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If a number of people resign from a company because of poor pay compared to other companies (there's a 3 month notice period) and then head management contact 2 of the 5 employees before their notice period is over and offers them significantly more money to stay, but they don't offer the other 3 employees more money then is this legal/ok?

You chose to resign

The two they offered, they want to keep.

The other three they don't!

Maybe the two are better at their job?

Ultimately I'll put a report in with my HR. I just feel like I've been discriminated against, when other staff members have been spoken to by management, offered pay rises and asked to stay.
As soon as we resigned our manager said that the big managers would probably want to speak to staff A and staff B as they didn't want to lose them.

You resigned! Why would HR be interested?

You haven't been discriminated against

You handed in your notice, they accepted it.

They handed in their notice, company decided they wanted to keep them

That would have been true with 5 of you in post. Now, with three whole salaries spare, they can afford to raise the salaries of the two remaining and still make big savings.

As I said before, it's the 3 older staff with young children that's been let go with no pay rise. The younger 2 with no kids, no partners, still living at home have been offered pay rises.
The older 3 have far far more service time and experience.

Your pension isn't going to disappear! It's still there, so that's irrelevant!

You've not been let go, you resigned!

You play with fire, you get your fingers burnt.

They don't think you're worth more money, they're happy to let you go.

I've seen colleagues who were leaving be asked to reconsider. No extra money (we're nhs tbf so no scope) but being asked if anything could be done to change their mind.

The ones not asked were the ones they didn't really want to stay anyway. I actually think there were some they were glad to be rid of tbh.

Nobody has been “let go”, you resigned!

I’m beginning to think I’m seeing their reasoning…

Are you sure this isn't a case of sour grapes?

Most organisations would try to keep the employees who are better, who they get on with, who don't cause problems and are basically a PITA.

There's currently an employee in my organisation, who is apparently very good at their job, but is an absolute nightmare to manage. If that person resigned, we'd crack open the 🍾

The only thing you’ll ‘lose’ from that list is extra holiday entitlement. Presumably the company you’re going to has good benefits too?

If you lose your money paid into pensions and share-save schemes then you’re being taken for a ride.

Just enjoy your new job and move on

More service time, more holiday, more share options, more to pay out should redundancies be on the horizon

Doesn't need a brain surgeon or rocket scientist to work that out (and also allows them to get rid of the pain in the arse...)

They’re not bothered you’re going and you chose to resign. They now have more money to offer the people they value and want to stay. Your high opinion of yourself is not shared by them.

You have not been let go, you have resigned, do you not see the difference?

you say you were told no pay rise, did you actually make a business case to why you should get paid more? Did you have that discussion one to one?

plus you have not been discriminated against, you would have a case if it was redundancy but you resigned.

The fact that you have kids is irrelevant and HR won’t care.

You handed your notice in. There no rule where if you try to retain one member of staff, then you must try and retain all.

As you have all worked there over 2 years, the managers are aware of your personally and decided, that they would prefer to retain 2 and the other 3 can leave. They can do that.

I think you enough resigning would force your employers hand to raise your wage. It’s a risky game and you have to prepared to leave if they don’t counter.

I have a couple of high performers. I would not attempt to retain them because they are also a pain to manage. It’s not always about how good someone is in their job. And there’s no obligation to try and retain you.

HR will have been aware some people have been retained.

The more you post, the less of mystery it is why they didn't make waves to keep you.

Complaining to HR that your resignation was accepted and they didn't beg you to stay. Good luck with that. 😂

I remember someone at my work trying the ‘I am leaving’ trick to try and force a pay rise. You could tell on his last day, he didn’t want to go and seemed a bit bewildered that he was actually having to leave. As though it was a complete surprise

I remember your earlier thread weighing up which job to take, OP. If you went for the one I’m thinking, it sounds like you’ve moved for a very small salary uplift (£2k), and lower benefits.

This is 100% on you.

Was the third job in my previous thread. But a different role to what I was offered. So better pay than anticipated.

Then surely it was silly to resign??

They've done nothing wrong, unethical though it may seem.

You resigned. You are not employed by them. They are now employing the other people on different terms. One contract ends. Another starts. They chose the ones they wanted and got them.

I’m an employment lawyer. You resigned to go to a new company for more pay and not because of age discrimination. I’m not sure what you will achieve by complaining to HR as they don’t owe you the right to be offered more money to stay and they may give you reasons why you were not considered necessary to retain, which is nothing to do with their age and everything to do with the reasons other PP have suggested. I’d personally hate to be told why I was not considered important enough to the company to try and keep. I’d retain your pride and move on.

So what’s the issue?