Multi millionaire son of an admiral

[Cosmos123]

Is Jeremy Hunt.
He has not the slightest comprehension of how hard ordinary people's lives are.
We need to get rid of them.QUICK

I don’t wish to have someone who knowingly brought the NHS to its knees during his six year tenure as health sec. to be in charge of the economy.

Completely wrong. We don't need people to "be like us," we just need them to be educated & competent. If that includes taking unpopular decisions, so be it.
Incidentally, the most unsympathetic doctor I ever saw was female - at a family planning clinic. It convinced me that any future gynae issues might actually be best discussed with a male, as at least they wouldn't be pretending to "know what it's like" but would simply be using their professional knowledge & experience.

Wasn't that the argument which gave Liz the edge over Rishi. Look how that turned out.

The ones who have experienced hardship usually have more empathy towards those who don't have.

I also don't agree with this. It depends on how much awareness, wish to understand how others live, empathy and sense of fairness a person has. That isnt class dependent . The person I know who is the most furious about this governments actions, and who does the most to help those around them, is very wealthy indeed and comes from a military family/expensive boarding school background. They are empathic, compassionate and practically and very quietly, puts their hand in their pocket to support people they know are struggling .

Hunt's and his family are well connected that's for sure but the implication in the thread title that "Admiral" automatically means loaded/well to do/from a landed background is a bit flawed.

I know of one Ford's Dagenham apprentice who left the car industry, joined one of the other services and rose to the equivalent rank of Vice Admiral and another ex Grammar student (sixties style, Grammar, state ) who made full Admiral equivalent and was in all probability headed for Chief of the Defence staff before sadly fate intervened.

Exactly. Had he not been too wealthy for the voters' comfort, he'd have got the job, as we wouldn't be in this disastrous situation.

"...AND, we wouldn't.." Not as

The electoate doesn't generally want ordinary people in charge. Angela Rayner is a prime example. What's she's achieved from where she came from is amazing and yet even working class people will tell you she's incompetent, just because of how she looks and sounds.

You get what you vote for. It's not like no one knew the Tories were predominantly over privileged public schoolboys.

Voters didn't choose Truss. I suspect the main reason the members selected her was because she promised to be Maggie mark II and she wasn't an ethnic minority.

Sunak might be difficult for the electorate, but that's not because of his wealth alone, it's because of the tax fiddles and the lack of commitment to the country that having a wife who is "temporarily" resident suggests. Cameron and Johnson are both wealthy, it didn't stop them.

I don’t want a banana tree in charge of the banana plantation actually.

I don't think anyone one person's immense wealth disqualifies them for a job.

I do think that there is a problem with most senior politicians (especially the Tories) being recruited from privilege. The UK has poor social mobility and the same is true of many top careers.

I would suggest JH's track record of running the NHS into the ground is what should disqualify him from a secretary of state job but that is probably what Truss likes about him.

Yes they did. The voters were only few in number, but the members of the Conservative party decided via a vote who would be PM. That makes them voters.

I came on to say this.
His private education would have been subsidised by the government for example

Voters didn't choose any of them.

The tory membership (under 80k people) rejected Rishi for PM

Because he's BROWN not coz he is RICH. They didn't think their actual voting public would tolerate that.

We are overdue a GE by several months, Boris should have called one.

He trained and worked as a doctor, so he would have had some insight. Also, it gives him credibility in terms of a certain level of intelligence and empathy for the ordinary person's challenges and condition.

You're confusing him with someone else. Hunt studied PPE and worked as a management consultant/entrepreneur before going into politics.

Unless you're replying to someone else's comment and referring to a different "he".

I've found the people who have had hardship is often the nose hard can't hear different views.

I am reminded by a programme some years ago where they gor children of celebrities to go back to their parents roots and live there for a week. Gordon Ramseys son was one of them and at the end he is trying to explain to his had how hard it is to make it out of there and GR. Simply can't get past the "no if you work hard it will.come.to you"

I watched my.mother work hard her entire life "it' never came to her.

You can have empathy for a situation you have never been in yourself.

Despite MPs of other parties (Labour mostly) claiming to be in touch with the comm

Posted to soon. Despite (Labour mps) claiming to be in touch with the common people, ie: grew up on bread and water, shared a pair of shoes with my brother and had to hop to school, going up chimneys aged 3, it's mainly a load of old bllcks. Most when to private school, Most have a second home, all claim the massive parliamentary expenses, use the subsidised bars, restaurants etc.
Some folk seem to believe that only Tory MPs have their snouts on the trough. Untrue. They ALL.do

At what age do we stop being judged by the achievements (or otherwise) of our parents?

When do we start being judged for our own achievements? (JH started a successful educational resources company and sold it for squillions before he went into politics).

OP your political debating skills need some improvement. Any decent sixth form debating society would manage to point out the flaws in your premise.

Disagree. Might be a good start but we still have to prove ourselves.

Exactly.

I'm another one who can't believe I'm defending Jeremy Hunt...him growing up with privilege doesn't mean he'll be bad at his job.

It's an immature outlook.

I’m sure you could look at lots of politicians generally and find privilege amongst most of them.

I liked the media “return of austerity”

I didn’t think we’d left it