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Cosmos123 · 17/10/2022 13:32

Is Jeremy Hunt.
He has not the slightest comprehension of how hard ordinary people's lives are.
We need to get rid of them.QUICK

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FreddyHG · 18/10/2022 09:17

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LaPerduta · 18/10/2022 09:18

So would you like all your child's teachers to be poor at their respective subjects so they knew what is was like to struggle with maths, etc.?

red4321 · 18/10/2022 09:24

Tackling inequality and poverty is an important part of being a Chancellor, but by no means the only one.

You also need to understand economics (not Truss style), the corporate environment and the financial services sector, given the latter's importance to GDP. Trash those and there'll be no money to tackle poverty.

So I don't care if someone is well-off, particularly if it comes with a track record of success in the corporate world or an understanding of how the financial markets work.

Is it not harder for someone to acquire the technical knowledge to be a chancellor than to understand the reality of being on the breadline? Yes, it's important that they understand people's financial issues, but they have to get the other parts of being Chancellor right too.

inheritanceshiteagain · 18/10/2022 09:34

Cosmos123 · 17/10/2022 13:44

The ones who have experienced hardship usually have more empathy towards those who don't have.

So that would be Angela Rayner then?
Another way of looking at it is that the genetic component of rich people is a desire to strive for a better life, understand how business works and be financially savvy. Being rich does not make you less empathetic. It was a lord mansfield who declared slavery unlawful in the UK. It was the rich who campaigned for its abolition.

People who come from poor backgrounds may have come from low achieving, low aspirational families who expect 'the state' to provide for them. Are they really fit to govern.

inheritanceshiteagain · 18/10/2022 09:34

I don't like Jeremy Hunt though, but his ancestry has nothing to do with it.

CredibilityProblem · 18/10/2022 09:38

Georgeskitchen · 18/10/2022 08:38

Posted to soon. Despite (Labour mps) claiming to be in touch with the common people, ie: grew up on bread and water, shared a pair of shoes with my brother and had to hop to school, going up chimneys aged 3, it's mainly a load of old bllcks. Most when to private school, Most have a second home, all claim the massive parliamentary expenses, use the subsidised bars, restaurants etc.
Some folk seem to believe that only Tory MPs have their snouts on the trough. Untrue. They ALL.do

Not remotely true that most Labour MPs went to private school. Probably more than the average percentage of the UK population (although the 7% figure normally used for that is misleadingly low) but way less than half.
www.suttontrust.com/our-research/parliamentary-privilege-the-mps-2017-education-background/

Look at the front bench. Starmer, Reeves, Rayner, Lammy, Cooper, all state educated. Dodds went to a private secondary school.

Parliamentary expenses are a problem, but it's not as simple as "snouts in the trough". If your employer required you to spend half your time in Westminster and half in Durham, what expenses would you want to claim?

Jackienory · 18/10/2022 09:51

facefit · 17/10/2022 13:44

Speak for yourself. Not everyone is broken

Exactly. And Sir Kier Starmer is worth £7.7m, that's about £ 7m more than Boris.

Dorisbonson · 18/10/2022 09:57

Cosmos123 · 17/10/2022 13:42

It is about privilege with unimaginable wealth telling ordinary people we have to tighten our belts again and again.
There is no more to give.
We are broken and poor.
It has to stop.

By your logic aid workers from the west can't possibly understand what it is like to have Malaria or live in an earthquake zone so should be totally cut out of any relief efforts and their planning and advice totally ignored.

Equally by your logic my sister in law can't understand what her mute quadriplegic son needs because she isn't a mute quadriplegic.

Or does your logic only work in some scenarios where it suits your argument?

Btw I don't like Jeremy Hunt but think your argument is rubbish.

BigWoollyJumpers · 18/10/2022 10:06

Cosmos123 · 17/10/2022 13:32

Is Jeremy Hunt.
He has not the slightest comprehension of how hard ordinary people's lives are.
We need to get rid of them.QUICK

Who exactly is this mythical ordinary person though OP. In the same way you are judging a person by their background or parents, on whether they have empathy, why should athat ordinary person, empathetic or not, be able to run a multi trillion pound company UK Plc? Do they have the expertise as well as the empathy?

hattie43 · 18/10/2022 10:23

Dotjones · 17/10/2022 13:50

Well you wouldn't want Labour in then, Sir Kier is worth several million.

Tony Blair hasn't done too bad for himself either .
Love a champagne socialist .

