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To think archery has no place on a public playing field?

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IroningThrone · 22/10/2022 14:02

I live in a village with a large public sports/playing field - it has grass tennis courts, football pitches and such marked out. Dogs are allowed and I've always used it to give my dog a good run around (he's on a 50ft bright pink lead, not running loose. I tend to stick to the edges near the hedges so I'm not disturbing anyone!)

Walking today and just been shouted at by man setting up archery targets. They're set out so 1/3 of the field is now unusable. I'd planned to loop round the full field (as shown by the blue line- red dot is where he was setting up. Blue blob is where I entered the field!) He also wasn't shooting at the time so I'm not sure why he felt the need to shout at me that I couldn't go that way!

It's a public field with multiple access points - aibu to think that archery belongs somewhere where the access can be more controlled? A kid could quite easily run in from the side access and right across where he'd plonked himself!

To think archery has no place on a public playing field?
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GregJP · 25/10/2022 08:59

JobSeekingMissile · 25/10/2022 08:50

@GregJP i work with the general public and as a whole they never fail to surprise with their ingenuity for the stupid / ridiculous mishaps. Great believer in belt and braces to protect one's self.
my local pub has 2 sets of clear hazard signs "mind the steps" & "caution steps" complete with images, they have paint on the steps to make them stand out, and they are well lit and you would not believe the number of people stumbling in - usually accompanied by a sniggering friend that did read the signs 😣

It’s unfortunate as when we moved to the field we notified the parish as well as advertised in the village shop to make people aware we were there and if anyone would like to join. We had a few respond. But in the last few months new builds have popped up so those obviously haven’t seen anything,

maddening · 25/10/2022 09:08

Shouting warnings and signs seem inadequate - what about hearing impaired, visually impaired and people unable to read or understand english

GregJP · 25/10/2022 09:13

maddening · 25/10/2022 09:08

Shouting warnings and signs seem inadequate - what about hearing impaired, visually impaired and people unable to read or understand english

For those who don’t read signs or actually look do you think we should have a full time guard at the gate?. With the main gate closed there is still a small cut through to the children’s play area. We have people who shout loud, also a megaphone and whistles,

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 25/10/2022 09:58

@GregJP
Your organisation is to be commended for trying to be community spirited and allowing public access to this privately owned field.
Sadly, with the attitudes shown by some on this thread, I think you probably need to protect your own interests and close the field to the public.

Backthetruckup · 25/10/2022 10:17

Man uses archery field for archery, hold the front page!

Ekátn · 25/10/2022 10:18

maddening · 25/10/2022 09:08

Shouting warnings and signs seem inadequate - what about hearing impaired, visually impaired and people unable to read or understand english

So what’s the alternative?

IroningThrone · 25/10/2022 12:22

I've seen it physically fenced off before with ropes. (Different location!)

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GregJP · 25/10/2022 13:51

IroningThrone · 25/10/2022 12:22

I've seen it physically fenced off before with ropes. (Different location!)

So you are aware Archery exists and on a big open spaced field?.

Also just out of curiosity did you think the archer lugged an approximate target 3ft X 5ft and 2-3 stone on his back?. To an open space?. If not you may have observed he retrieved a target out of a ginormous shipping container which sadly isn’t even movable by the worlds strongest man. at just over 30 TON we had to use a Hiab.

IroningThrone · 25/10/2022 14:08

Why the sarcasm? I simply said what I've seen in the past. Of course I'm aware that it exists. I don't think that was ever in doubt. That particular field was part of a private estate down south though. I don't think I've every seen it done on a space where people can just walk in (which is why I started this thread - it's outside my sphere of experience!)

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thelobsterquadrille · 25/10/2022 14:08

I don’t know why everyone is having such a go at the OP

Because she went to the effort of looking the field up on Google Maps, saw it said "Archery Club", deliberately blocked it out, and then came online to complain about a man using an Archery Club field to...do archery Hmm

Surely most people would look the field up, go "Oh! I didn't realise there was an Archery Club there" and either leave it, or look up the club on Facebook/Google?

GregJP · 25/10/2022 14:31

IroningThrone · 25/10/2022 14:08

Why the sarcasm? I simply said what I've seen in the past. Of course I'm aware that it exists. I don't think that was ever in doubt. That particular field was part of a private estate down south though. I don't think I've every seen it done on a space where people can just walk in (which is why I started this thread - it's outside my sphere of experience!)

Yes my bad on the sarcasm. But just the whole thing that developed came around from you after you screenshot the field on google maps and then blocking our Club out and then creating a debate when really you googling it answered your debate. So can you see how this has all exploded?.

