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To absolutely despise job centre staff?

286 replies

backacge · 03/10/2022 15:23

I receive universal credit to top me up. I am a masters student in a vocational subject that will 100 percent result in a job, I work ten - twelve hours a week, sometimes more and am a single mum. I am trying my best. Over summer I work as often as I can also and make enough that the job centre aren't on my back as I'm earning enough.

Just received a notification that I must attend a work review on Thursday. Number 1 - I have uni that day. Number 2 - what more do they actually want me to do? I am in uni 3 days out the week then the other 2 I am studying. Saturday I work.

I am beyond frustrated. I always find the staff there to be rude and obnoxious and look down their nose at me, even though im probably more qualified than them.

OP posts:
backacge · 03/10/2022 17:47

@Caroffee sorry, your hoping I struggle and fail with my caseloads when I become a social worker? Even though it might have a negative outcome for children and/or vulnerable adults? Gross

OP posts:
Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:51

@funinthesun19

I am afraid genuine claimants don’t get all the help they need. I have two disabled cousins who need round the clock care and they get very little help compared to others who don’t need it

starfishmummy · 03/10/2022 17:51

backacge · 03/10/2022 17:23

Yep social work is what I am doing

For a person who clearly thinks she has superior intelligence the OP clearly has shit problem solving skills if she can't get in touch and rearrange.

HardLanding · 03/10/2022 17:51

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:51

@funinthesun19

I am afraid genuine claimants don’t get all the help they need. I have two disabled cousins who need round the clock care and they get very little help compared to others who don’t need it

You are attacking people whilst being on benefits yourself due to MH issues.

Hilarious.

Trez1510 · 03/10/2022 17:51

Are you likely to be 'despising' service users who 'inconvenience' you when you become a social worker?

Will the level of your 'despising' be directly related to the qualifications of the service user? Minimal despising of, say, a professor and max despising of an illiterate trolley-collector?

Having worked in Social Services for 40+ years, I'm guessing you'll put on a face in placements and your true attitudes will be apparent once you're let of the leash on your own.

Awful attitudes in respect of both the 'despising' (an entire group of people) and 'superior attitude'.

I'm wishing a very big 'Good Luck' to anyone allocated you as a worker in future.

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:52

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HardLanding · 03/10/2022 17:53

Trez1510 · 03/10/2022 17:51

Are you likely to be 'despising' service users who 'inconvenience' you when you become a social worker?

Will the level of your 'despising' be directly related to the qualifications of the service user? Minimal despising of, say, a professor and max despising of an illiterate trolley-collector?

Having worked in Social Services for 40+ years, I'm guessing you'll put on a face in placements and your true attitudes will be apparent once you're let of the leash on your own.

Awful attitudes in respect of both the 'despising' (an entire group of people) and 'superior attitude'.

I'm wishing a very big 'Good Luck' to anyone allocated you as a worker in future.

Same. She will be like the same SW who missed my mothers drug abuse/abuse of me because we lived in a nice big house, had lots of money and are well spoken. Meanwhile, she’ll be coming down like a tonne of bricks on working class DV victims.

Givenuptotally · 03/10/2022 17:53

Jobcentre staff are just doing their job & meanwhile taxpayers are subsidising you, so I think you are very fortunate and need to recognise that

the OP is also a tax payer.

I dont see why you should get UC support to do a masters anyway to be honest

The OP is one person, managing the struggle that is parenting, studying and work.
Her studying will give her a better job at the end.
Then she’ll receive less, or nothing at all,
from the public purse in the medium and long terms. If she doesn’t study, she will be stuck where she is and claiming more.
Which is the better option, for the OP, her child, and the tax payer?

This country and the system is fkd but it’s ok for scrounger’s who have never worked a day in their life and claim sick and pip and dla etc etc

that is truly vile. I’m a single parent with a disabled child and oh my goodness, I work full time! You know exactly where you can stick attitudes like this.

OP, I have been a working single parent for nearly 15 years now. I have genuinely heard it all. People cannot bear single parents managing, let alone getting ahead in life, You haven’t helped yourself, however. Your comments about JC staff are unpleasant and totally unnecessary.

funinthesun19 · 03/10/2022 17:54

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:51

@funinthesun19

I am afraid genuine claimants don’t get all the help they need. I have two disabled cousins who need round the clock care and they get very little help compared to others who don’t need it

I am a genuine claimant, thanks. So is my son.
You need to provide care for someone for 35 hours per week or more in order to qualify for CA, and I more than tick that box.
As for my son, he’s disabled. He qualifies for middle rate care and lower mobility. If you don’t think he’s a genuine claimant then that’s your problem.

falafelqueen · 03/10/2022 17:56

Some of these replies are unbelievable! Either people who’ve never had to sign on (lucky them) or the sort who think you should know your place, be content with crap minimum wage jobs and never try to better your situation!
Good for you for studying OP, and you have every right to claim. I agree most JC staff look down on everyone and are unhelpful, to put it mildly. I had it in a similar situation to you. I only met one nice advisor - that was 15 years ago and he’s probably long since retired!
I do realise JC staff are treated badly and incentivised to be obstructive… the whole system is punitive, it’s crap for everyone involved. Some I dealt with were clearly just sadistic types though. I doubt any decent people could last long working in that toxic environment.
Just remember you’ll only have to deal with them for a short while and it will soon be a distant memory… while they’re probably stuck with their miserable attitudes for life.

