Can’t we just make a new party?

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Aibu to think we should just scrap all politicians and start again?

The tories: I don’t even know where to start. They won’t get my vote ever again.

labour: just seen one of them has been accused of sexual misconduct. They have dodgy values towards women. I’m not sold on Keir either.

the others: no idea. They don’t have a chance.

What is the process of setting up a new party? I want normal, ethical people from all backgrounds. Women, young, old etc. from all walks of life. I want my health secretary to have worked in the NHS, I want my chancellor to have a brilliant financial mind, i want my defence secretary to have served in armed forces etc. The best most brilliant minds in their specific area.

I do not want any of them to be power hungry middle aged Eton educated twits that think they can start up affairs with junior colleagues.

How hard is it to make a new political party?

Sounds ideal! Absolutely no idea how to do it though hopefully someone else knows!

There was one recently wasn’t there, Change UK party. Breakaways from Labour due to Antisemitism and breakaways from Tories due to Brexit. Didn’t work out.

Sorry should have added, all the MPs lost their seats in the 2019 election so it disbanded. Guess there wasn’t actually the appetite for it amongst the electorate when it’s actually came down to voting. Funding was possibly an issue too.

Exactly

It would be nice but doubt it will happen. The problem is that to get to the top of politics you have to be a certain type of person.

I don't know what the process is but I would support it.

I think that it would make a lot of sense for a new party to start and try to get as many members as possible on a simple, centrist agenda. A bit more money for the NHS, no more austerity, higher taxes on the very rich, higher taxes on corporations, taxes on turnover not profit for companies ike Amazon who shift profits abroad to avoid tax, keep men out of women's spaces, protect LGB rights, other completely uncontroversial things. I would charge £1 per member and the idea would not be for that new party to actually run itself, the idea would be for the new party to approach labour and say "ditch the insane anarcho-socialist, queer theory, no-to women's and gay rights, toddler-brained bigots and their insane policies that render you unelectable. Have 1m new members instead"

Great idea! The Electoral Commission website tells you how. We have a large number of very knowledgeable people right here on Mumsnet. Let’s do it 😀

Here you go OP - www.womensequality.org.uk/

You need to focus on getting enough people aware of it and aware of how you are realistically going to sort all the shit out. You need a hook that gets people to go ‘God yes I’ll vote for that’ while having the policies and wherewithal to back it up and people seem to only have one or the other.

I think Change UK fell flat because they thought they had a bigger platform than they did, and they used their media coverage to keep going on about how the country needed change but they seemed to have no clear vision of what that change was or how to implement it (and they may have been really clear on it themselves but tgat wasn’t communicated to the masses).
Good luck.

In my view you need a small team of leaders, and a wider team of experts, to come together to try t o put together a manifesto with the aim of making pretty much every single thing on there something that a majority can get behind.

I genuinely believe that a majority support women's rights, greater NHS funding, not giving the very rich big tax cuts, not doing anything that causes the pound to crash etc etc. The entire point of my proposed party would be to seek as wide a consensus as possible (whilst acknowledging that the ERG and racists and blue haired SJWs can never hope to be part of any sort of wide consensus).

Maybe my belief is in part based on a naive belief that the only reason labour are so insane is that are so reliant on young extremist idiots who actively want to destroy women's rights and child safeguarding, and that if they had the members to support more normal policies then they would ditch the extreme ones.

First Past the Post electoral system and too many dyed in the wool Tory and Labour voters mean this is sadly impossible.

Just Passing through 👀

#HughGrantforPM

We have a good centrist party the Lib Dems, what's wrong with voting for them?

Yes! Hugh grant for PM. And obviously Martin Lewis will be in charge of the cash.

They're part good centrist and part batshit, unfortunately.

The SDP still exists, and seems more or less sane.

Can we please have a Minister for Common Bloody Sense?

Agreed.
Most sensible European countries have PR which allows new parties get a foothold, ie 5% of the vote will get you 5% of the seats.
Unfortunately we had a referendum on PR in 2011 but Labour campaigned against it as did the Tories.

What do the Lib Dems believe in?
The party is primarily social liberal, supporting redistribution but sceptical of increasing the power of the state, emphasising the link between equality and liberty. The party supports investment and progressive taxation, but also promotes civil liberties and a less centralised economy.
Where's the batshit in this?

“the others: no idea. They don’t have a chance.” This is why setting up a new party has always been of limited effect, because of silly, throw away remarks like this. Your new party would likely go nowhere, because the country is apparently full of lazy arses who can’t really be bothered to think beyond a choice of two, and which assumes there are no serious choices beyond the two promoted by an intensely partisan (one way or the other) mainstream media. Tribalism over independent thought and research, and massive inequalities of wealth and power between the two main parties and all the others are the two main reasons alternative parties do not have a realistic chance of power in this country. Alternative voices neither get heard nor listened to (except, ironically, possibly crank ones which appeal to extremists or conspiracy theorists).

As for creating a party where politicians are experts in their field and become ministers in their area of expertise: would you put yourself forward to be an MP? We are kind of stuck with the sorts of people who volunteer to do it, it’s not like national service or jury service, where you don’t have a choice.

I think banning parties might be a better bet. Just have independents who just focus on their constituency rather than party power games.

And yes, more parties would naturally exist if we didn’t have a first past the post voting system. Local MPs representing their area and a system which aims to put a single party in government militates against a large choice.

Yeah, that would work 😂. Lots of local representatives fighting like cats in a sack and no overall discipline to decide which departments and areas get the cash and are allowed to carry through their ideas. It would make the current shower look quite self-controlled!

Not sure if the Women's Party is still going (set up by Sandi Toksvig), but at one point it had more UK members than the Green party.

I liked this guy as PM