Would you report both of these staff members

[Hca8]

I’ve recently started work on an acute female ward as a hca. Yesterday night a young woman engaged in a dangerous form of self harm. The alarm was pulled and staff responded. The young woman is on 15 minutes checks. The first staff member said she takes advantage of the fact she’s on 15 minute checks she likes the attention. I’ve found this young woman engaging in the same behaviours on hourly checks so it’s not too so with her level of observation clearly. The second staff member replied to this woman and said he careful what your saying. I would take this to mean the other staff member could say it behind the patients back but not in front of her as he knows she makes complaints. Doi report both of them to our line manager or just her?

The member of staff was from a different ward she doesn’t work on my ward so doesn’t really know the woman.

She didn't say it in front of her, if she needs to vent to another staff member, that's fair enough.

This patient wasn't being poorly treated either.

I’ve seen the same member of staff being very empathetic to another young woman who self harms every time they mention discharge or do something she doesn’t like so I feel it’s very hypocritical of her to target one person as she did

She did say it in front of her the girl was in the bathroom en suite and she was in the bedroom

But self harming can be attention seeking. I used to do it. It was for attention.

Report for what though? You sound very green.

Absolutely nothing to report and with the greatest of respect you are NOT a qualified MH nurse, so leave this kind of thing to the trained professionals.

MH patients frequently indulge in attention seeking behaviour. 2 staff members were discussing it. End of story.

What does green mean? As I said even if people self harm for attention

It was two hca’s they weren’t nurses

Your account appears to change

However you do seem very naive, and inexperienced

Please don't take advice from MN who know nothing. There are people within this setting you can get actual advice from. Please speak with your manager and occupational health. As someone who works in this field I don't feel these comments are appropriate to say in front of a patient but might not warrant a full on complaint. Please explain to your manager your aren't sure if the comments are correct so you wanted her advice before raising it further. Please ensure you don't discuss this with other members of staff because it could get you in trouble. Especially If these comments were made by more senior staff.

I agree.
Probably because she's not getting the replies that she wants.
Next installment will be the staff member screamed it in the patients ear.
You're very inexperienced op, despite your protests. Like I say, wait until you've been doing it a few months. I guarantee your attitude will change.

Thank god someone else agrees. I couldn't believe some of the comments I was reading

There only seems to be one person in this whole scenario who seems to be attention seeking.

Not an hcp but I would discuss with your line manager

She didn't say it in front of the patient according to her post.
Plenty of posters here including myself ( 25 years plus in ) do and have worked in this field, so shush with your ' they know nothing ' attitude.

Seems very cruel to comment on a patient like that in front of them

It wasn't said in front of the patient

She did say it in front of her

It seems to change as in one post the OP says it wasn't said in front of her and in another it was 🤷🏻‍♀️

Their job is literally to give the patients attention.

It's like when people say that about children, so... give them attention then!

Exactly!
Changes to suit the answers.
Which leads me to think it needs to go in the ' stuff that didn't happen ' file.

I think op is saying the original remark WAS in front of the patient (bedroom:en-suite). Remark 2 was said away from the patient

Why do you feel you need to police what your coworkers say and think away from clients? Your just shit disturbing and creating drama - this sounds like a nothing incident. You sound very self-righteous.