GregJP · 25/10/2022 14:33

thelobsterquadrille · 25/10/2022 14:08

I don’t know why everyone is having such a go at the OP

Because she went to the effort of looking the field up on Google Maps, saw it said "Archery Club", deliberately blocked it out, and then came online to complain about a man using an Archery Club field to...do archery Hmm

Surely most people would look the field up, go "Oh! I didn't realise there was an Archery Club there" and either leave it, or look up the club on Facebook/Google?

Exactly my point.

I wouldn’t even be aware of this if a member of my club didn’t make me aware of it.

I felt I had to come on to discuss this and like everything often has two sides. I’m not saying we are perfect and of course we have all learnt lessons but getting the correct information out there is very important.

IroningThrone · 25/10/2022 14:45

When I clicked on the link it loaded a blank page. I explained that!

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girlmom21 · 25/10/2022 14:49

IroningThrone · 25/10/2022 14:45

When I clicked on the link it loaded a blank page. I explained that!

So you assumed the man doing archery was behaving dangerously rather than that the link just didn't work and try to google the club instead. Makes sense.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 25/10/2022 14:56

maddening · 25/10/2022 09:08

Shouting warnings and signs seem inadequate - what about hearing impaired, visually impaired and people unable to read or understand english

The person walking into the shooting line doesn't have to hear or understand the command.

When people are shooting, there should be a marshal present who is watching the area. This may be two people, swapping between ends, so each shoots while the other watches. When the marshal sees a potential risk, their job is to shout - "hold" or "fast", usually - and then try to clear the area. The archers do not shoot because the "hold" command applies to them - they will remove arrows from their string and wait until the range is safe.

You'd have to be bloody fast to run across the range and get into the way of an arrow between the point of no return, and the arrow hitting the target. This is particularly true in the UK as bow hunting is illegal - an archer would be culpable if a pigeon flew across in front of the targets and was hit by an arrow. Thus, we all take adequate precautions to make sure there's no risk of anyone or anything getting in the way.

Squirelnutkins · 25/10/2022 14:57

@IroningThrone

You started this thread with "I live in a village with a large public sports/playing field" , Yet you blanked out Archery Club from the image you provided.

So you knew all along it was used for archery, you actively blanked the fact out. why did you omit that from your initial post to complain. Also you claim you only blanked it out so you could not be identified, what a load of baloney.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 25/10/2022 14:59

MargaretThursday · 24/10/2022 20:15

I've been told that the university archery club in Oxford has the right to close the High Street to practice too.

Archery is a lovely sport, and the people have always been so keen to share their knowledge. My daughter has done a few sessions of disability archery (missing a hand) and loved it.

Quite possibly - but imagine the risk assessment if they wanted to actually do it 😀

That's great - I'm glad you and your daughter have had positive experiences of the sport!

IroningThrone · 26/10/2022 00:50

I'm getting semi abusive messages over this thread. Not thrilled about that, honestly. I get enough abuse in my job!

To think archery has no place on a public playing field?
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IroningThrone · 26/10/2022 00:51

This poster clearly believes that my thread on here is more important than my job where I have no access to my phone.

Genuinely pissed off over it!

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MadelineUsher · 26/10/2022 01:02

IroningThrone · 26/10/2022 00:50

I'm getting semi abusive messages over this thread. Not thrilled about that, honestly. I get enough abuse in my job!

That is truly barking mad!

IroningThrone · 26/10/2022 01:12

It's honestly so weird to me. No one has a right to demand answers. It's even more weird because the poster doesn't seem to grasp the concept that I was at work and not pouring over the thread reading every last syllable.

I'm guessing they're the person from the village who passed this on to the club.

That you, Trisha?*

(*not a real name of anyone I know in the village!)

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girlmom21 · 26/10/2022 06:55

IroningThrone · 26/10/2022 00:50

I'm getting semi abusive messages over this thread. Not thrilled about that, honestly. I get enough abuse in my job!

That's a batshit message and I'm sorry you've received that. Please report them.

Squirelnutkins · 26/10/2022 07:17

@IroningThrone Going for the sympathy vote now 🙄. Let's face it your started this thread knowing all the facts and you deliberately misled everyone blanking out the fact it was an archery club.

You have even had to drag the club into this online to defend their actions on their own grounds you had no right to be on in the first place, it's not a public right of way.

CircleofWillis · 26/10/2022 08:35

I am confused why people are being so aggressive to the OP. Not mentioning that the archery club was marked on Google maps was her only mistake.
It is evident that she has a point about lack of signage on all entrances and a valid concern for public safety. Archery Greg has confirmed this and as a PP mentioned I believe she has done him a favour.
I'm sure most of us would be concerned. I have done archery many years ago and the sessions were highly organized with signage, safety marshall's and roped off areas.

TeslasPigeon · 26/10/2022 08:59

Gosh! I wish I lived there! When I get back from the 16th Century, there is nowhere locally for me to practice (Most local archery clubs being for modern bows, rather than my traditional long-bow)

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