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AIBU?

Mixed sex toilets

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Wichit · 04/10/2022 01:15

I work for an organisation that employs about 250 people. We have high staff turnover and a lot of us work hybrid.

A few months ago all our toilets at work got changed to mixed sex. They are self contained individual cubicles. We didn't get consulted or anything, just got to work on Monday and every toilet had a joint man and woman sign.

About a month ago I went to use the loo, opened the door and there was a bloke already in there with his back to me. He turned around when I opened the door. He was semi undressed and I could clearly see his lad etc.

Lots of apologies, swift door close etc. I hadn't actually met him previously due to hybrid and high turnover.

It made me feel uncomfortable. I don't know the guy.

I raised with my line manager that this new toilet policy is potentially putting staff in tricky situations and he told me to take it to HR. Which I did and their response is that he probably forgot to close the door.

Well I mean yeah hopefully so, but nobody has any way of knowing that and anyway that is not the issue. The issue is that my employer should not be facilitating a set-up where such ambiguous encounters can happen. I think, anyway. AIBU?

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BirdinaHedge · 04/10/2022 12:02

How many men have to have this same " accident " until we stop calling it an accident?

yes I was thinking the same - how much of an “accident” or “mistake” is this?

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KimberleyClark · 04/10/2022 12:02

Maybe the lock was defective.

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lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2022 12:02

But men do other things than pee in there too

This is true.

There are plenty of videos of the things that men get up to in toilets available on the internet if you look for them. (I wouldn't recommend it).

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Whatwouldscullydo · 04/10/2022 12:03

But they don't close the door.

Its not up to women to keep trying to " parent " the men by running to hr getting them to write emails. They don't get to adulthood not knowing about doors. They don't care.

I mean look at the home office. No one used the mixed loos there either. Emails do jack.

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Musti · 04/10/2022 12:07

I would hate a mixed toilet and I would be suspicious if he didn’t leave the door unlocked on purpose for the thrill - who the hell doesn’t lock a public toilet door?? I never close the toilet door at home if it’s just me or the kids but I have never forgotten to lock the door of a toilet because I didn’t want a stranger walking in on me whilst in the toilet.

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ForestDad · 04/10/2022 12:08

I'd suggest a note above the loo reminding people that it's a mixed sex toilet and to always lock the door. (And maybe leave how you like to find etc). If this is above the toilet it would be right on stand up wee man eyeline.
Rather than bother HR just get your laminator out one quiet moment?

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mrsjohnnylawrence · 04/10/2022 12:10

but @cbatopainttheshed what you describe are not mixed sex toilets, you describe single cubicle toilets and I am assuming from the post, perhaps wrongly? that there is a shared mixed sex area in the OP's case?

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mrsjohnnylawrence · 04/10/2022 12:12

I have never seen a shared area for a toilet on a train or plane @KimberleyClark
Have you? That would be a mixed sex toilets.

I think on trains they are single use toilets, which are not mixed sex, but single use. No shared area.

The toilet in my house is not mixed sex, it's single use; one at a time.

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NoodleNooNoo · 04/10/2022 12:22

At my work there used to be three types of toilets: mens, disabled and womens toilets. Now there are mens, disabled and gender neutal toilets.

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WillPowerLite · 04/10/2022 12:22

I have never forgotten to lock the door of a public toilet. Ever. I think that is the experience of most women. And likely most men.

I'd say 'he forgot' is the least likely explanation.

There are other explanations, not all of them pervy. But whatever it is, he should be explaining himself to HR and issuing an apology to the OP.

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InCheesusWeTrust · 04/10/2022 12:23

I did tbf at airport😳

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queenMab99 · 04/10/2022 12:28

HR saying he forgot to shut the door, is like saying flashers forgot to zip their fly. Why would he turn around when he heard someone enter?

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Simonjt · 04/10/2022 12:30

We have these, I once walked in on my new boss as she hadn’t locked the door, it opens up into reception as well, luckily it wasn’t busy so she didn’t have a huge audience. We now have a laminated sign and we tend to either knock, or open the door a tiny bit to give someone the chance to shout.

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starray · 04/10/2022 12:33

What if it were not a man, but a boy....a child. They use the toilets too., obviously not in an office, but the way things are going, numerous public toilets are going mixed sex. Would it be ok then?

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Whatwouldscullydo · 04/10/2022 12:35

Actually say mixed sex loos are more dangerous for children. You can't have the gap under the door and if a child locked themselves in you'd never know they were there. They certainly couldn't crawl out the gap

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Whatwouldscullydo · 04/10/2022 12:37

And you'd never see there were 2 of them in there as you cant see the feet. An adult could push a child in amd lock the door and you'd never know.

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ExtraOnions · 04/10/2022 12:40

I prefer the mixed sex, self contained cubicles … in our offices they are lovely big spaces. I hate the ones with gaps at the top, and under the doors - if I want a dump at work, I want to be completely enclosed

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Hibernationsetting · 04/10/2022 12:42

@Whatwouldscullydo do men not fall ill in your world? Do they not care for children either?

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jewishmum · 04/10/2022 12:44

I've cleaned men's toilets and they are disgusting, urine all over the place. I wouldn't want to share with men.

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maddy68 · 04/10/2022 12:45

WillPowerLite · 04/10/2022 12:22

I have never forgotten to lock the door of a public toilet. Ever. I think that is the experience of most women. And likely most men.

I'd say 'he forgot' is the least likely explanation.

There are other explanations, not all of them pervy. But whatever it is, he should be explaining himself to HR and issuing an apology to the OP.

I actually did it last night. The loo was opened on me straight onto the beach. Luckily for my. Blushes I had "finished" and was washing my hands but two mins later I would have been exposed to the world.

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Testina · 04/10/2022 12:48

YABU for not just using the word penis.
How can you hope to express your point of view in a way that people take you seriously, if on an anonymous website you can’t bring yourself to type penis? Ridiculous.

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Simonjt · 04/10/2022 12:48

Like virtually all accessible toilets and changing places in the UK, which oddly no one seems to protest against.

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Whatwouldscullydo · 04/10/2022 12:48

Its women who have the maternity leave. Certainly predominantly fir the first few months its women with the majority of the care for children due to vreast feeding/maternity leave.

Theres also a disturbing number of men who either decide to take their girls into the women's, or offload the care to women because the mens is apparently so disgusting and they refuse to take the kids in the mens toilets.

Of course the thing to do would be to complain to the site manager amd get the mens cleaned up so its fit to house the children but that doesn't seem to happen.much does it.

But thats a whole other issue.

Men Certainly do not need to deal with post partum bleeding and menstruation that require a bit of privacy

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MenaiMna · 04/10/2022 12:49

Moonmelodies · 04/10/2022 12:01

Maybe he struggled to lock the door as he had his lad with him.

He didn't have his lad (child) with him he had "his lad out" slang for his penis was uncovered/in his hand HTH

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lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2022 12:51

Simonjt · 04/10/2022 12:48

Like virtually all accessible toilets and changing places in the UK, which oddly no one seems to protest against.

Accessible toilets do not have shared wash facilities.

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