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:56

@funinthesun19

At no point did I say everyone who gets pip is a scrounger’s your misquoting me

I am defending people like yourself and saying the system is wrong and you SHOULD GET MORE HELP ffs

HardLanding · 03/10/2022 17:56

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I’m not trolling you.

I agree, it isn’t enough

But you’re attacking a single mother doing a Masters and getting some UC (and trust me, it’s not a lot - my PG loan covered my fees and fuck all else, I had to live off UC whilst doing it, unlike my UG where I also had a maintenance loan and a grant).

Whilst you, yourself, are off work and claim you’ll never go back because of a traumatic event.

Plenty of people who lose children continue to work, because what YOU get didn’t exist when my Grandparents lost a baby to meningitis.

My 19 year old half sister continued to work as an HCA whilst nursing both her Dad and Grandad through terminal cancer and carried on working after they both died within weeks of each other.

Have a word with yourself.

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:57

Have people even read what I said about how the DSS treated me or do you just like taking one misquoted sentence and then attack and gaslight me with no concerns about my anxiety

Theluggage15 · 03/10/2022 17:58

You’re not going to be a great social worker with that attitude. Despising people doing their job? My sister’s a social worker, hope you don’t land in her area, she’s got enough to put up with.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 03/10/2022 17:58

@Andypandy799 I think you need to get off the forum for half an hour, get a nice strong coffee, and then come back later. Have a snickers too. You're not you when you're hungry.

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:58

I paid more than most will in 10 life’s if tax I get pennies to live off now I’m not fit for work.

Some fit and able people fake illness to get sick pay and never have to work I am not saying everyone

Beinganon · 03/10/2022 18:00

Have you tried sending a message stating that you are in ft education? It may be that a manual override just needs to be done if you are a lone parent so the appointment may not be needed.

Meadowbreeze · 03/10/2022 18:00

@Andypandy799 I think you should do some more research on the German benefit system. It's not wise to Google and quote the first line that comes up.
It's interesting you have slated those on PIP and DLA yet you are one of those people.
It's incredibly difficult to get PIP and DLA. I've had claimants with late stage cancer and post stroke disability get rejected. You're quite lucky you got it.
I can understand having some resentment to a system that hasn't looked after you in a capacity you imagined. It sucks and there are many people like you who paid tons in and get very little out but it looks horrible when that manifests into hatred towards others, which is what you're coming across like. I hope you heal.

starfishmummy · 03/10/2022 18:00

Trez1510 · 03/10/2022 17:51

Are you likely to be 'despising' service users who 'inconvenience' you when you become a social worker?

Will the level of your 'despising' be directly related to the qualifications of the service user? Minimal despising of, say, a professor and max despising of an illiterate trolley-collector?

Having worked in Social Services for 40+ years, I'm guessing you'll put on a face in placements and your true attitudes will be apparent once you're let of the leash on your own.

Awful attitudes in respect of both the 'despising' (an entire group of people) and 'superior attitude'.

I'm wishing a very big 'Good Luck' to anyone allocated you as a worker in future.

Well put.

I've been imagining that any clients she has who are on UC are going to suffer. They need a sw who will tell them/help them to work with the benefit system when they don't want to. I can just imagine it "no don't worry the jobcentre staff are all unqualified idiots, you don't need to do whatever, because you are so special the rules don't apply to you".

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 18:01

@WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps Good advice I’ve been up since 4 and not eaten yet 😂

Ps that’s one of my fav George Harrison songs have you seen the YouTube of the tribute concert when his sone plays and just how much he looks like his dad

HardLanding · 03/10/2022 18:02

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 17:57

Have people even read what I said about how the DSS treated me or do you just like taking one misquoted sentence and then attack and gaslight me with no concerns about my anxiety

Yes, you feel the DSS should have treated you with awe and reverence because you were once a millionaire, whereas OP, a single parent who’s studying, deserves to be treated like shit. That’s elitism talking, or delusions of grandeur. Take your pick.

If your anxiety can’t handle a talk forum, I suggested you log off. And saying shit like that really fucks me off, as someone with CPTSD and a repeat script for Benzos, when people try and blame internet randos for their MH issues or use it as a way to shut people down.

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 18:04

@Meadowbreeze i know it wasn’t easy it took 2 years for me.

So in what way was I wrong about Germany?

going to take a wee break as advised as I do not have anger against people but I do towards the system but I can’t change it and like everything in life some people will always abuse it

HardLanding · 03/10/2022 18:05

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 18:04

@Meadowbreeze i know it wasn’t easy it took 2 years for me.

So in what way was I wrong about Germany?

going to take a wee break as advised as I do not have anger against people but I do towards the system but I can’t change it and like everything in life some people will always abuse it

Like you, wanting millions of pounds a year from the tax payer from the age of 31 till death because you owned a successful business? I’ve heard it all now.

Andypandy799 · 03/10/2022 18:06

@HardLanding i stuck up for the op and said the job centre treat people like shit. I worked hard and had a breakdown had nowt to do with the internet why are you gaslighting me? What have I done to upset you

Obviously you don’t believe in humility?

Candymay · 03/10/2022 18:07

backacge · 03/10/2022 17:47

@Caroffee sorry, your hoping I struggle and fail with my caseloads when I become a social worker? Even though it might have a negative outcome for children and/or vulnerable adults? Gross

That’s not what she said.
Do you have the skills for social work? You seem to lack in some important areas. (Comprehension/ empathy)
. Southbank university by any chance?