To call out this Cheaky fuc**ry!

[Mustofbeennice]

NC for this

So I have just been ‘let go’ from a temporary seasonal job. The reason given is because that sales are down and they are having to cut down yet, I am the only person being permanently ‘cut’.

The training was completely unorganised and many of us, didn’t know what was going on. Now, if I don’t know what’s happening I don’t suffer in silence I always ask so maybe that was my mistake. We where not paid for training meaning not only won’t I be getting any money, but I have lost around £40 in various expenses. And To top it all off, on one of the training day (BTW I, along with one other person, were the only people that attended every training session!) They had me doing a task that was had nothing to do with my role, not my responsibility and ruined my best pair of boots.

Today (We open tomorrow) I received the text informing me of my dismissal, with the absolute cheek of
‘but could you be on stand by in case a spare is needed’. 🤬🤬
Text was sugar coated that others had been let go but after speaking to one of the other people I was told that, one person (themselves) where told not to come but only for tomorrow due to the train strikes and not being able to get in, and the other 2 (a couple) were never doing tomorrow but are still on board in another department (they are also the co directors, so doubt they have been ‘let go’).

I am now torn on what to do between the following options:

1. Reply to the director, expressing my anger and feeling (in a calm profession way)
2. Put a passive aggressive message in the group chat saying gutted I have been let go but

thinking them for opportunity and ‘fun times’, before then leaving the chat

1. Just block the director, leave the group chat and move on
2. Be even more of a doormat and agree to being a reserve.

Should mention that because this is casual work, no contact was signed and was to be paid cash in hand.

Just feel so used. I really struggle to get a job (unfortunately I do feel ableism plays a massive part) and really needed this money😒

Anyway please let me know how I should handle this because part of me doesn’t want to just leave it and I don’t want them
to think they can get away with treating anyone this way, thanks

Is this some kind of Hallowe’en thing?
Option 3, but make a note to yourself to be more assertive about not doing things that will ruin your clothes! How did you spend £40? Was that transport to attend training sessions? If at all possible I’d walk away from anything with unpaid “training” and “trials”.

You opened yourself up to this risk by attending in the first place. Chalk it down as a learning experience. They don't owe you anything, just accept the dumping, and don't be a doormat, available if something blows up in their face.

Legally you should be paid for training. If they refuse, contact ACAS.

I’m sorry but ‘cash in hand’ is both CF for them to offer and for you to take.

Lesson learned, I’m afraid.

if you want to vent, you could always report them for not paying NI:
www.gov.uk/report-tax-fraud

You probably won't want to hear this, but these sorts of not very legal jobs don't want to change things, improve things, do anything differently, they thrive on employing desperate and pliable people to put up and shut up in the knowledge that they can dob employees in to the benefits and/or visa office as quickly as employees can grass them up to HMRC.
You're not a good fit for this sort of business model. Have you thought of getting a job in a council somewhere? They tend to have lots of standardised operating procedures and to be very accommodating of disabilities etc.
What's the point of calling it out? All you're doing is proving their point for them and burning more bridges.

Sneaky Shattary

agree with this

You were happy to shaft others but annoyed you have been shafted. Cash in hand - no tax, many claim benefits etc. You too are a cheeky fucker.

I doubt it’s able-ist anyway - I expect they have an exemplary record of inclusivity when it comes to shafting people.

This.

Cash in hand is illegal surely ? No tax , no nI etc . If it was a proper job in the first place then I should imagine all these would have needed setting up . Move on and don't look for cash in hand jobs again.

unless the training was an 8 hour trial shift it is illegal not to pay for training

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No, the job was just for the month of October, it was a role playing job but wasn’t a ‘halloween’ themed job.
I’m annoyed with myself because I knew that all the red flags were visible but it wasn’t that I I didn’t know this job was dodgy. I didn’t care

I have been so desperate for money recently and I have been really really struggling financially especially with the cost of living crisis I have really been finding it difficult.

Unfortunately pretty much every job nowadays come with some form of unspayed trial or training which is mandatory if you wanna work. Ironically, if I had been paid all I have worked all the various job interviews, Trial shifts and other unpaid training I would have over £1000 to my name for Just this year!

In what why am I proving their point? throughout the training I got on well with everyone .

and I don’t see how any conditions I have effected my performance

When was I ‘shafting’ others?

As for accusing me of tax dodging
is completely unfair and ridiculous. as someone who is self-employed, I would always discloses any income received but have never reached the income limit of 12,000 to do so.

Is cash in hand illegal?
while I know it’s very uncommon nowadays to receive cash in hand I was unaware it was actually illegal.

I would always discloses any income received but have never reached the income limit of 12,000 to do so.

You're meant to do a self assessment if you earn more than £1,000.

But they sound shady as fuck. Cash in hand isn't illegal if all the income tax and NI is paid. But I get the feeling that's not the case here.

Being dismissed doesn't sound like self employment.

You have to do a sa tax return if you earn over £1000 in a year.

Being paid in cash is not illegal but cash in hand tends to mean 'under the table' which very much is illegal.

If your shoes were ruined should you have been given work boots? I don’t think you’d get anywhere complains to be honest…. but it’s hard to say.

I don’t think OP is shafting anyone- if anything sounds like you are out of pocket.

As others have said it’s over 1K. If you aren’t earning that much you should be receiving benefits- which are means tested 🤦🏻‍♀️

How are you self employed if you are working for others? Even if it is cash in hand.

Agree to be on reserve but when they need you, you suddenly can't do it?

ok without going into to much details I am an ‘actor’ in theory (hence the self employment).

i don’t own £1000 per year though acting at best between 500-800.

there is a reason why I’m not on universal credit, but I can’t really get into this as it’s a complete other thread (although it’s beginning to looks like I will have no choice either to be on it very soon anyway).

i Have learnt my lesson, and just have to accept it. Just sucks