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AIBU?

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Neighbours - what can I do?

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Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 10:28

I’m in an end terrace house in a cul de sac. There are small car parks either side of my terrace, the other houses in the road either park on the street or on their driveways.

My front door opens directly into the car park nearest to my house.
I’m H1 (house 1). Me and my partner share a car but he mostly uses it as he works full time and I stay home.

H2 (next to me) have 1 car + guests everyday

H3 (adjacent to me) have 2 cars and a campervan

H4 (next to h3) have 1 car + 1 abandoned car that has been there for 8ish years as it still has a tax disc on. Can’t be moved, registered as sorn

There is 5 spaces in the car park.
No outlined spaces to say who can park where.
AIBU to expect my partner to be able to come home from work and park in the car park where our front door is?

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girlmom21 · 07/10/2022 12:03

That might just be the worst diagram I've ever seen

Jaxhog · 07/10/2022 12:15

Whammyyammy · 07/10/2022 10:38

If the parking is public and not private, how can the neighbours delegate who parks there? Its not their land and living by it doesn't give you automatic rights to it .I could park there if I wanted.

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If the parking is public, how can they Sorn a car parked there?

TrashyPanda · 07/10/2022 12:16

is your lease/tenancy agreement silent as regards parking spaces?
or does it contain the exclusive right to use a specific parking space?
or does it contain a right to use any of the parking spaces?

unless your lease/tenancy agreement gives you the right to sole use of a specific parking space, you cannot interfere with a neighbour parking there.

its irrelevant what the listing said. It was superseded by the lease/tenancy agreement

StressedToTheMaxxx · 07/10/2022 12:20

I didn't think SORN vehicles could be kept in anything other that a person's own private land?

girlmom21 · 07/10/2022 12:22

StressedToTheMaxxx · 07/10/2022 12:20

I didn't think SORN vehicles could be kept in anything other that a person's own private land?

Id say there's a good probability that they own and it's actually in their deeds that there is allocated parking

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Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:25

@StressedToTheMaxxx that’s correct, not sure this car park is classed as public land though would need to check

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TeaMoreToast · 07/10/2022 12:25

Ask your ll about allocated parking. If neighbours are moaning about you parking outside their house, ignore. You've just as much right to park there as anyone else.

You could point out you would prefer to park in the car park!

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Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:25

@girlmom21 there’s not even actual parking spaces it’s just concrete

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Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:27

I know the legalities of it, I just wouldn’t dream of parking next to someone’s front door and making them park in the next street when I could park in front of my house.

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girlmom21 · 07/10/2022 12:28

Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:27

I know the legalities of it, I just wouldn’t dream of parking next to someone’s front door and making them park in the next street when I could park in front of my house.

But I'm confused because the car park isn't in front of their houses is it?

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Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:29

@girlmom21 it is in front of mine, mt front door opens into the car park

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girlmom21 · 07/10/2022 12:29

OP you just need to speak to your landlord and find out what the deal is, realistically.

girlmom21 · 07/10/2022 12:30

Yeah it's in front of your house but nobody else's. The space in front of you is the closest to everyone's front doors, isn't it? So they all want the closest spots

NoSquirrels · 07/10/2022 12:30

I don’t get why all their guests have to park outside my front door yet my partner has to park in the other road because they moan if we park outside their house.

He can keep parking outside their house. When they moan, he can say well I can’t park outside my own house because you’re parked there.

You can’t really do anything in this scenario except come to an agreement with the neighbours. If they’re unreasonable your choices are a) suck it up and seethe inwardly or b) be as unreasonable as them and not give a shit when they moan.

Babymamma192 · 07/10/2022 12:36

I think you can report the SORN car online if you go on the tax checker put the reg in and then I think you can report it and there is a box you can type in so just put something like ' car SORN but parked in a public car park'

puddleduckle · 07/10/2022 12:40

YABU to expect to be able to park somewhere that isn’t legally yours. To me, it sounds the same as someone expecting to be able to park on the road outside their house - it’s nice to be able to do so but you can’t bank on it. As long as there is some parking available, what difference does it make if it’s the space next to your front door or a couple more steps away?

LookItsMeAgain · 07/10/2022 12:44

girlmom21 · 07/10/2022 12:03

That might just be the worst diagram I've ever seen

I would have to agree. Having seen some of the other parking diagrams over the while on MN, that one....yikes!

Could you draw it on a piece of paper, take a photograph of that drawing and attach the photo to a post, or scan it in??

You shouldn't have to park further away to suit someone else. Check whatever space is allocated to your home (doesn't matter if you're renting or if you're a homeowner) and just park in it. If you are a renter, direct any questions relating to the parking to your landlord. Let them deal with your neighbours.

whynotwhatknot · 07/10/2022 12:45

do you mean its private parking-if not they cant leave a sorn car there

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Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:52

How can you tell if it’s private or not? Someone comes round and does all the weeds but I haven’t seen them to know if it’s council or not

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whynotwhatknot · 07/10/2022 13:00

usually a sign somewhere

Clementine8 · 07/10/2022 13:06

As pp have said speak to your landlord and ask them where the 2 spaces are

theemmadilemma · 07/10/2022 13:11

You could just look on the land registry yourself. It's only £3 I think.

Download the plans. If a particular space is indicated it could be helpful. If they were (an in a similar set up we all did have our own spaces on the plans) you could mark yours out and number it. One of the new neighbours in ours did it, and after that everyone else did theirs. It just stopped arguments.

GloriousGlory · 07/10/2022 13:16

Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:27

I know the legalities of it, I just wouldn’t dream of parking next to someone’s front door and making them park in the next street when I could park in front of my house.

Why don't you park in front of their house?

TrashyPanda · 07/10/2022 13:47

Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 12:52

How can you tell if it’s private or not? Someone comes round and does all the weeds but I haven’t seen them to know if it’s council or not

Why are you concerned?
its their business.
your lease/tenancy agreement appears to be silent as regards parking spaces, which means you have no right to any of them. For all you know, the landlord could be renting the space to your neighbours.

if you are so concerned, go online and investigate all the titles to all the houses. Do they contain the parking spaces? If so, do they own the spaces outright, or do they have a right to use them or a pro indiviso right of ownership between them? You may find the Land Register details the ownership of the parking spaces.

the answer to this will determine your next steps. It may be that you then require to trace title back to owner of the major area of land, and then determine if the parking spaces are retained in their ownership. They may have been sold to a different party.

tracing titles like this can be a complicated business and requires knowledge of the law and of the systems used to register titles to land. There are companies which specialise in tracing titles to land, but this can be an expensive and time consuming process and there is never any guarantee of finding ownership. As a rough guide, expect to pay from around £150 an hour for a professional searcher.

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Sophieleigh26 · 07/10/2022 13:56

@TrashyPanda because their abandoned car has been taking up a parking space for the last 8 years

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