with us but that's possibly an age thing.

LadybirdsAreNeverHappy · 24/10/2022 22:48

Iwantmyoldnameback · 24/10/2022 22:30

All the people I knew who took sugar in tea also smoked. No longer with us but that's possibly an age thing.

Nobody really calls it working class where I’m from but my dad is from that kind of background. He used to take tea with loads of sugar and always had a smoke with it, but he has coffee with coffee mate and vapes nowadays. I think a lot of the things that people used to associate with being wc have changed and moved with the times.

Willowlondoner · 24/10/2022 23:33

I once suggested that people who work for a living are surely “working class” regardless, given that they “work” to support their lifestyle. It caused a lot of upset with colleagues who very firmly identify as a certain level of middle class, yawn. I’ve never understood why people care about what class they are seen as, it’s always self imposed.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 24/10/2022 23:40

I can only think this is because the very wealthy have no worries about being judged or looked down on, whereas when you have grown up WC you don’t want your children to feel looked down upon and strive to give them the things you didn’t have?
Totally.

The evidence is on this thread.

I will continue to give me children nice shiny things they can wear to armour their self esteem.

Fuck knows that they'll need it.

The really poor DC don't have the shiny things, they're growing up completely exposed for people to look down on.

It is shameful human behaviour.

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