BackOnTheBandWagon · 18/10/2022 10:47

Leakygutter · 17/10/2022 18:00

The electoate doesn't generally want ordinary people in charge. Angela Rayner is a prime example. What's she's achieved from where she came from is amazing and yet even working class people will tell you she's incompetent, just because of how she looks and sounds.

You get what you vote for. It's not like no one knew the Tories were predominantly over privileged public schoolboys.

It's more what Angela Rayner says which makes me think she's incompetent. (Yes I'm a Labour voter)

luckylavender · 18/10/2022 10:54

Whitepouringglue · 17/10/2022 13:39

I'd rather have Labour but your reasons are crap.

This

red4321 · 18/10/2022 11:02

It's more what Angela Rayner says which makes me think she's incompetent. (Yes I'm a Labour voter)

Me too. I don't think there's much substance below her chat.

I'm a Conservative voter but, as an upstanding person, I preferred Starmer to Johnson. I know he's described as being robotic but he destroyed BJ in PMQs. I loved seeing Starmer turn to his post it note on page 87 of a key report that Boris clearly hadn't opened.

I have a feeling that KS would rather be free of the TU backing but doesn't have that option, hence being pilloried for constantly being on the fence.

greenhousegal · 18/10/2022 11:04

Oh well, the drugs in the water course have certainly hit home. The man is a Tory, he had no empathy or respect for NHS and doctors, he is not Liz Truss or Kwasi K, and that is making people sigh with relief, but the bar is so low now that few could limbo dance under it.

Any port in a storm I suspect. And while it probably doesn't matter a lot about privileged backgrounds, I would not be blinded by him either. It is just because anyone speaking anyway normally from the Government side is lulling people into a false sense of security. Which is exactly what they want.

Granddadwentdownthepit · 18/10/2022 11:38

CredibilityProblem · 18/10/2022 09:38

Not remotely true that most Labour MPs went to private school. Probably more than the average percentage of the UK population (although the 7% figure normally used for that is misleadingly low) but way less than half.
www.suttontrust.com/our-research/parliamentary-privilege-the-mps-2017-education-background/

Look at the front bench. Starmer, Reeves, Rayner, Lammy, Cooper, all state educated. Dodds went to a private secondary school.

Parliamentary expenses are a problem, but it's not as simple as "snouts in the trough". If your employer required you to spend half your time in Westminster and half in Durham, what expenses would you want to claim?

From what I can see, Starmer (post grad at Oxford), Cooper and Lammy (Harvard Law) went to selective schools. Nor would I class the school in Bromley that Reeves (Oxford, LSE) went to as a bog standard comprehensive either.

What does get my goat is just how many Labour MPs benefitted from an education that their party's own policies have put out of reach of the majority of their voter base.

Abolition of grammar schools? Labour
Introduction of tuition fees? Labour
Abolition of the majority of maintenance grants? Labour.

By all means slag the current government off but let's not try and pretend that the Labour benches went to the same kind of school they expect their voters to attend.

SparklyLeprechaun · 18/10/2022 11:43

So should we just grab some random poor person off the street then and make them chancellor, since they'd be perfectly equipped for the job? I don't care how much politicians are worth as long as they are competent (I'm not sure Hunt is competent, but that's a different story)

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 18/10/2022 12:13

Take heed Op, there'll be no slagging off the any Tory member on here, tut tut.

Georgeskitchen · 18/10/2022 12:42

Who remembers "two jags Prescott "
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saraclara · 18/10/2022 13:24

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 18/10/2022 12:13

Take heed Op, there'll be no slagging off the any Tory member on here, tut tut.

Don't be ridiculous. Lots of us have made it clear that we wouldn't vote Tory in a million years. But we still think OP is still wrong in her premise.

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 13:47

Dotjones · 17/10/2022 13:50

Well you wouldn't want Labour in then, Sir Kier is worth several million.

He wasn’t always. His childhood was very ordinary.

jcyclops · 18/10/2022 14:49

Hunt may not be a great politician or chancellor, but it's not his background that is the problem.

Maybe we should have a chancellor who is a big fan of quantitative easing, who wants to be tougher on cutting the benefits bill, who wants to force the long term unemployed to take a job or have their benefits cut, who says that they don’t want to be seen as the party to represent those who are out of work. Someone who is against freedom of movement for workers between the UK and EU, and someone who thinks their constituency is "like a tinderbox" that could explode if immigration is not curbed. Step forward Rachel Reeves - but you'll be OK because you went to a state school and your parents are only middle class.

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