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66 replies

justcantchoose · 14/10/2022 19:14

If a number of people resign from a company because of poor pay compared to other companies (there's a 3 month notice period) and then head management contact 2 of the 5 employees before their notice period is over and offers them significantly more money to stay, but they don't offer the other 3 employees more money then is this legal/ok?

OP posts:
IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 14/10/2022 20:18

Those that resigned with jobs to go to prove their market value. Those that didn't havn't.

ChicCroissant · 14/10/2022 20:29

OP, you resigned. You looked for a new job and accepted it. Don't let the fact that you were not approached to stay affect your view of the new job, or the reasons why you are leaving your current one. Time to look forward, not back. Good luck with the new role.

Pinkyxx · 14/10/2022 20:39

The company opted to try and retain some of the staff who resigned, which is their prerogative. If you resigned then I really can't see there being any issue.

justcantchoose · 14/10/2022 20:40

Yeah I guess.
I think I'm just annoyed as I was bloody good at that job. I know the job, and the processes, and I've never had a disciplinary or disliked any colleagues.
I trained up numerous other staff and was well regarded there by colleagues and other parts of the business.
It would have been the easy option to stay and get offered more money, rather than have to learn everything again, meet new colleagues, systems, policies etc.

OP posts:
Schoolchoicesucks · 14/10/2022 20:43

No, of course they can do this.

They haven't "let you go", they just haven't counter offered your resignation.
You weren't pushed out or discriminated against, you saw a better opportunity and took it.
They're not obliged to try to reverse your decision.

Did you have the exact same job as the 2 they have counter offered to? Were you paid the same? Performed the same?

You've not lost anything. I hope the new job works out for you

HunterHearstHelmsley · 14/10/2022 20:49

There's not really any point in reporting it to HR. What can you say? I resigned and they've accepted my notice.

As others have said, there are likely reasons they want to retain those two specific members of staff.

Enjoy the new job!

honeylulu · 14/10/2022 21:30

It's annoying for you but perfectly legal. My employer recently merged with a bigger firm and those of us at senior level were on notice of redundancy... but invited to apply for a new position (suspiciously akin to the old one) at a better salary.

Results are in and they've evidently used this as an exercise to cream off what they see as the best/ most profitable staff and get rid of what they see as the dead wood. The chosen ones have an enhanced salary. The non chosen have a statutory redundancy package.

The punchline ... it's a law firm, and yes, we do employment law.

justcantchoose · 14/10/2022 21:42

Yeah. I reckon I'm just angry. I'll sleep on it and see how I feel tomorrow. But I think you're all right that there's nothing I can do about it. I just feel like it's soured my new job, and also I have to work a stupidly long notice period with people I know have been offered a pay rise to stay. It's just uncomfortable.

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Notimetothink · 14/10/2022 21:47

You won’t lose the shares but you’ll have to cash them in at whatever value they are on the day you leave.

Sapphire387 · 14/10/2022 21:51

I'm a trade union official and from what you have said here, I'd struggle to be able to make a case for you, to be honest. You resigned from the post. Unless there were serious issues or something beforehand that made your position untenable, in which case you might be able to look at constructive dismissal... but those cases are notoriously hard to win.

HundredMilesAnHour · 14/10/2022 21:55

Notimetothink · 14/10/2022 21:47

You won’t lose the shares but you’ll have to cash them in at whatever value they are on the day you leave.

Not necessarily. It depends on the employer's policy.

Karlaatthecircus · 14/10/2022 22:58

So this is perfectly legal unless you can clearly prove it was discrimination. The bar to prove that is quite high and in this case offering retention legally you are unlikely to win

VoiceOfCommonSense · 15/10/2022 00:54

Yeah I fell like the plan was for you all to walk out thinking you screwed the company over by all leaving at once and it hasn’t happened according to plan. Seems like they are happy to clear out the deadwood. OP seems bitter about it and is looking for reasons like oh I’m older and oh I have kids.

deathofthesnark · 15/10/2022 06:03

Notimetothink · 14/10/2022 21:47

You won’t lose the shares but you’ll have to cash them in at whatever value they are on the day you leave.

Depends if they're sharesave (monthly saving plan to get to the end and get your share - cash back if term not reached) and/or matching where op buys x shares a month, and then when held for x months she gets a number.

All of these are "handcuffs" to make you stay. She won't lose anything on these except the possibility of them

Of course this is only speculation- but what has happened in my previous jobs

Crim576 · 20/12/2022 20:47

I work in HR. Giving out your personal phone number could be considered a gdpr breach if it's given to someone who isn't your line manager and doesn't have a genuine need for it (as I understand from your OP this guy isn't your manager). At my organisation we don't even give personal numbers to managers, it's up to them to get it from colleagues directly so they can consent. Every company is different though and yours could have policies in place which state otherwise.

I also agree that he shouldnt be contacting you late in the evening on your personal number to arrange a meeting. Nor should he have said you were "mentally ill". You could raise a grievance as other pps have suggested but if it was me I would just let it go. It depends on what you'd hope to achieve from raising a grievance.

Crim576 · 20/12/2022 20:49

Omg I have somehow replied to the wrong post please ignore this !!! Blush

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