Why is it worse in the U.K.

[Thatsaturdayfeeling]

I’m British but not in the U.K. at the moment. Where I am, we also have food price increases and petrol was v high for a while, but it’s all not to the extent as the U.K…why is the U.K. in such dire straits compared to other places?

Brexit and 12 years of Tories
Maybe they should introduce a Brexit tax and a Tory tax for all those that voted in favour of Brexit/Tories. Country is totally f**ked because of it.

Because... tories

YABU. Inflation in the UK is currently lower than inflation in the Eurozone. Would you prefer the 17% currently in the Netherlands? Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this country that want to talk it down for political reasons. They concentrate on the bad and ignore the good and that kind of talk is taken as reality, especially by those who are unable to consider the entire situation.

It's not. It's just the UK press don't report how bad it is everywhere else and mn dont believe it either. From what I hear most country is pretty much struggling in different ways at the moment. Glad I don't live in USA, Oz or Switzerland due to prices at the moment.

Inflation in food prices and fuel are indeed widespread but vary greatly even within Europe.

OTOH the one area where the UK is generally very different to many parts of the world is housing costs...

^ This.

Why are people focusing on isolated areas, like food, to argue whether we are or are not worse off than other countries? Last time I looked, we need a variety of things to live a sustainable life and be able to access work to earn money. Does anyone know how the UK is doing compared to the rest of the world in terms of overall cost of living (including accommodation, essential services, food, utilities, working infrastructure etc)? And are other countries having similarly extreme issues with healthcare - including inability to access appointments to start any process towards diagnosis in the first place? Or is the apparent disintegration of the GP service a particular problem for the UK, because other countries don’t use family doctors in the same way as gatekeepers for the rest of the service (unless you turn up in A&E)? Do other countries have equally severe problems with social care, or is the UK also more “advanced” with its problems here?

You genuinely can't even formulate a reply to this level of stupidly and insular thinking.

I hope you are abroad britsabroad and I sincerely hope you stay there, your hate speech isn't welcome here.

Despite what Mumsnet will have you believe, the papers aren't some kind of Pravda, parroting the party line. Some are even left-leaning. No, the papers exist to sell themselves, it's as simple as that. Inducing a panic with clickbait headlines is straight out of the instruction manual.

12 years of tories....

I’ve got an idea. Every time someone pops in and without thinking and/or using poor grammar and says “tories/thatcher/brexit” you have to down a shot.

someone’s going to have to be sober enough to collect the kids though…

Brexit and 12 years of a progressively worse Tory government. And of course the media are hugely responsible for that.

She isn’t stupid though, she’s right. I know the suggestion isn’t possible in reality but it is desirable.

People do not like hearing the truth.

Well said Kissingfrogs25. I voted Tory last time only because I could not vote for Lab/Lib/Green who have all moved so far to the left. It's all very well criticising the Tories, much of it warranted, but doing so is just negative and not constructive. It is merely a moan which solves nothing. If you don't like what a political party is doing, any political party, provide detail of what you think should be done, how much it would cost (or save) and how the funds would be raised. Facts, not feelings and detail not generalisation.

Who the fuck died and put you in charge of what women can or can't say on this thread?

I can smell the desperation of the Tories from here.😂😂😂

It is alarming when people just condense such a complicated picture into two sound bites: Tories and brexit.
It is pitiful if that’s all that can be contributed. Indeed It is also factually incorrect as tens of millions of Labour voters also voted to leave.

The jobs market is very stretched across the whole of Europe - some countries are struggling far more than us. People just instantly blame the government for every last thing even being fully aware of the new Cold War with Russia, energy crisis and war with Ukraine.
Many millions of 50 somethings have retired early post pandemic. So the credit crisis is not a bad thing if it brings their skills and expertise back. Ditto the leaning on cheap credit, fast fashion etc, wasting energy frivolously.
Nothing is universally good or bad.
The black and white thinking seen on this thread is depressing clarus I do wish for more nuanced discussions.

I agree with this. There has been a shift that, I think, started with Covid, where every single thing you read, in every single paper, is negative. It is all hysteria and doom, and the populace buy into it. The sad thing is, it only takes a quick google to show that the UK is still, despite everything, doing pretty well on various measures, from resilience, to debt to GDP, to inflation. We don't do well on health, although we are the only country with a truly universal health system, and on happiness, we are very unhappy. But you know what, perhaps we are unhappy, because we are always told everything is shit and everywhere else is wonderful.

I agree with last couple of posts

Media probably due to rise in digital and buying patterns. Pre digital we were probably more loyal and just bought the same paper, now it’s about attention and click through rates. Plus you need to cut through increased distraction

Covid delivered a model that they realised was more profitable and then continued

It’s hard to get non raging discussion as everyone is reacting to above, sometimes some insightful stuff though

Inflation in the UK is currently lower than inflation in the Eurozone.

ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/14698140/2-30092022-AP-EN.pdf/727d4958-dd57-de9f-9965-99562e1286bf

When I read these threads, I look for the usernames that I know are going to write lucid factual posts. I'll join your political party.

This isn't even worthy of a response.

*I’ve got an idea. Every time someone pops in and without thinking and/or using poor grammar and says “tories/thatcher/brexit” you have to down a shot.

someone’s going to have to be sober enough to collect the kids though…*

This could work post 5pm when the school collection has been ticked.

I suspect that, by the fifth shot, I probably wouldn't care as much either. Double shots for the adjective 'f*ed' and 'thick and racist leave voters'?

Oh yes I forgot about the race card - yes that definitely needs to be there too regardless of the accuracy or the offence it causes to ethnic minorities that voted leave. The mindless assumption that all leavers were white, working class, tory voting thickos - clearly these people are not remotely aware of their own innate racist bias with their lazy offensive stereotypes, I can only hope they are more careful in real life.

@Kissingfrogs25 not a hate speech just stating the truth and some tongue in cheek wishful thinking. You'll be pleased to know I do live abroad and have no intention of coming back as I am thriving in Switzerland. Moved in 2020 for a better quality of life and found it.

Meanwhile my 73 year old mum (who has cancer) has spent the last 24 hours sat in a chair in A&E in hospital in the UK. She was really ill in the night, rang for an ambulance last night in severe pain & was told she would have to wait for at least 12 hours for 1 to turn up. So she got a taxi to hospital. There's no beds. There's no staff either. Took 16 hours to see a doctor. She's been referred to the surgical team, nil by mouth and still no bed free so she's been sitting in a chair for 24 hours and it's unlikely she will get a bed tonight. No hot food either because she's not in a bed. It is a disgrace.

So yeh @Kissingfrogs25 im angry about the state of the country. I'm angry at the Tories. I wonder where all the millions of pounds are that we were going to save the NHS by leaving the EU.

No one could forsee Covid or the Ukraine war but the latest debacle caused by Kwasi and Truss was avoidable. It was a senseless decision that will make millions of peoples lives even more harder than they need to be, after in an incredibly difficult couple of years already.